And now I just dont know anymore. Bus monitor gets harassed.

[The Great JT]

And now that I am no longer part of that age, I vote we send all children who do things like this to a gulag. And beat them! Beat the sass and horribleness right out of them! Do it to them now so they won't think it's acceptable!

 

[ShadowsofHope]

I really hate this current generation that is growing up. They are mostly self entitled little shits. This though this is just down right disgusting.


There is also an Indiegogo going to give her a vaction and has already raised 100k of the wanted 5k.

http://www.indiegogo.com/loveforkarenhklein

As for discussion value what would you do if you were the parents to any of the kids involved.

And as the previous generation once decided all children were "entitled little shits", the next generation shall too! ..And the next one, and the next one, and eventually every child in the world or will be ever be born shall forever be known as "an entitled little shit".

..Or we could recognize these particular children as being bad eggs, and not lump everyone into the same attitude as these ones, therefore creating unnecessary ire with the others and antagonizing said others from your side.

That said, that is downright awful. I know how that was like, considering I was the butt of many an abuse throughout my school years. But I also know there was plenty of good people in that batch too.

 

[Jolly Co-operator]

That was kind of a tough video to watch all the way through. Those kids definitely need to be disciplined. I always feel bad for the teachers at my school when they have to deal with the collective bullshit of the problem students, but this was on a completely different level.

I feel very bad for this woman, but I think the amount of money that has been raised for the fundraiser is a bit of an overreaction. I respect the compassion behind the fundraiser, but if people are going to be donating money, there are plenty of worthier causes.

I hope this lady receives the most sincere of apologies, and I hope that very severe punishment is administered by both the school and the parents.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

I'd just like to point out how there are a lot of people who are taking personal offense to the OP's "The current generation is full of self-entitled little shits" comment and decided to follow up on it by essentially saying something to the effect of "Well, screw you too, buddy!"

What I find funny is in the 60-something comments in this thread, nobody has actually garnered a defense on how the current generation isn't full of self-entitled little shits.

Make your case first, guys. Just a thought.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

It's her job, that shit comes with the territory and if she has thin skin she should let someone tougher take the gig.

Also from my experience as a kids, kids tend to only be disrespectful towards the adults that act authoritarian and/or treat them as kids. We all know those adults who we as kids never disrespected because they were cool to us, so chances are they didn't something she didn't like and she didn't handle it in a way that would earn her their respect.

I remember one particular guard was such a prick, we all called him names like "Turtle" and "Franklin" because he resembled a turtle if it became human. Mind you at the same time, there was a janitor called cowboy we all loved because he a badass moustache and always wore a cowboy hat for some reason. Another sercurity guard we liked because we'd flip him off and he'd flip us off right back.

Kids are remarkably easy to manipulate, it's all about how you go about doing it. If you act like a "adult" and talk down to them your gonna get shit flung your way... Can't blame the kids, fuckers aren't even allowed to listen to their own ipod during their fucking lunch. Class, yeah I understand. Even the hallways to a lesser extent. But during your lunch period? We were always told it was because we were suppose to socialize but what if we didn't want to socialize?

 

[Dastardly]

Some kids, some people even, are pretty nasty to other people. That's just the way things are and the way they have always been, things have not suddenly degenerated. If anything they're getting better.

Here's where I would agree and disagree:

AGREE: None of these behaviors are new. In the kablillion years we've been on this planet, kids haven't changed a bit. They're tiny humans with no Asshole Filter, and they are the most selfish creatures in existence. That hasn't changed, nor will it.

DISAGREE: What has changed is the parental and public reaction to this kind of behavior. While kids haven't changed, parents have changed a lot. Now more than ever, "armchair shrink" parents are making excuses for their kids by quoting quasi-scientific articles they've read.

With more and more kids having constant access to the internet, they're able to get up to a lot more trouble unsupervised, and they're fueled by the promise of an instant and relatively large audience. Couple that with their natural desire for attention and historically poor impulse control, and you can see how it might be a problem that the speed of information has vastly exceeded the maturity of the people accessing it.

