And just when I was being to think the police couldn't get anymore ridiculous.

[ace_of_something]

tehweave $200 is cheaper than what it would've cost to hit a cop and paralyize him then damage someone else's car and possible hurt them too.
Fine like that are ment to change your behavior. Did it?

sorry my quote button isn't working and I'm not that good on escapists tags.

 

[Hedberger]

No, it doesn't become the law just because some random officer says so, but because some random officer says so, and then gives you a ticket for it! It was probably the law to begin with. But your still missing the point, why create conflict? all she had to do was hold the rail. It not like they asked her to stirp off or anything. By holding onto the rail she lost absolutely nothing and helped the officer in their job. But instead she chose to create a conflict she could easily have avoided and screwed up both hers and the officers day most likely.

Or maybe she just would've helped them to a laugh. I hardly belive that it is punishable to not hold the banister. It sounds more plausible that the cops just wanted some fun at the expense of some random citizen. The met-cops from HL2 anyone?

 

[The Great JT]

As if I needed another reason to think the police are fucking morons.

 

[ffxfriek]

wow thats ubber messed up.

 

[chrisbernardi]

http://arbroath.blogspot.com/2009/05/woman-fined-for-riding-escalator.html

And I thought this sort of thing only happened in Europe.

ok but if the police are telling her to be careful and she freaks out then I don't think they can be blamed, sounds like she had it coming

 

[tb.]

Because it perfectly plausible that the people who protect our societies, and literally risk there lives every day to deal with everyone else's shit would get a laugh out of some random person holding a banister because you once saw something in a video game? Hmm yer now I think about it that's way more plausible than the fact they were just doing their job when she sttarted screaming abuse at them because they told her to be careful.

 

[Travdelosmuertos]

No, it doesn't become the law just because some random officer says so, but because some random officer says so, and then gives you a ticket for it! It was probably the law to begin with. But your still missing the point, why create conflict? all she had to do was hold the rail. It not like they asked her to stirp off or anything. By holding onto the rail she lost absolutely nothing and helped the officer in their job. But instead she chose to create a conflict she could easily have avoided and screwed up both hers and the officers day most likely.

Because the police are there to serve YOU, not the other way around. The moment you start giving in to bullshit power trips like that is the moment your country will take one step closer to becoming a police state. You do something like hold on to a handrail for some asshole cop and the next time he orders someone to do something it will be more severe, until they start demanding people to just what you said, strip.

 

[Peanut Butter]

No, it doesn't become the law just because some random officer says so, but because some random officer says so, and then gives you a ticket for it! It was probably the law to begin with. But your still missing the point, why create conflict? all she had to do was hold the rail. It not like they asked her to stirp off or anything. By holding onto the rail she lost absolutely nothing and helped the officer in their job. But instead she chose to create a conflict she could easily have avoided and screwed up both hers and the officers day most likely.

Or maybe she just would've helped them to a laugh. I hardly belive that it is punishable to not hold the banister. It sounds more plausible that the cops just wanted some fun at the expense of some random citizen. The met-cops from HL2 anyone?

yeah you see what youve done there is confuse reality with Half-life a common misconception i call Gordonfreemanism, shit aint like it is in the movies and games u no, not every authority is corrupt and power hungry and must be overthrown by you: the nerd who im sure will get the girl in the end...really. honestly why dont u walk around in power armour with a crowbar, christ sake

 

[Thanatos34]

Wow, just wow.

This is absolutely ridiculous, has anyone looked up to see if this is an actual law?

 

[Hedberger]

Because it perfectly plausible that the people who protect our societies, and literally risk there lives every day to deal with everyone else's shit would get a laugh out of some random person holding a banister because you once saw something in a video game? Hmm yer now I think about it that's way more plausible than the fact they were just doing their job when she sttarted screaming abuse at them because they told her to be careful.

I didn't say that they did it because they saw it in a videogame it was just a comparison. But the cops getting a kick out of messing with people just because they can is not news by a long shot. Even if we accept that she was SHOUTING and not talking loudly, because it was in a noisy public space, it's still not proper procedure to handcuff them and fine them just for that. If you can't take a bit verbal abuse without resorting to violence you can't expect to become a cop. It like expecting to not get shot during military service.

 

[tb.]

No, it doesn't become the law just because some random officer says so, but because some random officer says so, and then gives you a ticket for it! It was probably the law to begin with. But your still missing the point, why create conflict? all she had to do was hold the rail. It not like they asked her to stirp off or anything. By holding onto the rail she lost absolutely nothing and helped the officer in their job. But instead she chose to create a conflict she could easily have avoided and screwed up both hers and the officers day most likely.

Because the police are there to serve YOU, not the other way around. The moment you start giving in to bullshit power trips like that is the moment your country will take one step closer to becoming a police state. You do something like hold on to a handrail for some asshole cop and the next time he orders someone to do something it will be more severe, until they start demanding people to just what you said, strip.

The police are not there to serve you, they are there to serve the state and country and the laws that they make. Seeing as this is a democray they represent the wills of the majority of the population if you dont like it then go ahead and rebel, enjoy your life in prison with the satasfaction that noone gives a crap about your cursade for resisting against the police for no reason. Alternativle leave the country and go somewhere like Iraq where everyone fights against the power, youll have fun there im sure. Ultimatly the point im making is that the law is nesscary and so are the people who enforce it, as a result of this you might get screwed over sometimes but just like mommy tells you, life isnt fair and you just have to cop it sweet sometimes and get on with it.

