Anime and the Issues We Have With It: Violence

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Remember when I said the US was ok with a heavy violent content and only really beguines to sound the alarm when we start getting into more kinkier material? Well even then parents seem to complain. That said we yet again seem to forget our live action is just as bad.

Human history is covered in blood shed with nearly every society is either based upon a warrior culture such as the Romans , Spartans, and Vikings; or had a warrior class such as Medieval Knights, Japanese Samurai, or Aztec Jaguars. Some of the coolest weapons such as the twin hooks often came from peoples who professed peace (such as the Shoaling monks in this case).

And violence in still too common place today, from the wars that ravage nations, to especially the entertainment industry in any nation. To prove my point, let?s play a little game (you have access to the internet, use it). Now name 10 films that were not about fighting (martial arts, fist fights, aggressive sports, most crime dramas, wars and so on). I?m sure that list isn?t so hard. Now let?s do this again, this time it has no violence period. Not one fight, not one first throw, not one domestic disturbance, not one object thrown at another person. No violence at all. As you can see this severely limits your choices.



So why does anime get singled out? Well it has more to do with the fact the animation has violence in it then the fact the animation is violent. I know that doesn?t make much sense, but work with me here.

Much of the world, it seems, has fallen into an animation age ghetto where we limit our cartoon to children?s fair. Why is this important? Because justifiably we want to limit the amount of violence they see like we want to limit the amount of sensuality they see until they are old enough. Unfortunately parents don?t seem to read warning labels very well, or look at the cover art, and find out too late that it wasn?t meant for little kids. And like sensuality, this bugs parents. There is also the fact that different countries and cultures had different view points on what is acceptable to show to kids from each other.

To give you a good visual, take a look at Naruto. It is clearly aimed at those between 12 and 15, yet to show it on American television it had to be edited to remove some of the blood. Despite being a PG- PG-13 anime, its still edited like hell (funny as DBZ uncut was shown earlier and the Uncut Naruto was nowhere as violent).




That said, I?m still seeing 1000 Ways To Die much earlier than that, so the double standard is showing.

In any case, since the whole world claims to know how destructive violent content has on its youth, why do we show it in our mediums of entertainment? After all, isn?t the battle cry of the moral watch dogs ?Think of the children??

Because conflict is a key component to any story, and violence is the easiest way to get it. Its not the only way, nor is it necessarily the best way, but it is the most fun. It is also the most universal of things, and doesn't get as easily lost in translation. It makes us laugh, cry, angry, excited, and even terrified. It can make a character heroic, attractive, and completely vile. It gives us scale, and a depth of a situation. It also gives us an idea of who the bad guys are, who the good guys, and only rarely is it that we don?t know who to root for.



So what?s the problem with anime and its violent content? Just like with the issue of sensuality and anime, it has something to do with the fact that its animated and therefore most people assume it must be child friendly, despite how mature the intended audience is. Moreover, it?s another case of picking on the foreign thing as any other nation has just as prolific problem with their own content in the live action department.

Tune in next time as I cover the fact that there is a whole culture shock to this.
 

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One Hit Noob said:
saint of m said:
So what?s the problem with anime and its violent content? Just like with the issue of sensuality and anime, it has something to do with the fact that its animated and therefore most people assume it must be child friendly, despite how mature the intended audience is. Moreover, it?s another case of picking on the foreign thing as any other nation has just as prolific problem with their own content in the live action department.
This, every time I watch anime, they say cartoons are for kids. And they watch shows like Futurama and Family Guy with no regret. Thus I play with their system 32 for revenge.
QFT. I completely agree with the TC's statement as well. Stuff like Elfen Lied? Wow. I'm not surprised it's been banned in the US, but nobody realizes that our non-animated shows are just as bad or worsen than even the worst animes.
 

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Ice Car said:
One Hit Noob said:
saint of m said:
So what?s the problem with anime and its violent content? Just like with the issue of sensuality and anime, it has something to do with the fact that its animated and therefore most people assume it must be child friendly, despite how mature the intended audience is. Moreover, it?s another case of picking on the foreign thing as any other nation has just as prolific problem with their own content in the live action department.
This, every time I watch anime, they say cartoons are for kids. And they watch shows like Futurama and Family Guy with no regret. Thus I play with their system 32 for revenge.
QFT. I completely agree with the TC's statement as well. Stuff like Elfen Lied? Wow. I'm not surprised it's been banned in the US, but nobody realizes that our non-animated shows are just as bad or worsen than even the worst animes.
Elfin Leid got banned? Its been dubbed and everything too. Oh well, I'm not missing much.

