And the Nominees Are...

[sosolidshoe]

Watching Bob deriding The King's Speech, one of the most credible, entertaining, evocative dramas of the last decade, while simultaneously bemoaning the lack of recognition for Scott Pilgrim, is actually pretty sad.

Also, could somebody please explain to me what it is about The Social Network that is award-worthy, other than it being about Facebook, and thus "cool" via some kind of moronic social-alchemy? It's a story about idiots and arseholes, and it's boring as hell to watch.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

Did Bob ever do a piece on why the Academy hates Nolan so much?

OT: I thought the Tron Score was alright, cause i'm not into techno much......but yeah, they should've been nominated just for that situational peculiarity. Missed Opportunity indeed.

And did you honestly expect films like Scott Pilgrim and Kick-Ass to get nods? It's surprising that Inception got a nomination at well.

Edit: Almost forgot, but i wanted to say that the best possible outcome for the animated film category imo.... would be if How to train your Dragon won the Best animated film, and Toy Story won ONLY the Best Picture. As much as the latter was incredible (hence, fingers crossed) How to train your Dragon was a damn good movie, and deserves some recognition. Agreed?

 

[eljawa]

I dont think CHristopher Nolan deserved Best Director. The movie lacked ay real emotion and i dont remember a lot of character development, just a ton of cool shots and ideas. As a film it was an AMAZING production. However, the actual directing was not what the Academy has ever looked for. like, I felt like the whole thing with DIcaprios wife was forced, overacted, and underutilized.
Like I said, it was wicked cool movie, but couldve been so much better.

SO my vote for best picture goes to Social Network (well, really Toy Story 3, but...unfortunatly without a best director nod to lee unkrich and prejudice to animated films, it seems unlikely)and yeah

Also, could somebody please explain to me what it is about The Social Network that is award-worthy, other than it being about Facebook, and thus "cool" via some kind of moronic social-alchemy? It's a story about idiots and arseholes, and it's boring as hell to watch.

The script was beautifully crafted, the shots were expertly done. The story about a smart kids rise to fame, but about the sacrifices he made to get there, is one that is intriguing and serves as a moral lesson to todays society.

The movie is all about interaction, and very much is the movie that defines the current generation, a generation that sacrifices human contact for internet contact.

Also, it is a lot like Citizen Kane, considered the best film of all time


and...idk, when I saw it, i left amazed...much more so than any other movie

 

[Atmos Duality]

I must be the only man alive who isn't all that thrilled with Inception.
Then again, at least it deserves any accolades it gets.

This also marks the first year where I had to choose a non-Pixar film for my personal spoiler for best Animation. Why? Because while I knew exactly what I was getting into with Toy Story 3, but How to Train Your Dragon was surprisingly fun to watch which was not something I was expecting at all (check out every single other film that prominently features dragons. Go ahead. I'll wait...
Finished?...if so, you would notice immediately that they almost always suck ass.)

Now, if only Dreamworks can nix that fucking disproportionate SMIRK. It worked when you were making those spiteful Disney knockoffs, it doesn't work when your movie isn't entirely satirical. Why? It's distracting, and completely out of tone for the movie.

 

[CatmanStu]

I really hope that Inception wins Best Picture, and Nolan wins Best Screenplay then maybe he will stop trying to show the world how 'clever' he is with convoluted, dialogue heavy dross and give Batman some decent action beats in the next one.

 

[Decabo]

Personally, I think James Franco deserves the Best Actor Oscar for 127 Hours, since Colin Firth's role didn't seem to far away from how he acts normally, minus the stammer. I'd like to see Firth try to act out cutting his own arm off.

 

[Herr Wozzeck]

Pleasant surprise seeing Winter's Bone in there - a murder mystery set in the rural mafia of Appalachian meth dealers, it's the best movie nobody saw this year.

YES!

I'm no longer the only person on these forums who saw Winter's Bone! Now that was a fantastic movie! And Jennifer Lawrence deserved that nod, I can tell you that much.

