Angry mom sends letter to family of autistic child telling them to have him euthanized.
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"often" and "those pressure differences" being the operative words.Father Time said:
It's the main reason why babies start crying after the initial take off.
On the one hand, yes the letter was very inappropriate.
On the other...a mental disability does only go so far to excuse driving everyone else crazy. The kid may not be able to help it, but that still doesn't make it any less annoying and people can only take so much.
On the other...a mental disability does only go so far to excuse driving everyone else crazy. The kid may not be able to help it, but that still doesn't make it any less annoying and people can only take so much.
Hrmmm, okay.
Disclaimer: I can only speak as a Brit living in Britain, so this no way is aimed at the US or Canada or whatever. Each culture has it's merits and it's not so forward thinking aspects.
As someone who has a sibling who is a "low-functioning autistic person" ( no better way to put it ) this does not surprise or upset me.
Simply because this set of opinions is quite endemic even today.
Sure, people have understanding and most people have consciously moved away from locking them up, out of site, out of mind or frankly eugenics but this does not preclude people from having subconscious, automatic reactions when a child with special needs is nearby either audibly or visually. Sure they appreciate that a child with special needs has a right to exist, but not next door. Good Lord No.
So it is quite understandable that someone would have a knee-jerk reaction and almost accidentally blurt out something highly inflammatory, to actually write a letter requires at least some forethought or maybe even afterthought, "Shit, did I write this, Christ, I am a horrible person" and crumple the letter and set fire to it, but still, people.
Autistic individuals who are "low-functioning" are very high in requirements in some capacity or another, emotional, physical and monetary. Often the government (local or national) is unwilling or unable to free up the resources to provide extra capacity to deal with the needs of parents who have the oft unenviable task of caring for someone with a special needs child.
This isn't helped when the local government believes that the best way to "deal with this" is to put autistic/special needs individuals broad-brush, regardless of the chance to actually get anything out of it, into the standard education system. This does no one any favours and increases tensions and frankly can put unsuspecting children and staff at risk. Don't take this as a "lock-em-up" argument, however they require special care, treatment and patience.
This does not just stem to the 9-3:30 ( or your local equivalent ) of school hours, but outside that period too, 24/7, and if a child is constantly wailing, outside of meaning nothing, then there has to be the consideration that care is not being provided by the local authority to assist the parents.
You may be thinking that why should local government ( or national, you pick ) should pay up, why your tax dollars/pounds/yen/bits of bone and shards of wood, should go to providing support for these parents, then you have to consider that no parent got into bed one night and set their reproductive system to "autistic" to get an autistic child and that simply nature took it's course and they got what they got. That they may not be able to provide adequate support for that child, especially as they reach the teenage period of their life.
If it were you who had this child and their behavior proved unmanageable, wouldn't you want help?
And since 2 in 100 children born in the US have autism, it might be you.
I appreciate this may come over as preachy, but I think there is a lot to cover in one angry woman's letter that goes beyond "What an awful woman" and is more an exaggerated megaphone of a culture not yet adapted to the concept of having people around them who do not fulfill their criteria of normalcy.
And I can attest to that, part of the reason I left home at 17 was because I found it very, very difficult to deal with my brother on a daily basis.
Disclaimer: I can only speak as a Brit living in Britain, so this no way is aimed at the US or Canada or whatever. Each culture has it's merits and it's not so forward thinking aspects.
As someone who has a sibling who is a "low-functioning autistic person" ( no better way to put it ) this does not surprise or upset me.
Simply because this set of opinions is quite endemic even today.
Sure, people have understanding and most people have consciously moved away from locking them up, out of site, out of mind or frankly eugenics but this does not preclude people from having subconscious, automatic reactions when a child with special needs is nearby either audibly or visually. Sure they appreciate that a child with special needs has a right to exist, but not next door. Good Lord No.
So it is quite understandable that someone would have a knee-jerk reaction and almost accidentally blurt out something highly inflammatory, to actually write a letter requires at least some forethought or maybe even afterthought, "Shit, did I write this, Christ, I am a horrible person" and crumple the letter and set fire to it, but still, people.
Autistic individuals who are "low-functioning" are very high in requirements in some capacity or another, emotional, physical and monetary. Often the government (local or national) is unwilling or unable to free up the resources to provide extra capacity to deal with the needs of parents who have the oft unenviable task of caring for someone with a special needs child.
