And the world cup goes to...Qatar?
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English fans are screwed. It maybe miles and miles away but the england fans will come in droves. We are the best supported nation at the world cup, and we're also pissheads. Theres gonna be many arrested englishmen that year in qatar.The Great Googly said:
The thing is GDP is a pretty poor representation of development. If I lived on an island living in a tent, but had a diamond factory I'd have a pretty high GDP. But none of the my children can read, none have clean water and we all die before we're 27 - that's underdeveloped. A better representation of Qatar's development would be to look at the HDI (Human Development Index). For all I know at this point Qatar's could be super, but I just want to help dispel the myth that GDP is the end all figure for developmentHyper-space said:
apologies if you already knew that of course, I wouldn't want to seem a patronising shite
Swedish media is saying Qatar got it because of the arenas they're promising to build for it, no doubt along with getting the World Cup to new parts of the world - Africa, Eastern Europe and the Middle East in a row. Wouldn't be surprised if this was followed up by Australia whether they applied or not.
What a surprise; FIFA chooses a country without any form of critical journalism.
And the next World Cup goes to Qatar...
Hmm, I wonder why?
And the next World Cup goes to Qatar...
Hmm, I wonder why?
Who doesn't love Russia?
My government says this on Qatar on regards of travelling:
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We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Qatar because of the threat of terrorist attack against Western interests.
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Statements by international terrorists have called for attacks against Western interests in the Gulf region, including residential compounds, military, oil, transport and aviation interests.
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My government says this on Qatar on regards of travelling:
Summary
We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Qatar because of the threat of terrorist attack against Western interests.
Terrorists have demonstrated the intent and capability to conduct attacks throughout the Arabian Peninsula at places frequented by Westerners, such as commercial and public areas. Further attacks may be planned and could occur in Qatar.
Statements by international terrorists have called for attacks against Western interests in the Gulf region, including residential compounds, military, oil, transport and aviation interests.
Medications that are available over the counter or by prescription in Australia may be illegal in Qatar. See Local Laws for details.
Australia does not have an Embassy or Consulate in Qatar. The Australian Embassy in the United Arab Emirates provides consular assistance to Australians in Qatar.
Be a smart traveller. Before heading overseas:
organise comprehensive travel insurance and check what circumstances and activities are not covered by your policy
Ridiculous although I'm not surprised. The fact that we got two votes (one from an englishman and one from a guy accused by Panorama) is a disgrace given the quality of our bid and bid team (William, Cameron and Beckham did a quality job, as did the chap from City). I am massively dissapointed and angry. Whether or not Russia will do a good job I do feel we have been robbed by a corrupt organisation which has done little to develop football at all (eg. debates on goal-line tech). As for Quatar, same story. I can't see it working out.
Russia I can accept. And I can accept that FIFA wants to move the game into new areas, but why not take it to Australia. They have proven that they can host an olympics, so surely a World Cup is not that much harder. Plus, FIFA's report on Qatar suggested that it was not suitable to host the world cup.
ShadowKatt said:
1984 Los Angeles Olympics finished with a $233 million dollar surplus. Both the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake also posted a multi million dollar surplus.
Seattle profited on the 1962 World's fair (when they built the pavilion, the space needle, and the monorail. From what I can piece together New York made money on a worlds fair as well.
So maybe it's only a problem for places outside the US?
Disclaimer: I understand that you can start adding in costs that are not directly accounted for, such as federal spending, but on the same token it's hard to account for the bonuses to the economy the games bring, and how much revenue that generated as well.
Oh and a little tidbits for you: after the 2012 games London will be the only city to have hosted the games three times, and still be the only city in the UK to have hosted the Olympics. Followed by Athens, Paris, and Los Angeles which both hosted the games twice. The US has hosted more games then any other country, and is the only country to have hosted the games in multiple cities. Aside from Germany on a technicality, Munich, in then West Germany, hosted the games in 1972.
You are right however that the recent games, and other international events have failed to generate a profit, but take for instance the 1988 games in South Korea, and the 2008 games in China. Both seen as a one in a series of steps into the world stage by not only the respective countries but the world at large. That's a benefit to hosting the games if I ever saw one. There are quite a few less tangible benefits for hosting the Olympics (and other international events). The kind you can't exactly account for on a ledger.
They're planning on building these stadioums in Qatar:
http://www.skysports.com/gallery/detail/0,20501,11096_6460734,00.html#photo=12
Even if they pull only one of those off I'll be impressed.
http://www.skysports.com/gallery/detail/0,20501,11096_6460734,00.html#photo=12
Even if they pull only one of those off I'll be impressed.
What a load of shit, thanks to our media for going overboard on the corruption stories just before the voting. Nice one, fuckers, that's a sure-fire way to ensure we wouldnt get either of them.
I can however, see how it would work in Russia, they love their football, but Qatar?! I'll be honest, I didnt even know there was such a place till yesterday... Do they have any connection with football at all? Or is it just because they can afford to line the FIFA's pockets?
I can however, see how it would work in Russia, they love their football, but Qatar?! I'll be honest, I didnt even know there was such a place till yesterday... Do they have any connection with football at all? Or is it just because they can afford to line the FIFA's pockets?
In a world where Cristiano Ronaldo is among one of the best paid player list, what do you expect?Wadders said:
To me (absolutely not a jealous Dutch fellow) the whole thing smells like corruption to me.
On a side note: Has anyone realised how hot Quatar is in the summer?
how are they going to fix that?
On a side note: Has anyone realised how hot Quatar is in the summer?
how are they going to fix that?
What i was more implying was that seeing as they have the second largest oil reserve and the second highest GDP they are probably rich, therefore they can afford fancy stadiums and fancy hats.Snipermanic said:
Heh, those defending the English and their recent run of non-violent World Cups:
It's been too easy, the team's been eliminated before the fans have a chance to get drunk!
But in all seriousness, the World Cup has been a chance for countries to prove themselves on the world stage. South Africa has dealt with innumerable problems over the years, but they managed to hold together and put on a great show (though a little bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy).
I think the Russians should be able to do an outstanding job. There's some gorgeous scenery and architecture they can use in promotion of the games, and they're overdue for some good times in that country.
Qatar...if nothing else, their World Cup bid is THE greatest achievement in Public Relations history. A tiny country with no historical ties to international football, and only one major city. But shit son, they had a great song and dance to sell it. Seriously, did anyone see the promotional material come out of their bid? It should be interesting to watch the 2022 Cup come together, that's for sure.
It's been too easy, the team's been eliminated before the fans have a chance to get drunk!
But in all seriousness, the World Cup has been a chance for countries to prove themselves on the world stage. South Africa has dealt with innumerable problems over the years, but they managed to hold together and put on a great show (though a little bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy).
I think the Russians should be able to do an outstanding job. There's some gorgeous scenery and architecture they can use in promotion of the games, and they're overdue for some good times in that country.
Qatar...if nothing else, their World Cup bid is THE greatest achievement in Public Relations history. A tiny country with no historical ties to international football, and only one major city. But shit son, they had a great song and dance to sell it. Seriously, did anyone see the promotional material come out of their bid? It should be interesting to watch the 2022 Cup come together, that's for sure.