Anarchists?

[Icarion (aka Stockholm)]

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Those were some good points and like I said I know that it could never ever work. And those are the reasons we dont have vigilantism today. Because it doesn't work unless your Batman

 

[Jamous]

I think it's something only ignorant little punk kids would feel is a good thing, because they feel like rebelling against "the world" and haven't thought it through. Which is why they typically grow out of it as soon as their hormones start settling down.

Pretty much precisely. Anarchy is just rebelling for the sake of rebelling.

No. No it is not. Read back over the thread and you'll find most people telling you, correctly, otherwise.

And read over some Thomas Hobbes and you'll find why they're all wrong. At the end of the day, in an anarchist society, the strong have nothing to lose from preying on the weak. Morality is something that comes with civilization and the social contract.

I've read that Hobbes. I don't like it but I agree. "Nasty Brutish And Short" etc. However, your definition of Anarchy is still wrong. Anarchy is not "just rebelling for the sake of rebelling." As I said, go back over the thread and you'll find better definitions. I'm afraid "those people" describing Anarchy aren't wrong, even if Anarchy can't and won't work any more.

 

[zehydra]

The only form of Anarchy I think possible, would be a form of Anarchy where if political organization started to occur, an outside force would come in and wipe it out.

 

[mechanixis]

I think it's something only ignorant little punk kids would feel is a good thing, because they feel like rebelling against "the world" and haven't thought it through. Which is why they typically grow out of it as soon as their hormones start settling down.

Pretty much precisely. Anarchy is just rebelling for the sake of rebelling.

No. No it is not. Read back over the thread and you'll find most people telling you, correctly, otherwise.

And read over some Thomas Hobbes and you'll find why they're all wrong. At the end of the day, in an anarchist society, the strong have nothing to lose from preying on the weak. Morality is something that comes with civilization and the social contract.

I've read that Hobbes. I don't like it but I agree. "Nasty Brutish And Short" etc. However, your definition of Anarchy is still wrong. Anarchy is not "just rebelling for the sake of rebelling." As I said, go back over the thread and you'll find better definitions. I'm afraid "those people" describing Anarchy aren't wrong, even if Anarchy can't and won't work any more.

Oh, of course I don't literally mean it's rebelling for the sake of rebelling. No one deliberately thinks that they are going to rebel simply to rebel; they always believe it's in pursuit of some kind of truth. But Anarchy is an idea that only a young, impulsive, and independence-hungry mind could find in any way viable or preferable to any other form of government; it's based on a lot of assumptions about human nature that don't hold up to any serious scrutiny.

 

[ToxinArrow]

You want anarchy? Go to Africa, where your wife gets gang-raped while they hack your head off and conscript your children, because your grandmother's tribe has a different name.


Anarchy is a horrible joke that teenagers cling to because "the man like, puts them down, and stuff."

Again, that's not the definition of anarchy. It's meant to be a political ideology, not slaughtering people for being different. It's like how people confuse communism with tyrany and gemocide.

It's not confusing it for something else if that's what actually happens :/

That is what happened, but not necesserily what was meant to happen.

Completely irrelevant. It's like Communism, you can say how great it is in a eprfect society, but guess what? We ain't perfect, so it ain't gonna work.

 

[Jamous]

I think it's something only ignorant little punk kids would feel is a good thing, because they feel like rebelling against "the world" and haven't thought it through. Which is why they typically grow out of it as soon as their hormones start settling down.

Pretty much precisely. Anarchy is just rebelling for the sake of rebelling.

No. No it is not. Read back over the thread and you'll find most people telling you, correctly, otherwise.

And read over some Thomas Hobbes and you'll find why they're all wrong. At the end of the day, in an anarchist society, the strong have nothing to lose from preying on the weak. Morality is something that comes with civilization and the social contract.

I've read that Hobbes. I don't like it but I agree. "Nasty Brutish And Short" etc. However, your definition of Anarchy is still wrong. Anarchy is not "just rebelling for the sake of rebelling." As I said, go back over the thread and you'll find better definitions. I'm afraid "those people" describing Anarchy aren't wrong, even if Anarchy can't and won't work any more.

Oh, of course I don't literally mean it's rebelling for the sake of rebelling. No one deliberately thinks that they are going to rebel simply to rebel; they always believe it's in pursuit of some kind of truth. But Anarchy is an idea that only a young, impulsive, and independence-hungry mind could find in any way viable or preferable to any other form of government; it's based on a lot of assumptions about human nature that don't hold up to any serious scrutiny.

I suppose... I just wish it wasn't that way. *sigh*
But yeah, I can see what you mean, hurt for my pride though it is. "Young, impulsive, and independence-hungry mind"; I'm certainly those things. Oh well. I can still pretend to have valid reason to vent my political rage. Hang on... Usually I do. >_< Fucking bloody Lib Dem lying backstabbing fucks.

 

[Jekken6]

I do not believe Anarchy can work positively, at least for a sustained period of time, simply because of human nature.

