Animé or Western Animation: Which is more artistically diverse?

[Gigaguy64]

Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt ends all art arguments in favor of anime styling.
it combines western Saturday morning cartoon, traditional anime, realistic anime, mo'e, flash, chibi, CG, once did south park's animation, and will sometimes switch to live action for explosions.
I'd link a video but I'm not sure the moderators would allow a show with that many sex jokes.

LOL Im still gonna post it

I freaking LOVE the difference between the Transformation themes.

Panty and Stocking' theme is upbeat and fun.

While Scanty and Kneesock's theme sounds Corrupted and Darker, while still being catchy.
Off topic for a sec...sorry....

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Well of course Western animation is more visually diverse. Bearing in mind the definition of anime (Japanese animation), I'd expect the entire western hemisphere to have more styles of animation than a single small Eastern country.

Then how about we compare Japan one on one with the United States.
I'll start with the States.

Spoiler

And now Japan

Spoiler

On their own, both Japan and The United States are equally diverse. Much of the reason why the whole western animation syndicate seems to gang up on Japan is thanks to Weeaboos running their mouths off. They can't accept that two cultures can be equally diverse, and must therefore stir shit up.

 

[Kimarous]

Manga and Anime have little variation with over emulated art styles.

Spoiler: ORLY?

Truly... NONE of these differ from each other!

 

[The Youth Counselor]

Manga and Anime have little variation with over emulated art styles.

Spoiler: ORLY?

Truly... NONE of these differ from each other!

Sure the line art, coloring, hues, themes, and motions are different. But they all have the same distorted anatomy. If it were still pictures and black and white (as manga is) they would be really hard to tell apart.

 

[Kimarous]

Manga and Anime have little variation with over emulated art styles.

Spoiler: ORLY?

Truly... NONE of these differ from each other!

Sure the line art, coloring, hues, themes, and motions are different. But they all have the same distorted anatomy. If it were still pictures and black and white (as manga is) they would be really hard to tell apart.

Did you even LOOK at them? At all?

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Manga and Anime have little variation with over emulated art styles.

Spoiler: ORLY?

Truly... NONE of these differ from each other!

Sure the line art, coloring, hues, themes, and motions are different. But they all have the same distorted anatomy. If it were still pictures and black and white (as manga is) they would be really hard to tell apart.

Did you even LOOK at them? At all?

I think what he means is that each of these, while vary different, each contain a number of artistic choices which are inherent of the majority of anime. Large eyes, small mouth, minimal nose. These things are immediately noticeable across all anime. Every single show I have seen will contain at least one of these characteristics. They are the tropes which help collectively categorize anime as a medium. As wildly different as the art styles get, one of these three characteristics will cause people to draw comparisons.

 

[Rouse]

japanese people have a way bigger variety of styles and far more complex animations.
I'll only say Ghibli.

I personally haven't seen american animation with detailed backgrounds, but I am a fan of oldschool comics such as lady death, vampirella, heavy metal. It's just the way americans draw sexy chicks, it's more appealing than the huge-breated women in animes that simply look wrong.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

japanese people have a way bigger variety of styles and far more complex animations.
I'll only say Ghibli.

I personally haven't seen american animation with detailed backgrounds, but I am a fan of oldschool comics such as lady death, vampirella, heavy metal. It's just the way americans draw sexy chicks, it's more appealing than the huge-breated women in animes that simply look wrong.

Please enlighten me on the complex animation. Back up that statement.

 

[Weaver]

IMO Western Animation is more diverse.
If you think about it, we can kind of cheat because the western world consists of this:

while Japan is basically it's own country. Yes it is very diverse and cultrually rich, but animation out of South America versus the amazing work the french are doing, are simply going to be very different by nature. Hell, we even get collaborative projects between countries:


I don't think It's Japan's fault, we just have such a giant web of different influences, cultures and environments compared to only one country.

Now this might cause some waves, but I think a lot of people on here are Anime buffs, yet basically think all western animation is essentially Disney and Nickelodeon, and thus never bothered to explore the full gamut of western works out there. This is far from the truth, there is such amazing work being done out of independent studios (and big) all across Europe, Australlia, Canada and even in America. The problem is a lot of this stuff usually flies under the radar as it's advertising budget is non-existent.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

Manga and Anime have little variation with over emulated art styles.

