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adakias said:
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adakias said:
Wahh, so excited!!
I don't know why either. I think I'm just really happy today.
I freakin' loved Dissidia so any news is good news really... though I would have preferred Seifer over Laguna (if we're talkin' FF8) for the sake of having more villainy people. There aren't enough jerkasses in Dissidia.
Also, am I like the only one who doesn't totally hate Vaan? Sure he's, uhh... not really a memorable kind of character, but it could be worse...? Maybe sorta?
hm good point,
Seifer and more villains that is not Vaan but then I hated everything about XII so there you go.

Maybe they just couldn't think of a way to make him differant enough from Squall?
Or perhaps they'll announce him later(I can dream can't I?)
That's kind of what I figured the issue was, what with all the gunblade-iness.
Surely they could think of something though. I dunno. I'm just gonna try and be content with Laguna. Maybe his presence spice up the story in some way. Dissidia sure as hell needs help in that department.
Lagunas inclusion destroys any chances of Seifer getting in. Any more than 3 characters per game and they start going into the realm of favoritism and doesn't give the other games a chance. Seifer COULD have an unique fighting style, but his appearance and rather similarities to Squall put him too close to clone territory. And Dissidia has done a kick ass job so far staying away from clones.

The 3 primary factors that the devs mentioned in deciding characters are:

1) popularity- Primarily who is popular in the eyes of Japan. That is a big reason why Vaan was in due to fan demand.
2) Uniqueness- Characters they can make a clearly distinctive combat style for to avoid the aforementioned clone issue.
3) Drama- Who can add drama to the games story through character chemistry, personality, ect..

That being said, IF we are getting a possible 10 max new characters, it could be safe to say the next few will be "bad guys" or grey area characters such as Kain. After all, they said they aint just adding 3 or 4 characters, and 10 seems like the most reasonable limit to new characters. That also means a possibility of 10 new stages as well, as for each new character added to the game, a new stage will be added as well.

I'm still hoping for Auron to get in as he has a good connection between Tidus and Jecht and he's a badass of course. But I hope for some more bad guys, Gilgamesh has a good chance of getting in as Nomura expressed interest in putting him in. Maybe after all the "good guys" reveals, we'll get the bad guys next.

EDIT: Hmm, pretty funny how Lagunas EX mode is just a weapon swap like Squall, Cloud, Lightning...Trades his normal guns for pimped out gold plated ones lol. And then blasts you to hell with a fuck ton of weaponry for his burst.
 

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-Seraph- said:
adakias said:
moretimethansense said:
adakias said:
Wahh, so excited!!
I don't know why either. I think I'm just really happy today.
I freakin' loved Dissidia so any news is good news really... though I would have preferred Seifer over Laguna (if we're talkin' FF8) for the sake of having more villainy people. There aren't enough jerkasses in Dissidia.
Also, am I like the only one who doesn't totally hate Vaan? Sure he's, uhh... not really a memorable kind of character, but it could be worse...? Maybe sorta?
hm good point,
Seifer and more villains that is not Vaan but then I hated everything about XII so there you go.

Maybe they just couldn't think of a way to make him differant enough from Squall?
Or perhaps they'll announce him later(I can dream can't I?)
That's kind of what I figured the issue was, what with all the gunblade-iness.
Surely they could think of something though. I dunno. I'm just gonna try and be content with Laguna. Maybe his presence spice up the story in some way. Dissidia sure as hell needs help in that department.
Lagunas inclusion destroys any chances of Seifer getting in. Any more than 3 characters per game and they start going into the realm of favoritism and doesn't give the other games a chance. Seifer COULD have an unique fighting style, but his appearance and rather similarities to Squall put him too close to clone territory. And Dissidia has done a kick ass job so far staying away from clones.

The 3 primary factors that the devs mentioned in deciding characters are:

1) popularity- Primarily who is popular in the eyes of Japan. That is a big reason why Vaan was in due to fan demand.
2) Uniqueness- Characters they can make a clearly distinctive combat style for to avoid the aforementioned clone issue.
3) Drama- Who can add drama to the games story through character chemistry, personality, ect..

That being said, IF we are getting a possible 10 max new characters, it could be safe to say the next few will be "bad guys" or grey area characters such as Kain. After all, they said they aint just adding 3 or 4 characters, and 10 seems like the most reasonable limit to new characters. That also means a possibility of 10 new stages as well, as for each new character added to the game, a new stage will be added as well.

I'm still hoping for Auron to get in as he has a good connection between Tidus and Jecht and he's a badass of course. But I hope for some more bad guys, Gilgamesh has a good chance of getting in as Nomura expressed interest in putting him in. Maybe after all the "good guys" reveals, we'll get the bad guys next.
That's a given and all, but I'm just optimistic. x3
Lots of good points by the way. Favoritism would totally suck...
I just can't think of a lot of villainy characters right now aside from Seifer, Gilgamesh, and Seymour (creepy ._.). As long as they put in more baddies I'll be content. It just seems so hero focused right now.
And Auron would be really really awesome. I kinda assumed he'd be in due to his general excellence and popularity but we'll see. ^.^
 

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Characters Kingdom Hearts in it would be Bad-Ass
Maybe Sora, Riku + Ansem?
 

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Blights said:
Characters Kingdom Hearts in it would be Bad-Ass
Maybe Sora, Riku + Ansem?
I've gone over this before and the answer is still NO. Maybe if they ever make a Dassidia vs KH game or some junk we could see it. But this is Dissidia:Final Fantasy, not Dissidia: Square Enix Franchises. There is no point in including them and especially when there is 20 years worth of FF characters to choose from.