Thanks for the comments. Like with sensuality, I wanted to bring up the double standards we have with violence.
 

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Wait people banned Elfen Lied? What noobzors!

As for the "Anime is for kids" thing... I raise Higurashi No Naku Kuro Ni... Try saying that's for kids
 

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Undoubtedly true that for a large part it's more the form of the medium clashing with people's expectations than the actual content which generates controversy.

Haven't heard anything about a US ban on Elfen Lied, but I wouldn't be too surprised; if more for the excessive partial underage nudity in it than the ultraviolence.
 

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Ice Car said:
Stuff like Elfen Lied? Wow. I'm not surprised it's been banned in the US
Uhhh.... what? I know the series was not allowed to be shown on TV because it'd have to be edited too much to meet guidelines, but a ban on the series itself is something I seriously doubt.

Source or it didn't happen.

On topic: Another good look at anime you've done here, and I'm inclined to agree with you that the violence in anime is only considered bad because it's animated. Looking forward to your next piece.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Wait people banned Elfen Lied? What noobzors!

As for the "Anime is for kids" thing... I raise Higurashi No Naku Kuro Ni... Try saying that's for kids
Can I beat that with Mnemosyne?

Basicly to people anime = cartoon. cartoons for kids, no fighty or no likey.
 

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Steppin Razor said:
Ice Car said:
Stuff like Elfen Lied? Wow. I'm not surprised it's been banned in the US
Uhhh.... what? I know the series was not allowed to be shown on TV because it'd have to be edited too much to meet guidelines, but a ban on the series itself is something I seriously doubt.

Source or it didn't happen.

On topic: Another good look at anime you've done here, and I'm inclined to agree with you that the violence in anime is only considered bad because it's animated. Looking forward to your next piece.
I'm pretty sure sale of the manga and showing the anime on TV has been banned. Then again, wiki isn't exactly a reliable source.
 

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Hell, even going back to kinky sex... and violence simultaneously... ever watch a Lifetime special or a crime drama show? Yeah... rape-rapeity-rape-rape-rape tends to be a good portion of the dialog.
 

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I'm pretty sure sale of the manga and showing the anime on TV has been banned. Then again, wiki isn't exactly a reliable source.
The manga hasn't been translated into English.
 

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Its primarily for what has been said already, cartoons is percieved as kids only. if I look at info for Family Guy or South Park on Fios? It is labelled as Children....wow. (I doubt this is just Fios that does this)
 

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I don't really think that violence is that much of an issue anymore for many people, regarding anime. It used to be back in the 80's and early 90's with the majority of popular anime being post-apocalyptic cyberpunk. And those anime did have rather messed up violence because, as I said before in your previous anime issues thread; Animation is bound by nothing but the human imagination.

But these days I don't think people associate anime as much with violence anymore.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Wait people banned Elfen Lied? What noobzors!

As for the "Anime is for kids" thing... I raise Higurashi No Naku Kuro Ni... Try saying that's for kids
Can I beat that with Mnemosyne?

Basicly to people anime = cartoon. cartoons for kids, no fighty or no likey.
Whooo, Mnemosyne. I tried to show the first episode to a friend, not remembering it very well, and I started out claiming "it's not so bad!" but then I was constantly saying "ooh, yeah, the chains bit... um" and apologizing to her, which she found almost as hilarious as the rapey bloodsplosions themselves.

But a good anime for kids is Now and Then, Here and There! I mean, most of the characters are kids; surely that sounds alright, parents? How bad could a show about a lot of child soldiers ren be? >:D
 

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Its funny to see how people are reacting to the violence in anime, when the animated shows of yesteryear were almost as bad except for maybe one or two details. Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes, and any Tex Avery cartoon or cartoons of other animators of the time where just as bad, in not only violence (minus the blood) but also in things like sensuality (minus any major scenes of nudity). I mean look at the infamous bugs and daffy cartoon with the "Duck Season, Rabbit Season" argument.(i forgot the name of the episode XP). With How many times Daffy gets shot in the face, it makes the likes of Naruto and DBZ seem tame at times. And then at the end of it they got to hunt Elmer Fudd. Tell me we didnt have way more violent cartoons after watching something like that.
 

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yeah, I forgot about the olden cartoons. The level of violence in Tom and Jerry, Loony Toons, and even Disney's Silly Simphanies makes me wonder how the baby boom generation is still as large as it is (after all, don't kids mimick what they see like little monkeys : ) )