I don't know the game but I don't pre-order most games because I feel like the companies are trying to bribe me to put money on them. If their game is good why the handouts? These things are already on the disks in alot of cases or were suppose to be in the games anyway and just taken out and offered as pre-order goodies. The few times I've broken my rule on the issue the games turned out to be disappointing or awful. I get why the commenter is like he is but there are other reasons folks don't pre-order its not always to hold hostage his money cuz no freebies.
And people wonder why we have the term "gamer entitlement"?
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So... What exactly did he do wrong? He's not obligated to pre-order the game if he doesn't want to. He's waiting for the full game to come out so he can see if the entire game is as good as the bit he played at the con, or if there's any game-breaking bugs, or something else I haven't thought of.
It's not like the devs are losing money, unless the game comes out and isn't any good, in which case it was a poor choice to pre-order it.
It's not like the devs are losing money, unless the game comes out and isn't any good, in which case it was a poor choice to pre-order it.
Exactly, because you don't owe the company a cent. You are not obligated to buy their product and when you do, they are obligated to provide the product or service. It's like pre-ordering a new menu item at a restaurant days in advance. It is not reserving the seat (which is free) it is reserving the meal. When you get there and see others are enjoying it at the same price that you paid, you're not getting ripped off, but why bother spending the money beforehand in the first place? What guarantee do you have that it will even taste great? What if it is terrible? What if they drop the price of the meal a few days after you've been there?senordesol said:
While you don't HAVE to pre-order a game, it is not in the company's interest to offer you no incentive for giving them money before you've gotten your product. Is it entitlement to expect the company to give you more for blindly handing over your cash? Not if, as a consumer, you're trying to get more bang for your buck. There is nothing wrong with being savvy with your money or even requesting incentives. If they don't want to give it to you, you don't have to give them your cash. Heck, bartering requires some haggling. If they want my money, they are going to have to earn it.
So-called gamer entitlement makes the assumption that gamers actually owe the company money for their hard work when we are not obligated to give them a cent. This is actually the company feeling entitled to our cash WITHOUT actually providing a product or service. If you're looking for entitlement, there it is, staring you in the face, but it's not coming from gamers - it's coming from developers.
It is not entitlement when you are A. Giving them something (money) for what they're providing. B. Requesting they sweeten the deal (negotiating) or C. You don't owe the developer a cent and you don't feel the need to give them any money no matter how much they complain that you are entitled.
Um... how is that entitlement? Yeah, I know that this is becoming an echo chamber at this point, but I just don't see the issue here. One guy wondered what possible reason people had to actually pre-order Transistor over just waiting until release, since all it does is increase the risk and provide nothing in return. Pre-ordering is risky as all fuck, even from devs that you trust or games that are looking good pre-release (hellooo A:CM, Duke Nukem, Diablo 3, and SimCity!), so it makes sense that as a customer he'd ask a question like that. How is that entitlement, and more importantly how is that a bad thing at all?
Captcha: "BEEN THERE"
Captcha: "BEEN THERE"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the game that, even though Bastion was a commercial success, its developers said would not be coming to the 360? If that's the case, I'm not getting it; they're closing off a big potential cash base with that decision.
captcha: Workshops. Yes, maybe game developers need to have more of those.
captcha: Workshops. Yes, maybe game developers need to have more of those.
First of all, thanks for introducing me to that game. Looks interesting and I might get it later on (I'll wait for reviews though).
Second, There's no reason to pre-order any game if there's no discount or anything extra. I don't see what makes that guy entitled.
Also, I think many games are good but not worth more than $5. For example, FTL is one of my favorites, but I wouldn't recommend anyone spend more than $5 to get it.
Second, There's no reason to pre-order any game if there's no discount or anything extra. I don't see what makes that guy entitled.
Also, I think many games are good but not worth more than $5. For example, FTL is one of my favorites, but I wouldn't recommend anyone spend more than $5 to get it.
And here I am still wondering why we have this term. I don't think it has ever been used correctly.
Seems to me if there is "entitlement" going on here it's coming from the company. Expecting people to not only buy your product before there are any reviews that can tell them whether or not the game is a mess but also pay long before they'll be able to get their hands on it all the while offering no reason, not even the usual they might run out of copies reason since it's digital, for them to do it is pretty entitled.
I find it genuinely fascinating that you consider this entitlement. What other industry do you pre purchase things for full price with absolutely zero incentive and that is considered normal? Especially a media that has literally zero supply shortage problems with digital distribution. You may make a reservation for dinner but you still don't pay until after you eat it.
Maybe it is better to ask, Why would you pre purchase ANY game for the same price and same products as after release?
I tend to agree with those above who say this is more a case of company entitlement than anything else.
Maybe it is better to ask, Why would you pre purchase ANY game for the same price and same products as after release?
I tend to agree with those above who say this is more a case of company entitlement than anything else.