This isn't helped when the local government believes that the best way to "deal with this" is to put autistic/special needs individuals broad-brush, regardless of the chance to actually get anything out of it, into the standard education system. This does no one any favours and increases tensions and frankly can put unsuspecting children and staff at risk. Don't take this as a "lock-em-up" argument, however they require special care, treatment and patience.
This does not just stem to the 9-3:30 ( or your local equivalent ) of school hours, but outside that period too, 24/7, and if a child is constantly wailing, outside of meaning nothing, then there has to be the consideration that care is not being provided by the local authority to assist the parents.
You may be thinking that why should local government ( or national, you pick ) should pay up, why your tax dollars/pounds/yen/bits of bone and shards of wood, should go to providing support for these parents, then you have to consider that no parent got into bed one night and set their reproductive system to "autistic" to get an autistic child and that simply nature took it's course and they got what they got. That they may not be able to provide adequate support for that child, especially as they reach the teenage period of their life.
If it were you who had this child and their behavior proved unmanageable, wouldn't you want help?
And since 2 in 100 children born in the US have autism, it might be you.
I appreciate this may come over as preachy, but I think there is a lot to cover in one angry woman's letter that goes beyond "What an awful woman" and is more an exaggerated megaphone of a culture not yet adapted to the concept of having people around them who do not fulfill their criteria of normalcy.
And I can attest to that, part of the reason I left home at 17 was because I found it very, very difficult to deal with my brother on a daily basis.
Humans are cruel animals, very cruel.
On one hand, we have people, capable people, that botched they luck throw in life and due to it were pushed (well, technically they were pushed by us) into comitting crime (say, stole food because they were hungry) when all they needed was just a bit of help from us, more fortunate humans. And what we do to them? We throw them with murderers and rapists to facilities which, few countires aside, do exactly the opposite of what they were created for. They push people that were not quite sure yet into full criminality. We literally destroy their chances at "normal, decent" lives for one mistake which was made under pressure and bad luck and we say they deserve this.
On the other hand, we have people, very unfortunate people, that completely botched their luck throw on birth with critical failure (I'm not particulary talking about the kid from the article, just in general, people beyond help). Due to this they have pretty much no chance for "normal, decent" live unless they roll critical success on life luck throw, though chances for that are rather miserable. Hell, some of them don't even know what is happening around them. And we put them before life of hardship and pain with zero-to-none chance to overcome this and load of self-loathing on the chance they'll actually realize how much trouble and pain they give to people around who take care of them. And in this situation, where it's more merciful to put the bullet in their head instead of making them go through this, we "help" them saying "Hey, look at the bright side, at least you're breathing" like just breathing was the best thing ever (and don't get me even started on people who were unfortunate enough to survive accidents with heavy injuries like say, full body paralyzation where they can effectively only breath). Sure, it's not their fault, but life isn't fair.
And you all hypocrites, ask yourself and answer honsetly. Just how many times did you say or think something along the lines "I'm going to kill you"? No, it wasn't different, it's exactly the same. And putting those thoughts onto paper instead of keeping them to yourself doesn't make her more of monster, or you less. Granted, she should handle it better. Much more effective and constructive way would be to go to the parent and say something like "If you won't stop this child from wailing in xxx seconds, I'm going to kick it until it stops wailing and preferably moving.". Or even cut the middle man and go straight to the kicking. But yeah, I'm pretty much on the side of the woman. Though I might be a little biased since all I need is a kid, any kid, no retardation needed, entering my field of vision or just hearing them to make me want to acquaint their faces with the pavement.
Inb4 "Well, you... prick! I guess it would be more merciful to put the bullet in your head?" - yes, it would be. That'd be nice.
On one hand, we have people, capable people, that botched they luck throw in life and due to it were pushed (well, technically they were pushed by us) into comitting crime (say, stole food because they were hungry) when all they needed was just a bit of help from us, more fortunate humans. And what we do to them? We throw them with murderers and rapists to facilities which, few countires aside, do exactly the opposite of what they were created for. They push people that were not quite sure yet into full criminality. We literally destroy their chances at "normal, decent" lives for one mistake which was made under pressure and bad luck and we say they deserve this.