 

[Megacherv]

You want anarchy? Go to Africa, where your wife gets gang-raped while they hack your head off and conscript your children, because your grandmother's tribe has a different name.


Anarchy is a horrible joke that teenagers cling to because "the man like, puts them down, and stuff."

Again, that's not the definition of anarchy. It's meant to be a political ideology, not slaughtering people for being different. It's like how people confuse communism with tyrany and gemocide.

It's not confusing it for something else if that's what actually happens :/

That is what happened, but not necesserily what was meant to happen.

Completely irrelevant. It's like Communism, you can say how great it is in a eprfect society, but guess what? We ain't perfect, so it ain't gonna work.

Yes, but still, that doesn't not make it the main idea.

 

[ToxinArrow]

You want anarchy? Go to Africa, where your wife gets gang-raped while they hack your head off and conscript your children, because your grandmother's tribe has a different name.


Anarchy is a horrible joke that teenagers cling to because "the man like, puts them down, and stuff."

Again, that's not the definition of anarchy. It's meant to be a political ideology, not slaughtering people for being different. It's like how people confuse communism with tyrany and gemocide.

It's not confusing it for something else if that's what actually happens :/

That is what happened, but not necesserily what was meant to happen.

Completely irrelevant. It's like Communism, you can say how great it is in a eprfect society, but guess what? We ain't perfect, so it ain't gonna work.

Yes, but still, that doesn't not make it the main idea.

But that's what it is when applied in real life. It doesn't matter what the idea is when it turns entire populations into corpses.

 

[Megacherv]

You want anarchy? Go to Africa, where your wife gets gang-raped while they hack your head off and conscript your children, because your grandmother's tribe has a different name.


Anarchy is a horrible joke that teenagers cling to because "the man like, puts them down, and stuff."

Again, that's not the definition of anarchy. It's meant to be a political ideology, not slaughtering people for being different. It's like how people confuse communism with tyrany and gemocide.

It's not confusing it for something else if that's what actually happens :/

That is what happened, but not necesserily what was meant to happen.

Completely irrelevant. It's like Communism, you can say how great it is in a eprfect society, but guess what? We ain't perfect, so it ain't gonna work.

Yes, but still, that doesn't not make it the main idea.

But that's what it is when applied in real life. It doesn't matter what the idea is when it turns entire populations into corpses.

Yes, I know, I got that, but that's not what I was on about.

And it's not ENTIRE populations, the people who abuse the trust of the others to get their way (the reason why anarchy fucks up) still live.

 

[hudsonzero]

anarchy is born from chaos, anarchy simply means "is with out rulers".

 

[ToxinArrow]

You want anarchy? Go to Africa, where your wife gets gang-raped while they hack your head off and conscript your children, because your grandmother's tribe has a different name.


Anarchy is a horrible joke that teenagers cling to because "the man like, puts them down, and stuff."

Again, that's not the definition of anarchy. It's meant to be a political ideology, not slaughtering people for being different. It's like how people confuse communism with tyrany and gemocide.

It's not confusing it for something else if that's what actually happens :/

That is what happened, but not necesserily what was meant to happen.

Completely irrelevant. It's like Communism, you can say how great it is in a eprfect society, but guess what? We ain't perfect, so it ain't gonna work.

Yes, but still, that doesn't not make it the main idea.

But that's what it is when applied in real life. It doesn't matter what the idea is when it turns entire populations into corpses.

Yes, I know, I got that, but that's not what I was on about.

And it's not ENTIRE populations, the people who abuse the trust of the others to get their way (the reason why anarchy fucks up) still live.

My mistake. haven't slept well lately. What was your intent?

 

[Snake Plissken]

Anarcho-Christians. Tee Hee. ...riiiiiiight.

 

[Megacherv]

You want anarchy? Go to Africa, where your wife gets gang-raped while they hack your head off and conscript your children, because your grandmother's tribe has a different name.


Anarchy is a horrible joke that teenagers cling to because "the man like, puts them down, and stuff."

Again, that's not the definition of anarchy. It's meant to be a political ideology, not slaughtering people for being different. It's like how people confuse communism with tyrany and gemocide.

It's not confusing it for something else if that's what actually happens :/

That is what happened, but not necesserily what was meant to happen.

Completely irrelevant. It's like Communism, you can say how great it is in a eprfect society, but guess what? We ain't perfect, so it ain't gonna work.

Yes, but still, that doesn't not make it the main idea.

But that's what it is when applied in real life. It doesn't matter what the idea is when it turns entire populations into corpses.

Yes, I know, I got that, but that's not what I was on about.

And it's not ENTIRE populations, the people who abuse the trust of the others to get their way (the reason why anarchy fucks up) still live.

My mistake. haven't slept well lately. What was your intent?

I have no fucking clue.

 

[BioHazardMan]

Anarchy is the government and philosophy of fools. In my opinion, the worst part would be lack of federal regulation. Sure too much is a bad thing, but then asshats would be able to set wages at ten cents an hour and sell things that are dangerous to everyone else.

 

[MoganFreeman]

Real anarchists don't have internet connections.