 

[Xtr3me_O]

This is just getting out of hand now.
Wtf is the world coming to?

 

[Captain Pancake]

What do you expect, in a country where you can get arrested for crossing the road at the wrong time?

Still, at least your police don't have to wear silly hats...

 

[curlycrouton]

It seems many of you haven't read the full article.

Laval police Const. Nathalie Lorrain said that Kosoian became aggressive when she was asked to hold the handrail. "When they told her to be careful, she turned around and she started screaming at them, telling them she wouldn't use the rail," said Lorrain.

Though she was fined for not holding the handrail, that's only because they had to. They couldn't fine her for one crime and then let her off for another, it'd be double standards. Police wouldn't normally detain someone for not holding onto the handrail.

This woman was arrested and fined because she was "screaming" at the police, which is well within the rights of the law.

However, a law allowing officers to fine people for failing to use a handrail on an escalator is ridiculous, though I suspect it's very rarely put into action.

 

[Hedberger]

No, it doesn't become the law just because some random officer says so, but because some random officer says so, and then gives you a ticket for it! It was probably the law to begin with. But your still missing the point, why create conflict? all she had to do was hold the rail. It not like they asked her to stirp off or anything. By holding onto the rail she lost absolutely nothing and helped the officer in their job. But instead she chose to create a conflict she could easily have avoided and screwed up both hers and the officers day most likely.

Or maybe she just would've helped them to a laugh. I hardly belive that it is punishable to not hold the banister. It sounds more plausible that the cops just wanted some fun at the expense of some random citizen. The met-cops from HL2 anyone?

yeah you see what youve done there is confuse reality with Half-life a common misconception i call Gordonfreemanism, shit aint like it is in the movies and games u no, not every authority is corrupt and power hungry and must be overthrown by you: the nerd who im sure will get the girl in the end...really. honestly why dont u walk around in power armour with a crowbar, christ sake

I'm not saying all are like that but i know some of them are. Maybe the HL2 metaphor was a bit over the top but i wanted to illustrate what i mean in way that most people on a gaming forum will understand. The way i interpret the interview she was simply refusing to hold on to the bannister and when the cops told her to do so she refused rudely. Their response was to handcuff and fine her. The reason i belive the cops was in it for a laugh is her reaction. I think most people would respond rudely if someone smugly told you to "hold on to the bannister or we'll 'cuff you and put you away" especially if you're in a hurry. If they said it in a calm voice i doubt that they would've gotten that kind of reaction. She wasn't neccesarily shouting either. Maybe she was talking loudly because it was in a noisy public space.

 

[Rynozeros]

It's an officers job to uphold the the law, even the petty stuff. Laws are put in place for a reason, and holding onto the rail is a matter of health and safety, not just her safety but other using the escalator.

Imagine there was a little kid at the bottom, and she fell after refusing the officers request to hold on to the hand rail, and she landed on the kid and killed them. Now she could be sentenced for manslaughter, which is a damn side worse than a $420 fine.

She was just selfish and completely deserved the fine. There was no need to not only ignore the simple request but also to hassle the officers, who are doing there jobs.

 

[Crash486]

tehweave $200 is cheaper than what it would've cost to hit a cop and paralyize him then damage someone else's car and possible hurt them too.
Fine like that are ment to change your behavior. Did it?

sorry my quote button isn't working and I'm not that good on escapists tags.

You're pretty defensive in all the posts you make, I can only assume you're probably a cop, in which case that's great for you and I hope you're a good one. It seems to me that the police officer in question here was abusing his power. People shouldn't have to kiss your boots to avoid being handcuffed and fined, that's a little fascist don't you think? If I'm standing on an escalator and some bumpkin goes, "you might want to hold the hand rail" I'm within my rights to tell him to f*ck off and mind his own business. If that someone happens to be a cop I get handcuffed and fined for as many bogus charges as he feels like giving me. That's called fascism.

I've got news for you, this is not the only example of police brutality/incompetence out there, in fact it's one of the lesser examples. Cops wrongfully kill/injure/arrest people all the time, it's not a rare happening. You give someone a gun and a uniform and the ability to arrest/beat/shoot anyone who doesn't do what you tell them to do when you tell them to do it, you're just asking for trouble, and that's exactly what we have. I've met far more asshole, self serving, power tripping cops than I have righteous and compassionate ones. I tell you one thing, if my ass was in trouble I don't think I'd be relying on my local law enforcement officers to get me out of it.

It's an officers job to uphold the the law, even the petty stuff. Laws are put in place for a reason, and holding onto the rail is a matter of health and safety, not just her safety but other using the escalator.

Imagine there was a little kid at the bottom, and she fell after refusing the officers request to hold on to the hand rail, and she landed on the kid and killed them. Now she could be sentenced for manslaughter, which is a damn side worse than a $420 fine.

She was just selfish and completely deserved the fine. There was no need to not only ignore the simple request but also to hassle the officers, who are doing there jobs.

Oh totally, imagine if the escalator was really made of hot lava, and the only way to keep the escalator from incinerating everyone on it was to hold on to the hand rail at all times. THEN THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE SHE WOULD HAVE MURDERED! What's with these what-if scenarios? They're not relevant to the situation at all. You can "what if" anything to make it sound worse than it actually is, but when it comes down to it she got cited for not placing her hand several inches to the right when someone told her to. If you don't see that as slightly wrong, then perhaps you'd be a great canidate to live in a facist dictatorship. Might I suggest North Korea, or possibly cuba?

 

[Barky13]

Wait a minute. Escalators have handrails?