And thus concludes Game of Thrones season 6.
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A phenomenal episode, I thought. I've been very 'meh' about much of this season, but this one was one of those ones that actually reminded me why I love this show.
-Unexpected character deaths.
-They made Daenarys seem human again! Seriously, one thing that has bugged me about this season is that Dany was being turned from complex and interesting character into 'General from Warhammer', but this episode finally showed her human side again.
-They dealt with Sansa feeling regret over not telling Jon about the Vale Knights.
-A big reveal (two, actually).
-Another scene with the Mormont girl (she's a blast to watch)
-sweet revenge!
-Unexpected character deaths.
-They made Daenarys seem human again! Seriously, one thing that has bugged me about this season is that Dany was being turned from complex and interesting character into 'General from Warhammer', but this episode finally showed her human side again.
-They dealt with Sansa feeling regret over not telling Jon about the Vale Knights.
-A big reveal (two, actually).
-Another scene with the Mormont girl (she's a blast to watch)
-sweet revenge!
Well that is the problem with having a conversation in text.Zhukov said:
And I know about joke of "The Books are better"
Though it seems a lot of people think this was best episode evar, this is not the feeling for me and most of my friends circle.
This episode was super predictable, a lot of the script could have been directly pulled from a reddit forumite's bad fanfic.
Random thoughts:
-Arya becoming a faceless man after all even though she never finished her training and shouldn't be able to use faces, or even have one (did Jacquen give her a box of faces as a parting gift? And what is all that about the faces being poisonous if you're still "someone", which Arya still is?). Of course this gets glossed over because people wanted Arya to serve Frey pie for so long, they squee and just lap it up.
-The continuing theme of all the pieces magically falling into place for Daenarys. Ranted about that so many times I'm a broken record, so instead Ill go to another continuing pet peeve of mine: I still don't get why Tyrion is so infatuated with her.
He had barely met her for 2 minutes in their first meeting and was already being all "you make me believe again!!! i see you as bestest ruler ever!" even though he had no reason to, and now it still feels weird... Tyrion's motivations aren't properly explained, he is leading a foreign queen to come conquer his homelands, which has people he still cares for in it.. I still don't understand what makes him so on board with this, in the books it made sense (he wanted revenge on the 7 kingdoms) but here they ditched the revenge aspect and have only Tyrion fawning over Daenarys like some puppy, his skepticism and cynism just magically evaporates in her presence. Tyrion what happened to you? You used to be an interesting character but the show version of Dany infected him with her lameness. Him having some interesting thoughts last episode was obviously due to Daenary's absence leaving him to shake off the lameness for a brief moment.
-What possessed Lancel to chase random kids in dark places all alone? I don't understand the thought process here, dude gets given an order by High Sparrow to bring in the queen and possibly fight Ser Gregor who did a sub zero spine rip fatality the other episode... This is clearly a time of urgency and the High Septon is counting on him, the entire Septon is waiting, quickly gather the faithful we shall march to the red keep and... Wait is that a random kid running around? This cannot stand, I shall go after him all alone! It's what the Seven would have wanted!
-Jon is a sweet heart. Doesn't show one hint of anger or annoyance at Samsa (goddamnit girl the last of the giants died cos of you!), is super merciful towards Melissandre, is elevated to King of the north... Is this still GoT?
They better not forget his negative sides such as his stark tendency to act before he thinks or I'll have to demand he gets killed horribly (and stay dead) as a matter of principle. GoT was set up as this world where being good and virtuous doesn't mean things magically work in your favor, Jon is starting to subvert that. Good thing Littlefinger's here to make a wedge between Samsa and Jon and throw in a little drama.
-Tower of Joy. Well the thing everyone said would happen for years happened. Nuff' said.
-Is the Queen of Thorns contractually obligated to steal every scene she is in? She even achieved what no one thought possible and made a scene with the Sand Snakes in Dorne tolerable and even amusing.
-It was a quick scene but I like them showing the tower of the Maesters and its insides, its nice to have a bit of world building and they could easily have glossed over this part.
-I thought Ser Strong was basically a golem and had no real desires or needs anymore? Maybe this is just book knowledge influencing me but just thought it odd he still feels up for some..whatever it was he did/is going to do to the Septa for the rest of her life.
In my head cannon gonna justify it as Cersei having instructed him in great detail as to what to do the Septa, I prefer him as an automaton/robot whose only prime directive is to protect and serve Cersei.
-Music was good, gotta admit that much. Now our wait begins for next season...
This episode was super predictable, a lot of the script could have been directly pulled from a reddit forumite's bad fanfic.
Random thoughts:
-Arya becoming a faceless man after all even though she never finished her training and shouldn't be able to use faces, or even have one (did Jacquen give her a box of faces as a parting gift? And what is all that about the faces being poisonous if you're still "someone", which Arya still is?). Of course this gets glossed over because people wanted Arya to serve Frey pie for so long, they squee and just lap it up.
-The continuing theme of all the pieces magically falling into place for Daenarys. Ranted about that so many times I'm a broken record, so instead Ill go to another continuing pet peeve of mine: I still don't get why Tyrion is so infatuated with her.