Spoiler: ORLY?

Truly... NONE of these differ from each other!

Sure the line art, coloring, hues, themes, and motions are different. But they all have the same distorted anatomy. If it were still pictures and black and white (as manga is) they would be really hard to tell apart.

Did you even LOOK at them? At all?

Have you looked at a human being? Take a look at the bone structure of a human head, how the eyes are shaped and proportionate in relation to the rest of the head, how the nose is narrow up top and descends down into a wedge that forms little wings.

Now look at the templates of character head and faces you see in all the example you gave me. Did you look at them?

 

[Nfritzappa]

Considering what Pixar has done in the past 15 years, I'm gonna go with western.

 

[Kimarous]

Manga and Anime have little variation with over emulated art styles.

Spoiler: ORLY?

Truly... NONE of these differ from each other!

Sure the line art, coloring, hues, themes, and motions are different. But they all have the same distorted anatomy. If it were still pictures and black and white (as manga is) they would be really hard to tell apart.

Did you even LOOK at them? At all?

Have you looked at a human being? Take a look at the bone structure of a human head, how the eyes are shaped and proportionate in relation to the rest of the head, how the nose is narrow up top and descends down into a wedge that forms little wings.

Now look at the templates of character head and faces you see in all the example you gave me. Did you look at them?

Obviously you didn't. Farewell, brick wall, it's been nice talking to you.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

Well of course Western animation is more visually diverse. Bearing in mind the definition of anime (Japanese animation), I'd expect the entire western hemisphere to have more styles of animation than a single small Eastern country.

Then how about we compare Japan one on one with the United States.
I'll start with the States.

Spoiler

And now Japan

Spoiler

On their own, both Japan and The United States are equally diverse. Much of the reason why the whole western animation syndicate seems to gang up on Japan is thanks to Weeaboos running their mouths off. They can't accept that two cultures can be equally diverse, and must therefore stir shit up.

And? This isn't a comparison between the USA and Japan. It is a comparison between the animation of Japan and all Western countries. Unless I'm shit at geography, the United States is nowhere near the only country in the West, and that was my point to begin with. Comparing animation diversity of an entire hemisphere versus a single country, the hemisphere will probably win.

 

[hinataxemnas]

Anime refers to animations created in the eastern regions of the world.

Western refers to animations created in the western regions of the world.

There is no specific way either of them have to be made. No rules of what makes an animation what.

If, say, Rugrats was made in Japan instead of America it would still be called Anime. Even if not a single thing was changed.

Yes, there are trends in both regions, that is all they are however. To say the Sailor Moon animations defines Anime is like saying Modern Warfare defines All western made video games.

Which is most artistically diverse? Neither of them. Both follow major trends with deviations being made that either die or become the new trend.

I agree with this guy. He seems to have the right idea. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Personally, I find that while I think Eastern Anime is better, neither really deviates much from the formula.

 

[voetballeeuw]

I think I'm going to go with Western animation, not that I'm an expert, it's just my two cents.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Well of course Western animation is more visually diverse. Bearing in mind the definition of anime (Japanese animation), I'd expect the entire western hemisphere to have more styles of animation than a single small Eastern country.

Then how about we compare Japan one on one with the United States.
I'll start with the States.

Spoiler

And now Japan

Spoiler

On their own, both Japan and The United States are equally diverse. Much of the reason why the whole western animation syndicate seems to gang up on Japan is thanks to Weeaboos running their mouths off. They can't accept that two cultures can be equally diverse, and must therefore stir shit up.

And? This isn't a comparison between the USA and Japan. It is a comparison between the animation of Japan and all Western countries. Unless I'm shit at geography, the United States is nowhere near the only country in the West, and that was my point to begin with. Comparing animation diversity of an entire hemisphere versus a single country, the hemisphere will probably win.

That is the point I am trying to make. I am in agreement with you. You said it would be unfair to judge one culture's work against half the planet's, so I narrowed it down to one country against another. I was simultaneously defending your position while also showing that a single culture can produce wildly different variations of animation.

I'm agreeing with you, take it as a compliment.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

Manga and Anime have little variation with over emulated art styles.

Spoiler: ORLY?

Truly... NONE of these differ from each other!

Sure the line art, coloring, hues, themes, and motions are different. But they all have the same distorted anatomy. If it were still pictures and black and white (as manga is) they would be really hard to tell apart.

