Is the main character a little girl whose parents get turned into pigs? Coz I totally remember something like that when I was like 8.Doug said:
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I'm not a massive fan of anime, and I think it all stems from the first two I watched - Ghost in the Shell, and Urotsukidoji : Legend of the Overfiend.
Ghost in the Shell is, without a doubt, a brilliant film. It's deep, provocative and provides a great deal of insight into the human condition, at least from the minds of the writers. That didn't stop me thinking "The guys all have hoodies that turn them invisible... Why does Kusanagi have to get naked? What the fuck? (assuming this was an issue with anime, I tried manga, and was greeted with a page that actually had the words "FAN SERVICE" on it, and an upskirt shot of one of the characters...)
Urotsukidoji was... Well, the only time someone wasn't getting raped, being penetrated by tentacles or having vaguely penis-shaped tentacles spew "slime" was the menu screen.
I later tried to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion. The first 12 episodes are alright! Then... It gets all philosophical and is less about giant robots blowing up aliens. By Death and Rebirth I had no idea what was going on, even after repeated viewings, people explaining it to me and trips to wikipedia. I still haven't seen End of Evangelion, because I'd like to know what's happening before I go in.
Lastly, I tried Akira. This was alright! I was eventually put off by the guy I was watching it getting all grumpy and huffing about how "they don't make anime like this any more". If that's true, then fuck it.
So... Yeah, there are gamers out there who don't like anime - gimme Western animation with plotlines that are vaguely comprehensible to people without a degree in philosophy and ultraviolence that doesn't involve all the women randomly getting naked any day of the week!
Ghost in the Shell is, without a doubt, a brilliant film. It's deep, provocative and provides a great deal of insight into the human condition, at least from the minds of the writers. That didn't stop me thinking "The guys all have hoodies that turn them invisible... Why does Kusanagi have to get naked? What the fuck? (assuming this was an issue with anime, I tried manga, and was greeted with a page that actually had the words "FAN SERVICE" on it, and an upskirt shot of one of the characters...)
Urotsukidoji was... Well, the only time someone wasn't getting raped, being penetrated by tentacles or having vaguely penis-shaped tentacles spew "slime" was the menu screen.
I later tried to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion. The first 12 episodes are alright! Then... It gets all philosophical and is less about giant robots blowing up aliens. By Death and Rebirth I had no idea what was going on, even after repeated viewings, people explaining it to me and trips to wikipedia. I still haven't seen End of Evangelion, because I'd like to know what's happening before I go in.
Lastly, I tried Akira. This was alright! I was eventually put off by the guy I was watching it getting all grumpy and huffing about how "they don't make anime like this any more". If that's true, then fuck it.
So... Yeah, there are gamers out there who don't like anime - gimme Western animation with plotlines that are vaguely comprehensible to people without a degree in philosophy and ultraviolence that doesn't involve all the women randomly getting naked any day of the week!
As people might have guessed from my Avatars I'm a huge fan of Anime, and I think you're knowledge of as well as view on drawn animations are still a bit old-fashioned:
Drawn animation's aren't necessarily children's entertainment, I've seen drawn animations of more mature subjects like concentration camps in world war II, would you say it is disturbing that these were drawn out in the same fashion shows like Spongebob or mickey mouse were drawn out?
Cartoon's are just animations whose target audience is mainly composed of younger children, Anime does not in general target one demographic group, it most often depends on the Anime itself. Sadly indeed there is a vast majority of people who watch soulless fan-service/sex Anime that kill of any form of entertainment, but there's also a lot of live-action porn out there, personally I prefer to watch Anime that actually has a good story, action, and some good drawing to offer and not just panty shots or people f*cking each other.
The reason that Europeans or United States Citizens don't make porn or mature shows in cartoon style is mainly because the belief still is that simple animation is for kids and live-action for adults, but the question is if it will always stay that way.
Drawn animation's aren't necessarily children's entertainment, I've seen drawn animations of more mature subjects like concentration camps in world war II, would you say it is disturbing that these were drawn out in the same fashion shows like Spongebob or mickey mouse were drawn out?
Cartoon's are just animations whose target audience is mainly composed of younger children, Anime does not in general target one demographic group, it most often depends on the Anime itself. Sadly indeed there is a vast majority of people who watch soulless fan-service/sex Anime that kill of any form of entertainment, but there's also a lot of live-action porn out there, personally I prefer to watch Anime that actually has a good story, action, and some good drawing to offer and not just panty shots or people f*cking each other.
