and ... Steams greenlight fails .....

[Lunar Templar]

Ikaruga [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=183195387] is being put through the green light process, you know, the classic shooter, generally loved by every one who's ever played it (and like beat there asses) and considered a classic.

THE FUCK....

This is twice now (that I know of) of a good game, released on another platform getting screwed like this, the other being Shantea: Riskys Revenge, made by Wayforward, ya know, same people that just released the Ducktales remake? That DIDN'T go through and of the green light bullshit.

Seriously, how's the retard running that thing cause they are a sleep at the fucking wheel.

 

[SilkySkyKitten]

Ikaruga [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=183195387] is being put through the green light process, you know, the classic shooter, generally loved by every one who's ever played it (and like beat there asses) and considered a classic.

THE FUCK....

This is twice now (that I know of) of a good game, released on another platform getting screwed like this, the other being Shantea: Riskys Revenge, made by Wayforward, ya know, same people that just released the Ducktales remake? That DIDN'T go through and of the green light bullshit.

Uhmm, dude... you do realize Shantae: Risky's Revenge was greenlit a few weeks ago right? Yeah it took forever, but it was greenlit and is going to be released on Steam. So I fail to see how it got "screwed" like you claim.

Plus, how has Ikaruga gotten screwed? It just was added to Greenlight not too long ago. Hell, I check Greenlight fairly often and I had no clue it was put up there until this thread, so how in the hell could it have been "screwed" already? Unless you're insinuating that anything that ends up on Greenlight is "screwed", which is... well, bullshit. I mean, yes, there have been some nasty cases of games getting shafted on Greenlight, like in the case of Paranautical Activity. But even that was eventually greenlit and released on Steam so that clearly shows things are getting better and Valve knows they need to improve the service and are trying to improve the service.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Uhmm, dude... you do realize Shantae: Risky's Revenge was greenlit a few weeks ago right? Yeah it took forever, but it was greenlit and is going to be released on Steam. So I fail to see how it got "screwed" like you claim.

I did not know that, thought it was still in 'green-light purgatory'

Plus, how has Ikaruga gotten screwed? It just was added to Greenlight not too long ago. Hell, I check Greenlight fairly often and I had no clue it was put up there until this thread, so how in the hell could it have been "screwed" already? Unless you're insinuating that anything that ends up on Greenlight is "screwed", which is... well, bullshit. I mean, yes, there have been some nasty cases of games getting shafted on Greenlight, like in the case of Paranautical Activity. But even that was eventually greenlit and released on Steam so that clearly shows things are getting better and Valve knows they need to improve the service and are trying to improve the service.

How about how it shouldn't even be in green light to begin with, Shantae shouldn't have been ether. Both games have had successe else where, Ikaruga even being called a classic of its genera, but no ... we're gonna make it go through the same process as unproven indie titles.

Mean while, Diakatana gets through just fine .... I the only one seeing the fucking problem here.

 

[Camarilla]

Who should submit their games to Steam Greenlight? Is there another way to submit my game to Steam? [http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/about/?appid=765&section=faq#general]

Steam Greenlight has replaced our previous submission process. Any developer or publisher who is new to Steam and interested in submitting their game to the platform should submit their game through Steam Greenlight.

Devs/publishers who don't have any games already on Steam must submit their games through Greenlight, whereas those that already have distributed on Steam before don't have to. That's how Daikatana was released on Steam with no fuss and why these games need Greenlighting.

 

[wintercoat]

Ikaruga [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=183195387] is being put through the green light process, you know, the classic shooter, generally loved by every one who's ever played it (and like beat there asses) and considered a classic.

THE FUCK....

This is twice now (that I know of) of a good game, released on another platform getting screwed like this, the other being Shantea: Riskys Revenge, made by Wayforward, ya know, same people that just released the Ducktales remake? That DIDN'T go through and of the green light bullshit.

Uhmm, dude... you do realize Shantae: Risky's Revenge was greenlit a few weeks ago right? Yeah it took forever, but it was greenlit and is going to be released on Steam. So I fail to see how it got "screwed" like you claim.

Plus, how has Ikaruga gotten screwed? It just was added to Greenlight not too long ago. Hell, I check Greenlight fairly often and I had no clue it was put up there until this thread, so how in the hell could it have been "screwed" already? Unless you're insinuating that anything that ends up on Greenlight is "screwed", which is... well, bullshit. I mean, yes, there have been some nasty cases of games getting shafted on Greenlight, like in the case of Paranautical Activity. But even that was eventually greenlit and released on Steam so that clearly shows things are getting better and Valve knows they need to improve the service and are trying to improve the service.