Did you even LOOK at them? At all?

Have you looked at a human being? Take a look at the bone structure of a human head, how the eyes are shaped and proportionate in relation to the rest of the head, how the nose is narrow up top and descends down into a wedge that forms little wings.

Now look at the templates of character head and faces you see in all the example you gave me. Did you look at them?

Obviously you didn't. Farewell, brick wall, it's been nice talking to you.

See you later thin air!

And yes I looked at all of them, although with the mouse on the scroll bar, as I couldn't take up approximately 16 minutes of my life for their pacing. The anatomy is all still similar, especially around the head. You have a handful of drawing styles which all emphasize lines head sizes summed up as "Japanese style." You have your Chibi characters, your super deformed Q kids, your idealized Shonen characters and etc etc...

 

[Rouse]

japanese people have a way bigger variety of styles and far more complex animations.
I'll only say Ghibli.

I personally haven't seen american animation with detailed backgrounds, but I am a fan of oldschool comics such as lady death, vampirella, heavy metal. It's just the way americans draw sexy chicks, it's more appealing than the huge-breated women in animes that simply look wrong.

Please enlighten me on the complex animation. Back up that statement.

it's mostly personal preferences, if there wasn't Disney first there wouldn't be any Japanese animation now, and they aren't the best animations out there, sad nobody mentioned european animation. But I do prefer watching GITS rather than Cinderella or be it the last Airbender. The way japanese characters move, is the thing I mean by 'animation', very fluent, very not-real life like. they're almost like floating instead of walking, while american animation is aiming to be 'believable' or more real life-like characters. They aren't breaking any rules. I would give as an example Disney's new animation 'Mars needs mums' but that would be just too mean.

Still, in my opinion European> Asian> American. Sorry

 

[Weaver]

japanese people have a way bigger variety of styles and far more complex animations.
I'll only say Ghibli.

I personally haven't seen american animation with detailed backgrounds, but I am a fan of oldschool comics such as lady death, vampirella, heavy metal. It's just the way americans draw sexy chicks, it's more appealing than the huge-breated women in animes that simply look wrong.

Please enlighten me on the complex animation. Back up that statement.

it's mostly personal preferences, if there wasn't Disney first there wouldn't be any Japanese animation now, and they aren't the best animations out there, sad nobody mentioned european animation. But I do prefer watching GITS rather than Cinderella or be it the last Airbender. The way japanese characters move, is the thing I mean by 'animation', very fluent, very not-real life like. they're almost like floating instead of walking, while american animation is aiming to be 'believable' or more real life-like characters. They aren't breaking any rules. I would give as an example Disney's new animation 'Mars needs mums' but that would be just too mean.

Still, in my opinion European> Asian> American. Sorry

The question was WESTERN animation versus Anime.
The western world consists of South America, North America, Western Europe, South Africa and Australlia. In my opinion pitting all animation styles from basically all over the world against anime alone, there is no chance in hell Anime can stand such an assault.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

japanese people have a way bigger variety of styles and far more complex animations.
I'll only say Ghibli.

I personally haven't seen american animation with detailed backgrounds, but I am a fan of oldschool comics such as lady death, vampirella, heavy metal. It's just the way americans draw sexy chicks, it's more appealing than the huge-breated women in animes that simply look wrong.

Please enlighten me on the complex animation. Back up that statement.

it's mostly personal preferences, if there wasn't Disney first there wouldn't be any Japanese animation now, and they aren't the best animations out there, sad nobody mentioned european animation. But I do prefer watching GITS rather than Cinderella or be it the last Airbender. The way japanese characters move, is the thing I mean by 'animation', very fluent, very not-real life like. they're almost like floating instead of walking, while american animation is aiming to be 'believable' or more real life-like characters. They aren't breaking any rules. I would give as an example Disney's new animation 'Mars needs mums' but that would be just too mean.

Still, in my opinion European> Asian> American. Sorry

So its more about character flow then? Okay, fair enough. I just get touchy when someone makes a statement like that without backing it up.
As it stands, I like the more realistic flow of characters. It is the emulation of life that draws me towards Disney related animation. Finding that fine edge to walk that borders between the real and the fantastical. It is the task of taking something as completely improbable as a lion that can enunciate words and making it look believable in the way it moves.