Anime-Only Arcs

[[Gavo]]

[Gavo], Your problem is that you're watching Dubbed anime. Dubbed always sucks much more than it is Raw or Subbed. What you may not know is that the Bount arc is actually completely filler, because the anime actually outran the manga at that point.

If you look at most of the fillers in that anime series, the Bount arc is the best. When I first saw it, i knew something was off, but it IS a great attempt. Trust me, if you were completely up to date on Bleach, and had seen the latest filler arc, you would be pissed...Not only did they cut into the middle of an already existing arc, the arc truly sucks more than any other arc I've seen yet.

Naruto usually adds humor into it's story, and, like I've said, dub makes it worse. If you're watching Dub, then you're in the really really long filler arc now. It's called the filler arc because it went on for a year or two...It sucked. Just wait for some of the fights when shippuden comes out in america...Very awesome, if not too much talking...

But, i'm rambling...If you don't like it, don't watch...No one's forcing you, and you have no reason to watch unless you enjoy the show or story...So...yea..

Good points, I actually was watching the dubbed, then I got tired of waiting, so I switched to subbed for a while, then got bored in general, started watching samurai champloo. I also know that it's a complete filler, but for some reason i don't feel like going waaaaaay ahead...I don't know why. One last point, I watched Naruto a tiny bit (usually hate that stuff) because a friend of mine showed me a really cool fight scene on the 'net, so I'm like "Cool" and watch it on CN. You can tell what happened next.

All in all, I enjoy anime, but for manga bases ones, I usually prefer the manga because American voice acting sucks. Except for Fullmetal Alchemist. I own the whole anime, the movie, and all of the mangas so far, because they are almost completely different.

 

[Sylocat]

I had no idea there were so many others besides me who liked Outlaw Star, I thought I was the only fan on the planet. :-D I should get back to writing that sequel-fic I started years ago.

Anyway, filler episodes are, as have been said, the result of the animation studios producing episodes faster than the manga artist can write them, so eventually the adaptation catches up and has to sit around doing nothing for a while while they wait.

Fullmetal Alchemist had an interesting solution to this: When the anime caught up to the manga, Hiromu Arakawa (the artist) said that instead of making filler episodes, the director should go ahead and write the rest of the anime on his own, making up a different ending. She wanted a different ending so there'd be a reason to see the anime AND read the manga.

 

[Lord Krunk]

words...
AND AT LEAST THEY END IT!

I hate it how Japanese Anime shows go on forever, for about 300 episodes, having about 4 crappy movies, and then end, but then have yet ANOTHER series, generally involving the characters' adventures when they were kids, or as adults, depending on the circumstance.

Why I like the shows I watch.

Slayers just signed on for a fourth series, but each series ENDS. Among several subplots, the three seasons are based around four general conflicts. Each one is resolved by the end of the season (two in the first series).

Maze ends, and ends well. Zone of the Enders is ended in a way they can't do another series. Nadesico added a single movie then ended for good. Those Who Hunts Elves ends in such a way that they COULD do a third season, but never would because it would just repeat the first two.

Sorry, that was me having a rant.

But you do have to admit that a lot of anime goes the way I described.

EDIT: YAY! PRESS JUNKETEER!

 

[SilentHunter7]

Except Outlaw Star, which has the auto-win button.

I used to watch that all the time on Cartoon Network when I was younger. I didn't get most of the story, being 10 or 11 at the time. I just liked the coolness of it all. And it was a fresh change from DBZ, and having 5 minutes until the planet explodes for an entire week's worth of episodes.

 

[Girlysprite]

My first touch with anime was actually DragonballZ. You almost have to respect their ability on how long they can stretch stuff

If you liked the vagueness of the last episodes of Evangelion, try Lain. It's level of vagueness starts at the level of evangelion, and manages to becomes even more confusing. But interesting if you're one for philosophy.

I didn't get to the filler parts of Naruto yet, but I also read the manga, which helps me identify the fillers so I can skip them if it's needed.

I also wonder- has there ever been a movie based on an anime series (which mostl ikely was based on a manga) that has been genuinely good? I know a couple of series that got movie spinoffs, but the best reactions i ever heard of them from others was 'kinda ok' and 'meh'.

edit addition: I was suddenly thinking; maybe they should employ more fanfiction writers for filler arcs. Many of them can write more decent stuff then there's in those fillers, and that's saying something.

 

[N-Sef]

I've stopped watching anime altogether because of this filler nonsense, I just choose to read the manga where I get the original art and the original story and how it was ment to be represented. Sometimes I'd watch a random anime, but only if it's not based on a manga or I have some interest in it, like Persona: Trinity Soul. Anime based on long running anime (Naruto, Dragonball Z, Bleach etc etc) are usually poorly directed and are too damn long for no good reason other than making cash.

Girlysprite: The Deathnote, Saikano (She, The Ultimate Weapon), Prince of Tennis, Cromartie High School and Cutey Honey live action films are actually quite good and really enjoyable. They, for the most part, stay true to spirit of the original source material and have actors in them that resemble their anime/manga counterparts (especially Prince of Tennis and Deathnote).