 

[SpaceSpork]

And may this be the last time we have to hear Bob lament over Scott Pilgrim. For crying out loud, Marmaduke made more money than that clunker. It was way too much of niche movie to ever have any real success.

So, Bob... get past it, and move on. Thank you.

So good = money making?

Then I suppose Transformers 2 is one of the best sci-fi movies of all time.

 

[SpaceSpork]

Watching Bob deriding The King's Speech, one of the most credible, entertaining, evocative dramas of the last decade, while simultaneously bemoaning the lack of recognition for Scott Pilgrim, is actually pretty sad.

Also, could somebody please explain to me what it is about The Social Network that is award-worthy, other than it being about Facebook, and thus "cool" via some kind of moronic social-alchemy? It's a story about idiots and arseholes, and it's boring as hell to watch.

Credible, sure. Entertaining, I suppose, if you're into that sort of thing. But evocative? That movie was the most bland, uninspired Oscar Bait film of 2010.

Also, the reason The Social Network is award worthy is because of its complex human emotions. What you percieve to be "idiots and arseholes" were actually real human characters with depth up the ass.

 

[CosmicCommander]

Thanks, Moviebob, for calling The King's Speech on what it is. Everyone around me seems to think that it was some magnificent film, to be held upon the pedestal of highest honor. I thought it was OK. Maybe good. I dunno. I liked Colin Firth, but a predictable plotline and lazy cinematography and directing brought the whole thing down.

IT'S A REPUBLICAN!

GENTLEMEN, FFIIIIIRE!

OT: I loved The King's Speech- I found it brilliantly encapsulated the personality of George VI, and the feel of Britain on the lead up to war; and it had enough history to make me feel smart when watching it.

 

[SpaceSpork]

IT'S A REPUBLICAN!

GENTLEMEN, FFIIIIIRE!

Me no like King's Speech = Republican?

Sorry, good sir, this right here is one Democratic mothafucka.

EDIT: And would a republican have thought that Black Swan was a great movie? Didn't think so

 

[obisean]

Personally, I think James Franco deserves the Best Actor Oscar for 127 Hours, since Colin Firth's role didn't seem to far away from how he acts normally, minus the stammer. I'd like to see Firth try to act out cutting his own arm off.

Though I do agree with you to a point, but as Bob said, Firth is due. Sure Firth delivers in every performance and it's easy to overlook it simply cause he will do it again, but you run into the problem that Peter O'Toole had. Quoting Wikipedia here:

Peter O'Toole holds the record for having the most Oscar nominations (8 for Best Actor) without ever winning a competitive acting award. He was given an Honorary Award in 2002.

O'Toole is considered one of the best actors that ever lived, and yet received precisely 0 Oscars because he, "Will just do it again in his next movie and we can give it to him for that one if nobody else had a, not necessarily better, but breakout role."

To be fair, I've yet to see 127 hours, so I pass no judgement onto Franco. I just hate the "But X had the role of their lifetime and deserves it over Y" argument just because X is up against a Y that constantly delivers good performances.

 

[itf cho]

And may this be the last time we have to hear Bob lament over Scott Pilgrim. For crying out loud, Marmaduke made more money than that clunker. It was way too much of niche movie to ever have any real success.

So, Bob... get past it, and move on. Thank you.

So good = money making?

Then I suppose Transformers 2 is one of the best sci-fi movies of all time.

Equating good to people wanting to see it, which in itself does equal cash; then for two movies that are reasonably contemporary in time frame - then Yes. Face it, the vast majority of the movie going public had zero interest in Scott Pilgrim. Was it a good film for it's niche audience? I have no doubt it was. But Bob seems to think the flick was the best thing to hit the silver screen since Ben Hur. He spent a huge amount of his time on the Expendables review not giving us real information on that film; but whining about how it trashed Scott Pilgrim at the box office, and how the public that decided to see Expendables over Pilgrim must basically be a bunch of cretinous neanderthals.