He had barely met her for 2 minutes in their first meeting and was already being all "you make me believe again!!! i see you as bestest ruler ever!" even though he had no reason to, and now it still feels weird... Tyrion's motivations aren't properly explained, he is leading a foreign queen to come conquer his homelands, which has people he still cares for in it.. I still don't understand what makes him so on board with this, in the books it made sense (he wanted revenge on the 7 kingdoms) but here they ditched the revenge aspect and have only Tyrion fawning over Daenarys like some puppy, his skepticism and cynism just magically evaporates in her presence. Tyrion what happened to you? You used to be an interesting character but the show version of Dany infected him with her lameness. Him having some interesting thoughts last episode was obviously due to Daenary's absence leaving him to shake off the lameness for a brief moment.
-What possessed Lancel to chase random kids in dark places all alone? I don't understand the thought process here, dude gets given an order by High Sparrow to bring in the queen and possibly fight Ser Gregor who did a sub zero spine rip fatality the other episode... This is clearly a time of urgency and the High Septon is counting on him, the entire Septon is waiting, quickly gather the faithful we shall march to the red keep and... Wait is that a random kid running around? This cannot stand, I shall go after him all alone! It's what the Seven would have wanted!
-Jon is a sweet heart. Doesn't show one hint of anger or annoyance at Samsa (goddamnit girl the last of the giants died cos of you!), is super merciful towards Melissandre, is elevated to King of the north... Is this still GoT?
They better not forget his negative sides such as his stark tendency to act before he thinks or I'll have to demand he gets killed horribly (and stay dead) as a matter of principle. GoT was set up as this world where being good and virtuous doesn't mean things magically work in your favor, Jon is starting to subvert that. Good thing Littlefinger's here to make a wedge between Samsa and Jon and throw in a little drama.
-Tower of Joy. Well the thing everyone said would happen for years happened. Nuff' said.
-Is the Queen of Thorns contractually obligated to steal every scene she is in? She even achieved what no one thought possible and made a scene with the Sand Snakes in Dorne tolerable and even amusing.
-It was a quick scene but I like them showing the tower of the Maesters and its insides, its nice to have a bit of world building and they could easily have glossed over this part.
-I thought Ser Strong was basically a golem and had no real desires or needs anymore? Maybe this is just book knowledge influencing me but just thought it odd he still feels up for some..whatever it was he did/is going to do to the Septa for the rest of her life.
In my head cannon gonna justify it as Cersei having instructed him in great detail as to what to do the Septa, I prefer him as an automaton/robot whose only prime directive is to protect and serve Cersei.
-Music was good, gotta admit that much. Now our wait begins for next season...
Than again theoretically how would her rule be like if things did go her way?pookie101 said:
We never seen Cersei's political goals and ambitons. What does she strive for in Westeros, does she want to make Westeros a better place? Or does she want to be Queen so she can continue fucking her brother concequences and laws be dammned?
Great episode, I thought that Bastardbowl would take best episode of the season for me, but this episode could as well. King's Landing was haunting and while the whole situation with the Sparrows is all Cersei's fault, the plan to use wildfire, yeah, that's one way to clean up your mess and deal with your rivals, so yeah, well done Cersei.
Also I really loved Walder Frey's death, out of all the RW conspirators, I wanted him to die the most, but it was also a pretty poetic death as well. Obviously his throat being slit is a callback to how Catelyn died, but Arya feeding his two sons to him was a nice bit of revenge for breaking the guest right since it goes back to how the gods punished the Rat Cook by turning him into a rat that only eats his children, not for killing the King's son, making him into a pie and feeding it to the king, but because he broke one of the most sacred rules in the Seven Kingdoms, the guest right.
Also I really loved Walder Frey's death, out of all the RW conspirators, I wanted him to die the most, but it was also a pretty poetic death as well. Obviously his throat being slit is a callback to how Catelyn died, but Arya feeding his two sons to him was a nice bit of revenge for breaking the guest right since it goes back to how the gods punished the Rat Cook by turning him into a rat that only eats his children, not for killing the King's son, making him into a pie and feeding it to the king, but because he broke one of the most sacred rules in the Seven Kingdoms, the guest right.
A greeeeat episode sealing off the most enjoyable season of GoT since the Red Wedding. There were moments of genuine surprise, like Tommen jumping out the window and the sept blazing up, as well as doses of the spectacular stupidity this season was so fond of (JESUS FUCKING CHRIST HOW DID ARYA GET TO THE TWINS ALL BY HERSELF FROM BRAAVOS I CAN'T EVEN), but overall I really enjoyed it. The piano score in the beginning was a stroke of genius, since that instrument has been seldom heard in the show. All the plotlines seem to be finally converging towards Westeros, something the book is still lightyears away from. The moment between Melisandre, Davos and Jon brought tragedy back into the show, and Liam Cunningham acted the hell out of that scene.
The King's Landing portion of the episode, while nonsensical at times, was absolutely brilliant. The musical accompaniment was the best the show has ever seen, and Cersei's coronation was haunting as can be.
