An old school fallout,Is it still possible?

[Brazilianpeanutwar]

So hear me out,I've only ever payed fallout 3 (put away your pitchforks and meat cleavers!)

But i've always been fascianted by the look of the first two games (Slightly charicatured characters,a stop motion feel to the animations,top down view in the world)

And i was thinking,could a game with that visual style be made today?
If you used all of the 360/ps3/whatever you play it on graphical power could you make it look good? and more importantly would you play it? Or is the recent fallout 3 and new vegas graphical style too good to change?

This is purely hypothetical,i'd just like to see what you think.

 

[Who Dares Wins]

Of course it could be made (just make the right people do it) but it wouldn't sell good. I'd still play it.

 

[Irridium]

If they could make it control good. The first 2 Fallout games play like absolute ass.

I'd buy it, but I prefer New Vegas's and Fallout 3's gameplay.

 

[Imbechile]

YES, I was just thinking the same thing. Since Fallout is so popular these days, now would be the best time to release a turn-based Fallout.
It would certanly sell good, despite the fact that deep, turn-based RPGs aren't exactly mainstream, but the Fallout franchise has such a big fanbase now.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

It could be made but why would you want to?

The original two Fallout games are over a decade old, and as I hear there have been significant advancements made in the field, the least of which being two whole console generations.

If they were going to make another Fallout, they should at least make an attempt to integrate 14 years of evolution of the systems. Lara Croft: Guardian of Light was isometric top down view, and that looked actually pretty good, and the amount of advances that have made in branching dialogues for RPGs is similarly impressive.

Innovate, don't let nostalgia taint your view of the present.

 

[Brazilianpeanutwar]

If they could make it control good. The first 2 Fallout games play like absolute ass.

I'd buy it, but I prefer New Vegas's and Fallout 3's gameplay.

Agreed,of course it would have to be the first thing they sort out,can't be running in zigzags in a modern videogame now can we?

Keep the silly run though :3

 

[TheDist]

The game could be made, but I get the feeling the turn based isometric style would only appeal to a small number of people, mostly older gamers who remember when that style was all the rage.

The reason I don't think it'll be made is because it would lack mainstreem appeal, unless an indie dev were to somehow get hold of the IP I guess.

I would play it, I loved the original fallout (and f2) I remember going out to buy them on the day they came out. As for the style of f3 and new vegas, while I don't hate them I just never saw what people rave about. To me they feel really average nothing in either blew my mind, not to say they sucked, but they just felt lacking to me.

 

[Brazilianpeanutwar]

It could be made but why would you want to?

The original two Fallout games are over a decade old, and as I hear there have been significant advancements made in the field, the least of which being two whole console generations.

If they were going to make another Fallout, they should at least make an attempt to integrate 14 years of evolution of the systems. Lara Croft: Guardian of Light was isometric top down view, and that looked actually pretty good, and the amount of advances that have made in branching dialogues for RPGs is similarly impressive.

Innovate, don't let nostalgia taint your view of the present.

Umm that's exactly what i was trying to say?

I wasn't saying remake the old games down to the last detail,i'd expect new graphics and control schemes but then who wouldn't?

 

[Megacherv]

Well, Blizzard and Runic Games are making games that (when boiled down) have mechanics from the 90s, and I'm eagerly looking forward to both of them.

So I don't see why not

 

[LostAlone]

I think you might find that the animation was not like that on purpose. Its not a design feature, its just what games used to look like.

Yes, they could do that today. But no, they probably wouldn't. It's as hard to make a game look crappy as good/shiney/whatever in a new age engine (same amount of work anyways) so they aren't gunna spend a single cent makeing a game look like a late nineties hex based rpg just because you kinda like it.