Greenlight is supposed to be a platform for less well-known games to be given more attention. It's supposed to allow good games which otherwise wouldn't get on Steam a chance to do so. By adding well established and popular games to Greenlight instead of just putting them in the store, it clogs up Greenlight and takes away from those who can actually use the publicity from Greenlight.

Coupled with how few games actually get Greenlit monthly, and you have a failing of the platform. The popular, well established game are all but assured to get Greenlit, so making them go through the process is superfluous, and the spot they take up could have gone to a game that is less well known, but just as deserving.

 

[mad825]

...It's supposed to allow good games which otherwise wouldn't get on Steam a chance to do so...

...The popular, well established game are all but assured to get Greenlit, so making them go through the process is superfluous, and the spot they take up could have gone to a game that is less well known, but just as deserving.

You do realise how contradictory that statement is right?

Greenlight is a popularity contest. plain and simple.

The system does not account for competency, originality or even assurance. In fact, Valve are quite willing to release games onto their store regardless of the problems the game has and as they're the retailers it's their to job make sure that the games they sell are up for it. In most countries, the retailers are accountable for the bad quality products.

Valve has admitted time and time again that they know Greenlight has major problems and also has major problems with greenlighting games because there are just too many for them to ship.

From what I understand, Greenlight is a system to process games into their store in a orderly fashion. Preventing and showing no discrimination as to which games get processed due to limitations of their workforce....Or what ever gets them the money the quickest

 

[Canadamus Prime]

How about instead of whining you go vote for this Ikaruga to get Green lit if you like it so much?

 

[shintakie10]

How about instead of whining you go vote for this Ikaruga to get Green lit if you like it so much?

I think you completely misunderstand the issue here.

 

[lacktheknack]

This isn't a complete failure.

That's like calling a hiccup a "fatal heart attack".

Yes, it's annoying, but is there any doubt that they'll get through? Valve acknowledges that Greenlight has issues, but this isn't the travesty of sanity that OP is trying to make it out to be.

 

[NightHawk21]

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Maybe just maybe you should stop your complaining long enough to read about what greenlight is supposed to be. Games get put there when the creators don't have games on steam yet. Its just a queue for some games.

Now that being said. If you the game is as popular as you say it is (it isn't; you're exaggerating) then it will be greenlit relatively quickly. And as for the argument about it being a success elsewhere (where exactly), what's your point? Even though I know what you're getting at the argument is flawed in that no other place is steam. No other place has the reach and power that steam has, so why would steam take success in a small arena as something worth a lot of weight.

Now perhaps instead of making ranty threads, why not do the more sensible thing and upvote the game and play it on those other successful places if you want. Hell if you want to make a thread maybe something along the lines of "Hey this game just got released on steam greenlight. For those of you who don't know its a game about *blank*. If you want to try it you can play a version of it at *blank*. If you like the game make sure to upvote." That might've at least sparked some competition about the game and maybe earned you a few more likes on the game. All this posted succeeded in doing was showing that you like to rant at things you don't fully understand and put myself (and probably other people as well) off of the game.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well Steam has their screening process fucked up right now, they say the only way in is Greenlight but certain games get in without having to do it and others somehow have to, even games from the same dev or publisher get different treatment.

It's just messy for now, my advice is writing some angry letters to Valve...

 

[Canadamus Prime]

How about instead of whining you go vote for this Ikaruga to get Green lit if you like it so much?

I think you completely misunderstand the issue here.

A cursory glance an some of the other posts suggests I don't misunderstand anything. What I understand is that the OP is whining because a supposed revived classic has to go through Steam's Greenlight and hasn't been Green Lit within 5 minutes (hyperbole). So I reiterate, the OP should, instead of whining, go vote for the game s/he likes to help ensure it gets through.

 

[Lunar Templar]

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I've bough Shantea twice before and have the DC version of Ikaruga.

How about instead of whining you go vote for this Ikaruga to get Green lit if you like it so much?

I also did upvote it before I made this thread, so ... I did my part to fix this idiotic situation.

Nether of which changes the fact that shit like Diakatana got right through and these did not. yay for quality assurance standards ....

edit: and you DO miss under stand, its not that it hasn't been green lit yet, its that it should need to be green lit at all.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

This isn't a complete failure.

That's like calling a hiccup a "fatal heart attack".