Now, if the two films are up for debate on their merits at the local college's moderm film class - maybe then Pilgrim comes out on top. I wouldn't know - I didn't bother to pay my money to see either movie (nor Transformers 2). But at least the producers behind The Expendables had a much better vision of what the public was willing to pay to see.

 

[coogs42]

Finally, someone who agrees with me that Chloe Grace Moretz deserves an Oscar for Kick-Ass, I've been saying from the beginning that her performance as Hit Girl deserves an Oscar,in fact look at her face when I asked her if she knew about people wanting her to get an Oscar in this webchat (at 8:50)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPglwUTftyQ . At least she has some great projects (Hick and Hugo Cabret to name two) that may get her nominated and provide the same argument for Colin Firth at this years Oscars. I have all my thoughts on the Oscar nominations on my blog here:http://coogsfilmblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/my-thoughts-on-oscar-nominations.html

 

[Nouw]

WHERE'S DAFT PUNK?NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Ahem, well I know which award Toy Story 3 is getting. The masses of crying adults can't be wrong!

 

[SpaceSpork]

Equating good to people wanting to see it, which in itself does equal cash; then for two movies that are reasonably contemporary in time frame - then Yes. Face it, the vast majority of the movie going public had zero interest in Scott Pilgrim. Was it a good film for it's niche audience? I have no doubt it was. But Bob seems to think the flick was the best thing to hit the silver screen since Ben Hur. He spent a huge amount of his time on the Expendables review not giving us real information on that film; but whining about how it trashed Scott Pilgrim at the box office, and how the public that decided to see Expendables over Pilgrim must basically be a bunch of cretinous neanderthals.

Now, if the two films are up for debate on their merits at the local college's moderm film class - maybe then Pilgrim comes out on top. I wouldn't know - I didn't bother to pay my money to see either movie (nor Transformers 2). But at least the producers behind The Expendables had a much better vision of what the public was willing to pay to see.

Look, man. You're a good person. I know you from Escapecraft. But what you just said is so horrible and putrid that I can hardly bear to read it again. Let's dissect it, shall we?

Most of this post is argumentum ad populum, which is that just because quite a few people like it, that instantly means it's good. This is not so.

Lil Wayne went platinum, which means that many people paid Cash Money (pun!) to listen to his music; does this instantly mean he is a good rapper?
Twilight has made millions, which means many people thought that Twilight looked so good, they purchased it; does this mean it is a good series?
Avatar is the best selling movie of all time, which means that billions of people payed money to see it; does this make it the best movie of all time?
No. Of course not, that's silly. So why, without even having seen either movie, do you declare The Expendables to be an inherently better film?
Certainly it was a niche audience movie, but I find that the meaning of film is to make a film that is good, not to make a buck or two. Perhaps those who made the Expendables were marketing geniuses, but were they artistic geniuses?

Although I do admit that perhaps Moviebob is overdoing it a bit. (he is)

P.S. Ben Hur? Why Ben Hur?

 

[repeating integers]

Wait, so Tron: Legacy didn't get ONE SINGLE MENTION?

I officially hate everything about the oscars, forever. It's not my favourite film in the world, but not even so much as nominating Daft Punk for best score is just so blatantly ludicrous, when so many people loved it. Maybe it's just the internet population, and the rest of the world hated it or something...

THERE SHALL BE MUCH NERD RAGE

At least Inception and Hanz Zimmer are getting some nominations. Loved that film and its soundtrack.

 

[Raven's Nest]

Well I can already predict Nolan getting best director for Batman Rises. I really can't work out why the Acadamy Award committee feels that directors, actors and actresses must prove themselves for at least 5 years before receiving an award. That bullshit needs to end. Oh and MovieBob's opening rant about the Oscars being nothing more than the apex of all the years marketing strategies is right on...

Oh and yes, Tron Legacy was snubbed big time for the visual effects and wardrobe. And Daft Punk probably deserves that Oscar more than anyone else who wasn't nominated for an award this year...