On the other hand, we have people, very unfortunate people, that completely botched their luck throw on birth with critical failure (I'm not particulary talking about the kid from the article, just in general, people beyond help). Due to this they have pretty much no chance for "normal, decent" live unless they roll critical success on life luck throw, though chances for that are rather miserable. Hell, some of them don't even know what is happening around them. And we put them before life of hardship and pain with zero-to-none chance to overcome this and load of self-loathing on the chance they'll actually realize how much trouble and pain they give to people around who take care of them. And in this situation, where it's more merciful to put the bullet in their head instead of making them go through this, we "help" them saying "Hey, look at the bright side, at least you're breathing" like just breathing was the best thing ever (and don't get me even started on people who were unfortunate enough to survive accidents with heavy injuries like say, full body paralyzation where they can effectively only breath). Sure, it's not their fault, but life isn't fair.
And you all hypocrites, ask yourself and answer honsetly. Just how many times did you say or think something along the lines "I'm going to kill you"? No, it wasn't different, it's exactly the same. And putting those thoughts onto paper instead of keeping them to yourself doesn't make her more of monster, or you less. Granted, she should handle it better. Much more effective and constructive way would be to go to the parent and say something like "If you won't stop this child from wailing in xxx seconds, I'm going to kick it until it stops wailing and preferably moving.". Or even cut the middle man and go straight to the kicking. But yeah, I'm pretty much on the side of the woman. Though I might be a little biased since all I need is a kid, any kid, no retardation needed, entering my field of vision or just hearing them to make me want to acquaint their faces with the pavement.
Inb4 "Well, you... prick! I guess it would be more merciful to put the bullet in your head?" - yes, it would be. That'd be nice.
Trying to control a child who's suffering from a fit cause by severe autism is like trying to control a windstorm. They're frantically trying to shut out offending stimuli/communicate a need/expressing distress, but their body keeps getting in the way.Keoul said:
Check Youtube for the mute autistic girl who learned how to type. She gives some pretty sad insights into what she faces daily.
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You know what, random person that apparently typed this letter, that will never see this anyway. As someone who has an autistic brother (although luckily, only "mildly")
Fuck you, you absolutely sickening arsehole of a human being. I would tell you to go kill yourself, but that would be hypocritical considering, so I can only hope that you move away as far as possible from humanity, so that no-one has to put up with whatever stupid, ridiculous shite falls out of the poisonous sewer you call a mouth.
Okay, that felt good to vent.
Fuck you, you absolutely sickening arsehole of a human being. I would tell you to go kill yourself, but that would be hypocritical considering, so I can only hope that you move away as far as possible from humanity, so that no-one has to put up with whatever stupid, ridiculous shite falls out of the poisonous sewer you call a mouth.
Okay, that felt good to vent.
Judging how the community is rallying behind the boy's family and they are looking for the woman so they can take legal action against her. I bet she's in the middle of it pretending to be supportive, since she was so brave in standing up to this, she didn't even own up to doing it.thaluikhain said:
This is just atrocious! Just when I think society is making gains in treating children with exceptionalities as equals, we get idiots like this.
To those who have thought she acted as a frustrated and concerned parent, no concerned mother would ever address a child like that. This is simply a hateful woman who denigrates the human race far more than that autistic boy.
Its pretty sad that some woman wrote this. She obviously has mental issues. What bothers me more is people calling for her to be charged with a crime. She did not threaten anyone. She just wrote a bunch of really mean things to somebody. The day that is a crime is the day I lose faith in freedom of speech.
"It scares the hell out of my normal children!!!!!!!!!
He is a nuisance to everyone and will always be that way!!!!!! Who the hell is going to care for him????????? No employer will hire him, no normal girl is going to marry/love him and you are not going to live forever!!
T]hey should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate it to science. What the hell else good is he to anyone!!!!
You had a retarded kid, deal with it... properly!!!!! What right do you have to do this to hard working people!!!!!!!!!
I don't care if he was being louder than a fucking jet engine. There is never an excuse for that."
I'd like to write this jacka--woman an angry letter about her abuse and rape of the "exclamation" and "question" marks.
He is a nuisance to everyone and will always be that way!!!!!! Who the hell is going to care for him????????? No employer will hire him, no normal girl is going to marry/love him and you are not going to live forever!!