(This has a flip-side, too. We're more aware of bullying, etc., than we used to be, so there's occasionally a faster and stronger response when it happens. So what we have is the same pendulum, just swinging much farther in both directions.)

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Also apparently the youtube video posted the kids names online.

Like hey man, who the hell does this guy think he is? Anderson Cooper? Fucking Batman? You want to get the kid in trouble go to the fucking principal with your stupid video and let them handle it, don't broadcast it out to the fucking world and let the shit these kids did at 15 follow them the rest of their lives ya fucking jerk.

 

[Dastardly]

It's her job, that shit comes with the territory and if she has thin skin she should let someone tougher take the gig.

No, it doesn't come with the territory. She's there as a monitor to make sure no one is doing anything unsafe on the bus, not to endure taunts from little piss-heads. Just because we might "expect" that kind of shit from kids doesn't mean we excuse it.

Also from my experience as a kids, kids tend to only be disrespectful towards the adults that act authoritarian and/or treat them as kids.

Sorry, but there isn't even the scent of reality anywhere on this statement. Kids aren't known for being incredibly rational in their value judgments of other human beings. What you've basically put forth is that kids are going to like adults who let them do whatever they want, but that's just not how it works.

Teachers, parents, they're here to make sure kids are getting and doing what they need, which occasionally means getting in the way of what those kids want. And the kids? Yeah, they'll be unhappy and throw little tantrums about it, because they are immature. And while we understand that they are, in fact, immature, that doesn't mean we should validate that kind of behavior.

Instead, the kids need to grow the hell up.

Can't blame the kids, fuckers aren't even allowed to listen to their own ipod during their fucking lunch. Class, yeah I understand. Even the hallways to a lesser extent. But during your lunch period? We were always told it was because we were suppose to socialize but what if we didn't want to socialize?

And there's my point: Just because a kid is old enough to have an opinion doesn't mean the kid has Clue #1 about what is good for them in the long run. A kid might want to sit and be anti-social, but that's not necessarily good for them. A kid might want to eat nothing but Twinkies every day, too. Should we let them, since they know so much?

(Not that I agree with a school policy about not having mp3 players during free time. As a teacher, I can tell you that disallowing the device isn't actively encouraging kids to be social, so it's not worth making an issue of it. But I'm qualified to make a judgment like that, while a teenager is not.)

 

[Dastardly]

Because punishment for the sake of simply making a kid who misbehaved feel bad isn't worth a fucking damn.

Actually, I have disagree on this one point.

"Feeling bad" for what you did wrong is absolutely critical to the development of the empathy you trumpeted earlier in your post. Guilt is the cornerstone of remorse, and remorse is one of the foundational building blocks of empathy -- it's often the first and most powerful sign that we, as developing people, are aware of and considering the feelings of others.

If we don't feel bad for the things we do wrong, we don't really ever register them as wrong. Which means we don't stop doing them. And it certainly means we don't learn to judge the impact of our actions on others before doing them.

In fact, there are plenty of folks in the field of developmental psychology who believe we're letting too many kids go for too long without developing that sense of remorse, which really should begin in pre-verbal children. As a result, we're handicapping their ability to develop empathy. In essence, we are raising quasi-sociopaths.

 

[BathorysGraveland]

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And I think that may well be worse than the actions the kids themselves committed. Sure, they're little pricks and need to be disciplined for that crap, but a little verbal abuse does not warrant ruining their entire fucking lives. They need to be taught a lesson in respect and tolerance, not be completely broken down. Jesus fucking Christ, internet vigilantism is the worst kind.

 

[GistoftheFist]

That wasn't very nice of them but I'm finding it hard to care considering she's getting over a hundred thousand dollars for enduring ten minutes of bullying. Yo world, where's my fucking money?

Ditto. All I could offer you right now is a handful of couch change and a half-empty bag of Cheezits.