 

[Kovash86]

My first touch with anime was actually DragonballZ. You almost have to respect their ability on how long they can stretch stuff

If you liked the vagueness of the last episodes of Evangelion, try Lain. It's level of vagueness starts at the level of evangelion, and manages to becomes even more confusing. But interesting if you're one for philosophy.

I didn't get to the filler parts of Naruto yet, but I also read the manga, which helps me identify the fillers so I can skip them if it's needed.

I also wonder- has there ever been a movie based on an anime series (which mostl ikely was based on a manga) that has been genuinely good? I know a couple of series that got movie spinoffs, but the best reactions i ever heard of them from others was 'kinda ok' and 'meh'.

edit addition: I was suddenly thinking; maybe they should employ more fanfiction writers for filler arcs. Many of them can write more decent stuff then there's in those fillers, and that's saying something.

First sentence: No you don't, they might make you feel that way but they don't make me feel that.

Last sentence: Appleseed, or Bubblegum crisis you take your pick.

 

[Ultrajoe]

dont get me wrong, i like some anime.

But when i say i watch it dubbed, all my anime obsessed friends go nuts

"Dude, thats stupid, its not the same!"

Really? when i want to glance at text every 3 seconds and listen to japanese voices (yeah ive got a problem with asian voices, they annoy the shit out of me and the female voices all make me want to cut my dick off, its my one prejudice so sue me) Ill watch japans equivalent of the today show and read the scroll bar.

its just inconvenient, and besides and a lot of the dubbing is well done.

forgive this rant, but they form a united front of "you are wrong for your preferences" and here i can vomit personal bile unopposed... seriously, its the internet and no one can stop me. MWAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Geoffrey42]

a lot of the dubbing is well done.

HA

 

[wgreer25]

I have very picky taste when it comes to my anime. I've seen a few episodes of Full Metal and can't get into it. Samuri Champloo was awesome though. I definately like the ones that actually have an ending and are not 100+ episodes long. A few that I have enjoyed.

Gantz
Samuri Champloo
Gilgimesh
Death Note (although I liked the live action better)

Gantz definately had some filler episodes, but overall I enjoyed it. Gilgimesh had an amazing story with great character development.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Trigun does its manga service, especially since the Manga is nigh-unreadable sometimes because of Nightow's INSANE artwork.

 

[GloatingSwine]

a lot of the dubbing is well done.

Very rarely. I don't think I've ever seen dubbed anime that matched the quality of voice acting in western animation.

forgive this rant, but they form a united front of "you are wrong for your preferences"

You are wrong for your preferences, and they are racist. Good enough for you?

 

[Rip_shot]

dont get me wrong, i like some anime.

But when i say i watch it dubbed, all my anime obsessed friends go nuts

"Dude, thats stupid, its not the same!"

Really? when i want to glance at text every 3 seconds and listen to japanese voices (yeah ive got a problem with asian voices, they annoy the shit out of me and the female voices all make me want to cut my dick off, its my one prejudice so sue me) Ill watch japans equivalent of the today show and read the scroll bar.

its just inconvenient, and besides and a lot of the dubbing is well done.

forgive this rant, but they form a united front of "you are wrong for your preferences" and here i can vomit personal bile unopposed... seriously, its the internet and no one can stop me. MWAHAHAHAHAHA

Let me clear up afew things, people who suggest you watch subtitles arn't saying it just cause they are anime "elitests" and want you to watch it the "pure" way, its highly suggested to watch good subs for a couple good reasons.

1) americanization! I don't know why american television finds it nessessary to suck culture out of a forein film just so americans can relate to it and make more cash, it sucks the life out of the show and usually dumbs it down, what does this mean for dubs? it means 90% of the japanese jokes (if not all) are changed to lame american jokes so people can make sense of it and alot of other items (including some food items) are renamed again for people to connect instead of people GOD FORBID! become educated about a different culture!

2) Story Changes, yes it happens, in small ways but its there, dubs tend to alter alot of the lines and alot of the story as to dumb it down for audiences,

3) Personality changes, prime example is Naruto, the english dubbed version, though not bad voice wise suffers the first 2 points plus this one, Naruto, for some GOD KNOWS reason, american dubbers find it nessessary to give him the catch phrase "Believe it!" WHAT?!?! never ONCE in the anime subbed version does he say this erritating line yet in the dubbed version its suddenly "his thing"

so this is why people who watch anime hate dubs and perfer subs, and to me, watching anime is showing an interest in japanese culture, if you don't like japanese culture, then why are you watching anime? if the dubs were well done by being accurate to the ACCUAL subbed translation then I wouldnt have a problem, but far to many suffer those problems above causing me to lose respect for dubbed

 

[_Serendipity_]

I've been a big anime fan for years, and I dont mind dubs. I used to object to them when I was a whiney teenager, but out of a sort of 'I-am-an-anime-fan-this-is-what-I-should-say' feeling.

Having said that, all the anime from Shounen Jump (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece) English dubs make my ears bleed, but I object to them because they're shitty dubs, not because they simply are dubs.

On the positive side, Ghost in the Shell and it's associated spin-offs all have excellent dubs, all with the same cast and always to a high quality.