KH characters would jsut be out of place and eat up space for more worthy characters...like Gilgamesh, Auron, Yuna, Barthandelous, ect...

adakias said:
That's a given and all, but I'm just optimistic. x3
Lots of good points by the way. Favoritism would totally suck...
I just can't think of a lot of villainy characters right now aside from Seifer, Gilgamesh, and Seymour (creepy ._.). As long as they put in more baddies I'll be content. It just seems so hero focused right now.
And Auron would be really really awesome. I kinda assumed he'd be in due to his general excellence and popularity but we'll see. ^.^
Well to be fair, there are always more heroes than villains. Bad guys tend to be singular while an entire party of good guys oppose them. that's just how things have gone throughout the series so it's gonna be difficult choosing relevant bad guys.

I want more bad guys too, wanna see what bad guy they may pull from 13 and possibly 11 as each game should AT LEAST get two characters like the first. Although in the end it wont matter as story wise; all these newly added characters have some terrible fate awaiting them somewhaere along the story. Dissidia 2 is a prequel to the first game in terms of story, so this game is less "find the mcguffans for half the story" and more "oh crap what the hell happened to these guys to prevent them from going onto the 13th cycle?"
 

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Tetsuya Nomura clearly stated no KH characters would make the cut.

That being said after reading some stuff and watching Laguna's trailer I'm expecting him to be a spam type fighter.

Also weren't they going to ad +1/+1 to every game? Though I may be wrong.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Blights said:
Characters Kingdom Hearts in it would be Bad-Ass
Maybe Sora, Riku + Ansem?
I've gone over this before and the answer is still NO. Maybe if they ever make a Dassidia vs KH game or some junk we could see it. But this is Dissidia:Final Fantasy, not Dissidia: Square Enix Franchises. There is no point in including them and especially when there is 20 years worth of FF characters to choose from.

KH characters would jsut be out of place and eat up space for more worthy characters...like Gilgamesh, Auron, Yuna, Barthandelous, ect...
KH Characters wouldn't be too out of place, considering they've already interacted with Cloud, Squall, Tifa, etc. Anyway, I just thought it would be cool.

Tis' all.

I'd like more Ranged characters that don't use magic, Balthier or Sazh would be nice.
 

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Zetsubou-Sama said:
Tetsuya Nomura clearly stated no KH characters would make the cut.

That being said after reading some stuff and watching Laguna's trailer I'm expecting him to be a spam type fighter.

Also weren't they going to ad +1/+1 to every game? Though I may be wrong.
Wait...what trailer? There haven't been any new Dissidia trailers to my knowledge (and Dissidiaforums would sure as hell already have it) aside from the basic assist tutorial. He probably will be a "spam" fighter. Along the lines of Onion Knight probably to balance him out. Make him a chipper with low damage but terribly high hit rate.

And no, they aren't doing "equality" for this game. The closest to equality is like what I pointed out above; no more than 3 per game before it dips into the realm of favoritism. They did the whole equal thing for the first game because...well they just had to. Dissidia was a "Happy 20th birthday FF" so they commemorated the first ten games. Duodecim is more like "Thanks for supporting our games guys, here's more awesome" thank you note.
 

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I'm still waiting to hear about a game-play mode/mechanic that allows you to fight summons/GFs in a boss-rush or, out in the world map...and by defeating them, you get to use them. Just saying.

Anyway, since Laguna is in, maybe other gun-toting characters will make it in. Like Vincent. Great to see he isn't forgotten ^^
 

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That's actually pretty cool, though I still really want to see Gilgamesh in this game. Come on! He could be the second hero from Final Fantasy V!
 

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That's actually pretty cool, though I still really want to see Gilgamesh in this game. Come on! He could be the second hero from Final Fantasy V!
He probably has a good chance of getting in as Nomura wanted to put him in. hell he should have demanded they put him in just like he demanded that Kain be in it (Kain was supposed to be in the first game).

Just think how awesome it would be to see him go from spear weilding bad ass to OMGWTF 6 armed/weapon weilding bad ass.

 
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well unfortunately had to get rid of my psp to pay for college crap, so wont be getting it unfortunately now due to the psp being a non essential for me..sad day. i loved the first game and i would probably love this game but wont be playing it so dont care too much now..
 

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Laguna, hell yes. But VAAN?! What's he going to do, shreek in everyone's ears about how Basch is in town?!
 

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....who the hell put Vaan in this game?
As bad a game as 12 was, it had some pretty nice characters.
Why pick the single most retarded one?
Also, Laguna.....cool i suppose.
 

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Lullabye said:
....who the hell put Vaan in this game?
As bad a game as 12 was, it had some pretty nice characters.
Why pick the single most retarded one?
Also, Laguna.....cool i suppose.
Well he's popular in Japan and that's all that matters to the developers. Besides it aint all bad...Basche is SORT OF in the game. Each character will now have 3 costumes in total instead of two, and Gabranths 3rd alt is him disguised as Basche.

 

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-Seraph- said:
Lullabye said:
....who the hell put Vaan in this game?
As bad a game as 12 was, it had some pretty nice characters.
Why pick the single most retarded one?
Also, Laguna.....cool i suppose.
Well he's popular in Japan and that's all that matters to the developers. Besides it aint all bad...Basche is SORT OF in the game. Each character will now have 3 costumes in total instead of two, and Gabranths 3rd alt is him disguised as Basche.

*squeals like a little girl*
I think I just...no, never mind just spilled my drink.
But wow, that just made up for the whole Vaan thing.....almost.
 

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Why would I want to play as Erectile dysfunction man? by which I mean Laguna. I mean I guess a pure gun charactr is cool but of the 'Gunners' we got I dunno I find him the least intresting.

Still I'm intrigued about the party system and running around. ESPECIALLY since it's supposed to be a prototype of what they want to do with Versus