 

[MalkavianLunatic]

I tried to watch the video, but I couldn't even make it through the first two minutes before outright rage set in. Rage at those idiotic little monsters and rage at their failures of parents. Things like that strike a nerve with me; I can't tolerate anyone who would bully someone else like that, because that's what it is: bullying. I don't care if they're kids either. They deserve to be slapped and, if they'd been my kids, I'd be bringing out the belt.

I'm pretty sure that someone may cry foul for the belt comment, and that's totally their right to do so, but when I was their age, if I treated Anyone that badly, I wouldn't be sitting comfortably for a month. But you know what? I learned from things like that and looking back, I'm a better person for it.

Parents these days, though-- not all of them, thankfully; some are actually behaving like parents instead of their kids' best buddy-- seem to think that it's perfectly fine to allow 'precious snowflake' to do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whoever they want. Spankings are now called 'abuse' and there doesn't seem to be any sense of discipline at all. Something like that isn't 'kids being kids' and I think the parents deserve a good slap themselves for letting their kids become the little monsters in that video. I mean, hell, there have been times when I've been outright cussed out by some little punkass kid.

I hope karma catches those little brats right in the teeth and teaches them that bullying others is intolerable. Hell, I hope that when they're older, if they're still walking around thinking they can do whatever they want without consequence, someone else treats them as badly as they treated that woman.

Sorry for the rant, and it's only my opinion, but yeah... crap like that strikes a really big nerve for me.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

It's her job, that shit comes with the territory and if she has thin skin she should let someone tougher take the gig.

No, it doesn't come with the territory. She's there as a monitor to make sure no one is doing anything unsafe on the bus, not to endure taunts from little piss-heads. Just because we might "expect" that kind of shit from kids doesn't mean we excuse it.

Also from my experience as a kids, kids tend to only be disrespectful towards the adults that act authoritarian and/or treat them as kids.

Sorry, but there isn't even the scent of reality anywhere on this statement. Kids aren't known for being incredibly rational in their value judgments of other human beings. What you've basically put forth is that kids are going to like adults who let them do whatever they want, but that's just not how it works.

Teachers, parents, they're here to make sure kids are getting and doing what they need, which occasionally means getting in the way of what those kids want. And the kids? Yeah, they'll be unhappy and throw little tantrums about it, because they are immature. And while we understand that they are, in fact, immature, that doesn't mean we should validate that kind of behavior.

Instead, the kids need to grow the hell up.

Can't blame the kids, fuckers aren't even allowed to listen to their own ipod during their fucking lunch. Class, yeah I understand. Even the hallways to a lesser extent. But during your lunch period? We were always told it was because we were suppose to socialize but what if we didn't want to socialize?

And there's my point: Just because a kid is old enough to have an opinion doesn't mean the kid has Clue #1 about what is good for them in the long run. A kid might want to sit and be anti-social, but that's not necessarily good for them. A kid might want to eat nothing but Twinkies every day, too. Should we let them, since they know so much?

(Not that I agree with a school policy about not having mp3 players during free time. As a teacher, I can tell you that disallowing the device isn't actively encouraging kids to be social, so it's not worth making an issue of it. But I'm qualified to make a judgment like that, while a teenager is not.)

For fucks sake, don't be one of those folks that dissects and argument bit by bit. Just quote what I wrote and write a response underneath. It's fucking annoying. (not an attack at you sir, I just hate that posting style.)

*rolls eyes* If I become a cop, getting shot out and hearing cries of "FUCK THA POLICE" comes with the territory. If I choose to be soldier, taking someones life comes with the territory. If I'm watching little kids, getting called juvenile names comes with that territory. So no, you're wrong.

Kids are just people. Clearly you've never worked in retail or security (or in a nursing home) and have had to deal with costumers that don't get their way cause yeah, adults act out in the same way too. Treat people like people, yeah the authorities job is to give these kids what they need rather then what they want, but it's easier to get kids (and people in general) to do what you want them to do when you grease the wheels a bit and don't be a hardass. I always took direction better from the people that assured me that they where just doing their jobs to earn their paychecks then the jerks that would stare down at me from their position of inscrutable power and say they were right simply because school policy said though.