T]hey should take whatever non retarded body parts he possesses and donate it to science. What the hell else good is he to anyone!!!!
You had a retarded kid, deal with it... properly!!!!! What right do you have to do this to hard working people!!!!!!!!!
I don't care if he was being louder than a fucking jet engine. There is never an excuse for that."
I'd like to write this jacka--woman an angry letter about her abuse and rape of the "exclamation" and "question" marks.
After reading a few of the comments, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people weighing in on this have no actual understanding of autistic children and are righting this off as just another kid throwing a regular tantrum, due not to being autistic but because of bad parenting.
Reminds me of gaming. You know, game's cause violence. Because people need something to blame, rather then accept that some things happen without having someone there to point the finger at.
Reminds me of gaming. You know, game's cause violence. Because people need something to blame, rather then accept that some things happen without having someone there to point the finger at.
In the case of severe autism, no, there really isn't any reasoning or way to control them. I live down the road from a severely autistic girl, and last summer her mother accidentally left the front door open for just a few minutes, and in that time the girl simply vanished. They had to keep the door locked all the time because she would just run off. She was nonverbal (she can still make vocalizations, but they aren't specific words), so there's no way shouting for her would work. In fact, she was prone to run away even more if she felt somebody was coming after her. She also never wore shoes (she'd throw a fit if you tried to put them on her), which was a problem because we live around a wooded area so apart from being lost there was a good chance she could step on something and hurt herself. One of my cousins found her an hour and a half later, but that was only after sniffer dogs had been through the area and about 80 miles away a helicopter with a heat-seeking camera had been deployed and was heading our way.Keoul said:
There are a few tricks--autistic people are often prone to sticking to very strict schedules, and they can sometimes be very fixated on certain things (for example, not wearing shoes). So the best you can do is get them on a regular schedule and learn their fixations, and likes and dislikes. But there is a point where it's so severe that there aren't many patterns to be found.
As someone with an older brother that has autism that lady can just fuck right off.
I don't care who the hell she thinks she is, but there's no reason to say shit like that. It's cruel, vile, and show casing what a horrible human being she is. Would it behoove her to ask the kid's parents if everything is okay, or even about autistic behavior? Or would that be too much of a hassle for her? Fuck's sake...
I guess only in our wildest dreams will we ever get to see it.
I don't care who the hell she thinks she is, but there's no reason to say shit like that. It's cruel, vile, and show casing what a horrible human being she is. Would it behoove her to ask the kid's parents if everything is okay, or even about autistic behavior? Or would that be too much of a hassle for her? Fuck's sake...
No, we will never see it.Baron von Blitztank said:
I guess only in our wildest dreams will we ever get to see it.
Took the words out of my mouth. Gotta be a vile and loathsome shit to write a letter to a parent saying you wish his/her kid was dead. This is before even considering the cruelty of saying that to a person with MS caring for a severely autistic child.Higgs303 said:
I mean, fucking god damn, I hate children, but you'd think if a kid was outside screaming a bunch, you'd check in, and see if there's anything you can do maybe. Hope that ***** finds a store to purchase both empathy and earplugs.
No.Garrett said:
Just no. That's just wrong on a basic level.
Ok, lemme just give you a test here:
Quick, don't think about kicking a panda!
Now, I'm guessing you couldn't help but think about kicking a panda, because your brain recognized the words, and the thought crossed your mind. Maybe, maybe not.
Well, if you did, that makes you as evil and wrong as the people that go out and actually kick pandas.
Except it DOESN'T. And the key point here is control.
Controlling our thoughts is a difficult, even impossible business. Controlling our reaction to those thoughts is another different matter. After all, by the time you've thought to yourself that you shouldn't be thinking something, opps! You've already thought it.
If anyone else thought to themselves "Maybe I should write a letter to that family and tell them that their son is better off dead!" I would hope their response to the thought would be "Wait, no, that's a horrible idea, let's NOT do that," And not "Hey, yeah, that's a good one! In fact, I'm gonna go do that right now!" And then go and do it.
Unless you're suggesting that we punish people for things out of their control. Which, considering you're basically suggesting that autistic people are better off dead, despite them maybe not wanting to be...
In which case: Welcome to the Thought Police!