Yes, it's annoying, but is there any doubt that they'll get through? Valve acknowledges that Greenlight has issues, but this isn't the travesty of sanity that OP is trying to make it out to be.

certain people can't help living up to the over reactionary gamer stereotype

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Ikaruga [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=183195387] is being put through the green light process, you know, the classic shooter, generally loved by every one who's ever played it (and like beat there asses) and considered a classic.

...Never heard of it.

Nether of which changes the fact that shit like Diakatana got right through and these did not. yay for quality assurance standards ....

edit: and you DO miss under stand, its not that it hasn't been green lit yet, its that it should need to be green lit at all.

Diakatana devs Ion Storm already got though the old Steam application process years ago with Dues Ex entering the Steam market back in 2007 and doesn't need to go through the process again.

It appears Treasure, the game devs you are squawking about do not have anything on Steam yet and the publishers don't want to get involved in getting it on either.

This isn't a complete failure.

That's like calling a hiccup a "fatal heart attack".

Yes, it's annoying, but is there any doubt that they'll get through? Valve acknowledges that Greenlight has issues, but this isn't the travesty of sanity that OP is trying to make it out to be.

Pretty much, OP how about making a thread announcing that a supposed classic shump game went onto greenlight yesterday and that everyone should get behind it rather than go into an insane rant that's going to put people off the game?

 

[Lukeje]

The fact that the game was popular on console several years ago does not necessarily mean that there is demand for it on the PC...
Thus the idea of determining the demand for it doesn't seem entirely ridiculous to me.

 

[rbstewart7263]

Ikaruga [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=183195387] is being put through the green light process, you know, the classic shooter, generally loved by every one who's ever played it (and like beat there asses) and considered a classic.

THE FUCK....

This is twice now (that I know of) of a good game, released on another platform getting screwed like this, the other being Shantea: Riskys Revenge, made by Wayforward, ya know, same people that just released the Ducktales remake? That DIDN'T go through and of the green light bullshit.

Uhmm, dude... you do realize Shantae: Risky's Revenge was greenlit a few weeks ago right? Yeah it took forever, but it was greenlit and is going to be released on Steam. So I fail to see how it got "screwed" like you claim.

Plus, how has Ikaruga gotten screwed? It just was added to Greenlight not too long ago. Hell, I check Greenlight fairly often and I had no clue it was put up there until this thread, so how in the hell could it have been "screwed" already? Unless you're insinuating that anything that ends up on Greenlight is "screwed", which is... well, bullshit. I mean, yes, there have been some nasty cases of games getting shafted on Greenlight, like in the case of Paranautical Activity. But even that was eventually greenlit and released on Steam so that clearly shows things are getting better and Valve knows they need to improve the service and are trying to improve the service.

Greenlight is supposed to be a platform for less well-known games to be given more attention. It's supposed to allow good games which otherwise wouldn't get on Steam a chance to do so. By adding well established and popular games to Greenlight instead of just putting them in the store, it clogs up Greenlight and takes away from those who can actually use the publicity from Greenlight.

Coupled with how few games actually get Greenlit monthly, and you have a failing of the platform. The popular, well established game are all but assured to get Greenlit, so making them go through the process is superfluous, and the spot they take up could have gone to a game that is less well known, but just as deserving.

but theres alot of trash that needs takin out and I feel greenlight does that. I mean really you go through there and its not all mighty no. 9's no sir. I saw one where a 8 year old with some damn decent programming a bility made a game bout rectangles jumping and stuff. pretty impressive but nothing to pay cash for thats for certain.

 

[Drummodino]

Um OP needs to calm down a bit I think. So a game is on greenlight. What is wrong with that? If it's popular enough it should get released and then the publisher has their foot in the door. I don't see the problem?

 

[Nazulu]

Why would this be considered a classic? Looks like an average shooter that hasn't done anything different. I mean, I love shooters, I've been playing them all my life and this one doesn't look like it does anything special.

Also, I thought it was a popularity contest. It's unfortunate it didn't make the cut again but it should make it eventually.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

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I've bough Shantea twice before and have the DC version of Ikaruga.

How about instead of whining you go vote for this Ikaruga to get Green lit if you like it so much?

I also did upvote it before I made this thread, so ... I did my part to fix this idiotic situation.

Nether of which changes the fact that shit like Diakatana got right through and these did not. yay for quality assurance standards ....

edit: and you DO miss under stand, its not that it hasn't been green lit yet, its that it should need to be green lit at all.

Well complaining about it here is not going to do any good. Go complain to Valve about it.