Dude I was 18 in my senior year of high school. Legally old enough to smoke, have sex, and be drafted into the war. If I committed murder at that age, I'd be tried as an adult. Who is the school/faculty/anyone to say that at that point that I don't have the right to listen to my ipod during my free period?

I'll even stand to say, a lot of the faculty bring this kind of derelict behavior on themselves because they treat kids as less than human. I once got into a heated argument when I was brought to the main office and was being forcibly being given detention for cutting a class that I didn't cut. It was bullshit, I was properly signed out and some fuckhead didn't do the paperwork right. I argued this point and asked to call my mom, and I was told that this wasn't a trial and that I was going to get detention regardless. I literally had to cause a scene and force them to check with the attendance office and even after being proven I was right the fucking **** handling it didn't have the proper fucking courtesy to apologize... Why? Cause in the mind of all these teachers and principals the kids are never in a position where they're actually right. #RantOver

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Would like to know age of OP? For all I know, you're the generation now growing up below me, which as I now understand it gives me total right to call you a self entitled little shit.

Or maybe the older generation will always look down on the younger generation, like the parents in the 40s thinking Elvis would corrupt their youth, or parents in the 50s thinking black people making music would lead to America's downfal, or how parents in the 60s thought that drugs and free love would lead to an unfocused generation, or how parents in the 70s who were children in the 50s thought that the debauchery of rock and roll proved that while it was wholesome when Elvis did it, it had been taken too far, or how parents in the 80s who were children in the 60s thought that society was too materialistic now and their children had no concept of hardship.

Or maybe how parents in the 90s who were children in the 70s (seeing a pattern maybe) thought that the lack of any significant social change meant their children would grow up entitled, or how parents in the 00s who were children in the 80s think that the rapid expansion of the internet society and videogaming is going to corrupt the youth and oh look we've come full circle.

In 20-30 years I can all but guarentee you that the children in that video, and any other children being accused of being involved in whatever the current downfall of society is now, will be lamenting how the children of 2022 are growing up as entitled little shits.

Every single generation there have been bad eggs who make the majority look bad, and every generation there have been adults and parents who have overreacted spectacularly, only to look ridiculous when the generation they are criticising grows up and starts attacking their own children. The only way to look not like a nostalgic conservative who can't read history? Try and remember what you were like as a child, and all of the horrible things you did, and think twice before you throw the first stone.

 

[martyrdrebel27]

Any chance someone can give me the "highlights?" I'd like to get pissed off and make jokes about youths but I'm not able to watch youtube videos at work.

Kids in bus make fun of fat old lady. America all pissed off.

In other news, five people shot dead today, ten died from not being able to afford healthcare, Americans don't care. Just another day in Hypocritistan.

As for discussion value what would you do if you were the parents to any of the kids involved.

Compliment them on their ability to tell fat people from thin ones? Seriously, people expect to overeat every day untill they get huge and never hear a word about it?

Yes, it's pretty rude, but everybody responding above here is heavily overreacting.

Also it's kind of ironic to see internet trolls do exactly the same to kids who at least have the balls to troll people to their face. Hypocrisy much?

i followed your point and even halfly agreed, right up until you starting in on the "overeating". I'm happy that you were blessed with a god-like metabolism, but not all of us were. I seriously hardly eat (i don't starve myself, i just don't have much of an appetite.) and i'm overweight. some people have health issues they can't control. you have no fucking evidence that this woman is an overeater. i'm not saying she's not, but who the fuck are you to just assume she is? as much as your first few lines showed some sort of better insight into the REAL problems in America, your next few lines show that you're one of the people perpetrating those same problems. you're ignorant and presumptious and arrogant.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

There are people in my life who genuinely can't wrap their heads around why I don't want children.

To those people... This is why! This is children!