The rest of the episode was pretty much "meh", with a lot of travel time inconsistencies present. It becomes blatant as hell when you have part of Sam's journey as part of an episode where Varys comes from Meereen to Dorne to Meereen again. Sam took a full season to from the Wall to Oldtown, while Varys can do several times that distant within a single episode, it's blatantly ludicrous. They could have simply left Varys in Dorne, where Dany could have met with him and her new allies, having him on the ship in the final shot was mind-blowingly stupid. Hell, having any Westerosi ship, bar the Greyjoys, was dumb, Dany had plenty of ships to make the voyage to Westeros.
Arya's portion of the episode was by far the worst though... there were so many things that didn't make any sense in it, made me audibly groan in annoyance for the whole scene, non-stop.
King's Landing saved this episode from being complete mediocrity to be fair.
The rest of the episode was pretty much "meh", with a lot of travel time inconsistencies present. It becomes blatant as hell when you have part of Sam's journey as part of an episode where Varys comes from Meereen to Dorne to Meereen again. Sam took a full season to from the Wall to Oldtown, while Varys can do several times that distant within a single episode, it's blatantly ludicrous. They could have simply left Varys in Dorne, where Dany could have met with him and her new allies, having him on the ship in the final shot was mind-blowingly stupid. Hell, having any Westerosi ship, bar the Greyjoys, was dumb, Dany had plenty of ships to make the voyage to Westeros.
Arya's portion of the episode was by far the worst though... there were so many things that didn't make any sense in it, made me audibly groan in annoyance for the whole scene, non-stop.
King's Landing saved this episode from being complete mediocrity to be fair.
As much as folks say Freys death was satisfying, I still wanted his fall to be a little more elongated than *poof* Arya.
*shrug*
Still fun.
Lady Mormont confirmed as new favorite.
*shrug*
Still fun.
Lady Mormont confirmed as new favorite.
Actually Cersei is insane, at least the book version of her. We get her mental dialogue in spades in the books, and that woman is so twistedly batshit wacko that it makes my stomach squirm. Thankfully the show doesn't convey that, so we just have a very ruthless looking woman who is willing to kill anyone who gets in her way. Which I still qualify as insane on a personal level. She happily murdered many many innocent people to get at her foes, and doesn't give a shit. Any mind that can knowingly do that to other people is not a stable mind, no matter how you slice it.pookie101 said:
I mean, her brother, killed the Mad King because he threatened to do what she actually did. Mass explosions are not the actions of a sane mind.
I feel people often underrate the King's Landing story arcs as of late. I mean this is the place that gave us the Battle of Blackwater Bay for fuck's sake.Sonmi said:
Can I ask what could Cersei possibly do now that she is Queen of Westeros? Say if all her opposition is gone and she gets her way? Would she be the most tyranical monarch the seven kingdoms ever suffered from since Maegor I Targaryan?
They could set the show only in King's Landing and I would still watch it. It's by far the best element of the series.Samtemdo8 said:
A King needs to have opposition to be tyranical... Maegor had the Faith Militant, Cersei will have her enemies.
Without enemies to be cruel towards to, evil tyranny-prone rulers just end up rather assholish. See Aerys Targaryen while Tywin was his Hand for instance.
I have a feeling that Jamie is going to turn on Cersei at this point. That she's gone so far over the edge that even he can't support her any further. I could be wrong there, given the things he's done for her and their children, but all the children are dead now, partly due to her actions, and she did something that he wouldn't allow the Mad King to do (blow up a goodly chunk of King's Landing), so he might see that as going too far. *shrugs*
This makes me curious how GRRM is going to write the book. Stuff is finally happening after things just slowly rolled on and on.
And isn't this series supposed to end badly? Like the good guys don't win and get to be heroes trope. I figure Dany is hell bent on getting King's Landing, and it likely gets burnt to the ground (Maybe Cersei does that). Did the show touch on the Valonquor(sp?)?.
I honestly don't know how the white walkers arc is going to end, the only thing I can think off is either Jon being a big hero, or the walkers fuck shit up and bring about a battle between Dany and themselves (by invading further south). Then the land is so desolated by that war that Westoros is a wasteland.
Winds of Winter is gonna be gud.
And isn't this series supposed to end badly? Like the good guys don't win and get to be heroes trope. I figure Dany is hell bent on getting King's Landing, and it likely gets burnt to the ground (Maybe Cersei does that). Did the show touch on the Valonquor(sp?)?.
I honestly don't know how the white walkers arc is going to end, the only thing I can think off is either Jon being a big hero, or the walkers fuck shit up and bring about a battle between Dany and themselves (by invading further south). Then the land is so desolated by that war that Westoros is a wasteland.
Winds of Winter is gonna be gud.
Exactly I mean again the look on Jamie's face when he saw Cersei's coronation. It was not enthusiam but a stern look.Happyninja42 said:
And clearly he would disapprove of the fact that his Uncle Kevan died in the explosion.
And worst of all her actions driven Tommen to Suicide and Jaime has shown to care for him: