An online n00b's experience: Team Fortress 2

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Aries_Split

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TOGSolid said:
Ixus Illwrath said:
I love the hell out of this game, but it doesn't even come close to how amazing COD4 is.
COD 4 is good, but Infinity Ward is terrible at glitch fixing, balancing tweaking, etc.
COD 4 has been out for how long now and they still haven't fixed the fully automatic semi-automatics (G3/m14/pistols/etc.) among other issues?

Valve is quick to fix things and pays attention to the community. TF2 is infinitely more polished than COD4 will ever be.

Oh and isn't the Pyro supposed to be Italian?
I hate having the G3 as semi-automatic.

I am a gun freak in real life, and it bugs me that they made the G3 (which is fully automatic mind you) a semi auto.

The same with the m14.
 

ReepNeep

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There were semi-auto M14s issued IRL. The gun was actually more effective IRL when it was limited to semi-auto for the same reason every version of the M16 except the first was limited to 3 round bursts: it encourages aiming rather than spray-and-pray.

The G3 thing pisses me off though. That was one of my favorite guns in the HL mod Firearms. To see it nerfed so... it breaks my heart. Also it's lame sound effects.

Meh. I stopped playing COD4 months ago because of the 'nade spam, poor maps and horrible weapon balance.
 

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Lord Krunk said:
Wait, wait. There's an Escapist TF2 Server? And no-one told me this beforehand?
Well, there's meant to be, but it's dissapeared somehow... apparantly it'll be back up at some point.
 

JakubK666

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Dommyboy said:
TF2 isn't for everybody, which is good because it immediately puts up a small blockade towards the people who are all about solo play and being the MVP.
No, you dummkopf. These people go off to play Sniper,silly-billy. Sure they are helping their team by 1) Eliminating other Snipers 2) Owning Heavies and Medics and Demomen but it's just a side effect.

As for server, we don't need a new one.We could just start a clan and raid empty servers every once in a while.Alternatively we could piss some people off by stacking too.

Also OP, need any advice - feel free to ask.While I'm not a pro at the actual game with Offensive Engie,Offensive Medic and Pyro being my main classes,I've chewed through every game guide and TF2wiki so I know A LOT.
 

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JakubK666 said:
Dommyboy said:
No, you dummkopf. These people go off to play Sniper,silly-billy. Sure they are helping their team by 1) Eliminating other Snipers 2) Owning Heavies and Medics and Demomen but it's just a side effect.

As for server, we don't need a new one.We could just start a clan and raid empty servers every once in a while.Alternatively we could piss some people off by stacking too.

Also OP, need any advice - feel free to ask.While I'm not a pro at the actual game with Offensive Engie,Offensive Medic and Pyro being my main classes,I've chewed through every game guide and TF2wiki so I know A LOT.
Its pretty rare to see a sniper at the top of the scoreboards. Its usually a heavy, medic or demoman in my experience. My favorite thing is burning them with my flamer.

I'd be down for an escapist clan. I'm quite possibly the best medic I've ever seen online. I'm also a pretty good soldier and heavy and my pyro skills are sick, sick I tell you. I can play any of the other classes pretty well if needed.
 

JakubK666

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Just suggested server/clan/gamenights idea on Suggestion thread.Now everybody needs to keep bumping it for Wilson to notice.
 

JakubK666

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wilsonscrazybed said:
JakubK666 said:
Just suggested server/clan/gamenights idea on Suggestion thread.Now everybody needs to keep bumping it for Wilson to notice.
I've noticed.
Good.If anything happens, don't bother informing me since I'll be away for a week starting this Sunday.
 

Anarchemitis

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I thought the Spy was a Spaniard!
Regardless I think I might take up that gaming experience if I can get the cable Internet going again. Even though I'm a bit older than what my mom would tut-tut over my gaming choices, I still don't like blood. But I do hearsay of this "PARTY-Mode".
 

Haliwali

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Good review. My favorite class is the spy. Sometimes I'll get face-raped, but if I'm in my groove I can make Sam Fisher look like a klutz.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
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What the fuck? The spy is god damn French. That's fightin' talk.
Of course he's French, he's never without his Cigarette.
Weird, I always expected the spy to have an upper-class British accent, you know, 'cause of James Bond
 

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gr33ny76 said:
I used to play TFC on PC and now play TF2 on 360 and I have to say that it's the best community I have experienced on xblive. I don't even play grenadespam4, i mean cod4 online anymore - I leave that to my 12 year old son and his squeeky-voiced mates!