On a more philosophical level, maybe they will make another top-down fallout game. I kinda hope they won't, or that it will be more akin to Tactics than the first two (btw, I liked tactics a whole lot more than the others, so maybe i'm not a standard fallout fan, but meh...). Basically what made the first two games playable at all was because it had a decent sense of humor in an age when there you didn't get much of that in games. Everything else comparable was a D&D clone really, and ALL of them had their share of problems. People kept coming back to fallout because it entertained you enough to make you wanna figure out a way around its flaws (I once got killed by a burst of full auto while standing BEHIND the guy firing).

It'd be impossible to do the same thing over. You'd have to just directly copy it to keep it in the same world, but jokes seldom stay funny for over a decade, and especially if you played originals a lot. I like Fallout 3. It kept the humor in as a side note to the gameplay and that you have to go looking for. It's an easter egg for the nerds, but its still a good game in its own right.

Making a new property to do something similar ? Well thats a possibility, but again it would either be a blatant clone or too different to feel the same.

In general, turn based anything has gone way out of fashion. I'm a lover of turn based anything, and it makes me sad that you can't find much of it anymore, but thats jsut the way it is. The best you can hope for is someone to remake the first games in Fallout 3, or indeed in any other engine. It'd be a fan project, and it would likely never be completed.

 

[Midnight Crossroads]

Maybe a spin-off, but it would alienate a lot of a people playing the game now for the 3D world if Fallout 4 was set in such a way. Bethesda is making its pay from the 3D games. It didn't have a part in the first two.

Blizzard is still using the same sort of top-down view on Diablo 3, and Oblivion is using an old school camera in Dungeon Siege 3.

 

[VaderMan92]

I would play it but it would not sell well among the action shoot em up halo call of duty crowd which unfortunately determines the types of games that mostly get released.

 

[Oxford The Cat]

I'm just throwing this out there because it's related - but I just don't understand the criticism of Fallout 3 and New Vegas (buggy, won't run).


In all the time I've been playing both games, I have never had a crash that wasn't mod related and my fault.

I don't see where all the "it's so buggy" is coming from.
Is it the console versions or something?

Both Fallout 3 and NV played flawlessly for me on PC.

 

[Continuity]

Of course it could be made (just make the right people do it) but it wouldn't sell good. I'd still play it.

And thus the correct answer is: No it could not be made, because everyone knows it wouldn't sell well so the project would never get funding.

However there is something we can all do about this, support indie games that try to buckle the trend, example deadstate being developed by doubleBear productions:

http://www.deadstate.doublebearproductions.com/about/

The Fallout series, much like GTA, has moved into 3D first/third person gameplay. IF it were to return to an isometric POV it would probably cripple itself.


A move back to turn-based combat would be especially damaging. Fallout 1 actually put me to sleep, that's how boring the combat was. I wasn't able to make any significant progress until I I haxed myself into 9001 action points, 9001 bullets and fed the game engine some crack cocaine. Even then the turn-based combat bored me so much I just went to the Vault and got the story that way.



Now I don't think an old-school Fallout is impossible. IMO an old-school Fallout can work just damn fine on the new 3D first/third person model currently in use. Swap out shitty old Gamebryo for something good, say for example Source, then put the same guys in charge of it that made Fallout 1. You will eventually end up with an old-school Fallout game using new-school first/third person real-time combat. And this time it will actually fucking run!

I'm afraid you completely missed the point, the original fallout games are RPG's, not FPS/RPG's like the new ones. That's a completely different genre, so if you came to Fallout expecting action in the combat you were barking up the wrong tree.

Not every game should be action based... think about that for a while.

 

[jpoon]

I would love it if they released an updated version of the original fallouts. They hold a very dear place in my heart!

 

[Brazilianpeanutwar]

I would play it but it would not sell well among the action shoot em up halo call of duty crowd which unfortunately determines the types of games that mostly get released.

I've only ever played fallout 3 (on x-box) but i've never had any problems with it,i don't even have xbox live so i can't get patches or anything like that.

As for new vegas....hmm the people saying how badly buggy it is have put me off (no patches for me,so i'm not spending a load of money on a game that i can't fix)