However, the community is a 2 way thing and it sometimes it takes a little consideration from oneself, but is worth the effort.

a) Politely greet everyone upon entering the lobby, or "Hi team, who has mics?" if the game is underway
b) Ask who is doing what to get an idea of how you can best contribute yourself
c) Ask how you can help others
d) Or tell the team how you intend to contribute, people may change class to help you!

This can sometimes get a team of strangers working together quite quickly. I've had some fantastic 'team' games going and have made some good friends by the end of it. As you rightly pointed out in your article, people are also very happy to help you with hints n tips. Howevever, if the room stays silent, I can't see the point in playing and i usually find another room.

As my Dad always used to say to me

" Lead, follow or get out the way " Maybe he was referring to tf2 all along!

Nice article/review though!

Anyone who fancies some GMT timezone 'team' games on the 360, feel free to add me!

360GT: gr33ny76
Yes! finally i was finally starting to wonder if anyone at this website even owned the orange box 4 the 360 since most every one here seems to own a super computer able to play Crysis without framerate hiccups.I'd love to play Tf2 with you sometime but unfortunaly my mic broke and the team part has been cut out because of it :(
 

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I've never played this game, but been interested for quite some time now. I think this review, and comments after it may force me into buying it afterall. Great review, thanks for the insight.
 

Fenixius

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It's highly beneficial to one's enjoyment of the game to see if you can get a group of friends going to play it regularly. Even if you don't have a bunch of people nearby who want to play, it's usually easy to find some more vocal players, add them to your Friends list, join their servers, or even find a casual clan.

One thing I've noticed that many people don't do is use their clan's chatroom. Either in the massive clans (like Whirlpool) or in smaller ones, whenever I'm on the clan page checking out whoever sent me an invite, or the group that my friend is in, noone's having a talk. Which is disappointing, because the group I'm in uses the chat all the time, and we find it to be amazingly beneficial to coordination of gameplay and general bonding between members. Highly recommend Steam's community overlay and all features that are involved with it.

Other than that little addition I felt compelled to make, your review was pretty good. I try hard to be helpful when I play, and if someone tells me they're new, great. New people are what keeps the game going strong. Hope to see you keep playing, Serendipity.


Oh, and Heavy's achievement pack will be out soon (hopefully in the next month or two). To date, two classes which noone played (Medic and Pyro) have recieved updates containing 30-35 Achievements, and some weapons which are unlocked once you have 10/15/20 achievements. These weapons aren't "better", but offer drawbacks. For example, the Medic, upon reaching 15 achievements, recieves the Kritzkreig, which replaces the standard Uber, which is 10 seconds of invulnerability, with what I like to call the Kruber, which gives 10 seconds of 100% critical hits (~300% damage). It doesn't give invulnerability, so it's useless against Sentries or in the face of a Pyro, but in the right situations, it's brilliant. Seeing an allied Soldier or Heavy annihilate four to eight players in the space of 10 seconds is an awesome sight to behold, and an amazing boost for whichever team you're on.
 

JakubK666

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Well, my mic broke six months ago, but trust me as long as you have people willing to follow your instructions (aka Friends!) there can still be LOADS of teamwork through the use of chat and voice commands.

I really hope we get that server or clan going.
 

KyleTheAngry

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Nice work mate...that was a great article...

As a Counter Strike player gone TF2 (thankfully), i can safely say the stereotype of the online gamer is a very real thing. Even though CS is a team game, I find it revolves more around the individual experience. CS is a game where one freak can demolish an entire team (if they play their cards right). Their ego through the roof, they rage on anyone with lesser skill.

In TF2 however, no one player can win. It's something of a humbling experience having to rely on team mates to succeed. There's less of the mega elitists and people can be competitive without acting like jerks.

Glad to hear your 1st online gamer experience wasn't ruined by CS players.

(Note: I've met many friendly, helpful and decent CS players...but angry egomaniacs are rampant)
 

JakubK666

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Aww, that's exactly the reason why I don't play CS.It's not my lack of skill but laziness that usually throws me at the bottom of the scoreboard.Getting owned and waiting 5 minutes for respawn =/= fun.
 

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I have found that with the TF2 community if you are going to be abusive you have to be equally funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynhPS4Ahv7o