The reason that Europeans or United States Citizens don't make porn or mature shows in cartoon style is mainly because the belief still is that simple animation is for kids and live-action for adults, but the question is if it will always stay that way.
Well its kinda the spirit of this times. I personally Just Cant like Anime (with very very few exceptions, eg Series i watched as a kid like Thundercats, Transformers etc And yes the so much loved/hated Death Note. The only New Anime Series i Could watch without the spontanous urge to vomit. I personally cant stand that flashy stroboscobic idiotic Guy of pure Awesomeness fights bad guy of awesomeness for 20 minutes (animated with 5 pictures , 4 different mouths the famous " ^^ " and a lot of flashlights) kinda thing the popular series are about. Dumb and Boring.
There are for sure some more clever made adult series ( my boss told me something like, The fewer episodes the bigger the chance for quality, Which kinda makes sense to me)
But i just cant stand it.
There are for sure some more clever made adult series ( my boss told me something like, The fewer episodes the bigger the chance for quality, Which kinda makes sense to me)
But i just cant stand it.
hmm, i don't see anime as being cartoony. and i see the fact we barely get any anime on tv as a good thing, all we get oherwise is american-ified shit.
no matter where you are, 90% of people who will watch anime seriously will watch internet fansubs cos otherwise...well, it sucks.
and in response to your question, i don't really know why i love anime, i guess i always have since i was a kid, but i dunno...there are many more watchable anime series than shows we see on tv
i watch tons of anime series, and my tv watching solely consists of the occasional scrubs episode
no matter where you are, 90% of people who will watch anime seriously will watch internet fansubs cos otherwise...well, it sucks.
and in response to your question, i don't really know why i love anime, i guess i always have since i was a kid, but i dunno...there are many more watchable anime series than shows we see on tv
i watch tons of anime series, and my tv watching solely consists of the occasional scrubs episode 
No, you DON'T play videogames to fulfill fantasies real life won't allow. You play videogames because they are a form of entertainment, like movies or music. You watch Anime because it has a way of telling stories and action that common movies don't do. It has nothing to do with watching something because real life won't allow it.Caliostro said:
I LOOOOVE Hellsing OVA.
But generally I'm rather neutral towards it, what I don't like is:
1)That it's omnipresent, you won't find a modern cartoon character that is not a horribly disfigured mutant, which seems quite normal for the standards in anime/manga.
2)Its' fans(not all of course, but the most retarded seem to be the most...active on the internet). This is the only true reason to hate japanese animation. Every single anime fanclub ever I have ever seen usually consisted of Worlds Most Unwanted with so many different kinds of issues, that I could write a book about it.
But generally I'm rather neutral towards it, what I don't like is:
1)That it's omnipresent, you won't find a modern cartoon character that is not a horribly disfigured mutant, which seems quite normal for the standards in anime/manga.
2)Its' fans(not all of course, but the most retarded seem to be the most...active on the internet). This is the only true reason to hate japanese animation. Every single anime fanclub ever I have ever seen usually consisted of Worlds Most Unwanted with so many different kinds of issues, that I could write a book about it.
Well,i don't like anime at all.FallenJellyDoughnut said:
Come to think of it,this would be awesome.FallenJellyDoughnut said:
In seriousness,Tom & Jerry is also rather violent cartoon. So are Looney Tunes. So is every single thing they show on Adult Swim. Yes,ludicrous cartoon violence can be very disturbing,but it also can be rather hilarious.
Personaly,i find humans being exploded in a shower of gibs and blood much more acceptable than when a canary throws a cat under an incoming train. It's probably because animals are easier to sympathize with.
You're not the only one. I loved anime when I found it during the late 90's, back when it was clever and innovative. Then pokemon/ digimon and the internet destroyed it. It became too popular, so whilst before only the good animes treakled it to the west, the floodgate opened allowing all the crap anime to pour in.FallenJellyDoughnut said:
And then there's the anime porn you could find on the net. Yes, many animes were pornographic before, but the net just threw it sky high.
Animes now have no decent stories or ideas. Even the creators of Evangelion are saying how banel the industry has become.
Yes... wait, you must only be 13 or so, right? That was only out about 5 years back.FallenJellyDoughnut said:
I agree.Nihilism_Is_Bliss said:
The only anime on tv where I live is Naruto on Jetix, and Cowboy Bebop which is shown at 4am(!) on Showcase.
TV Tropes wants a word with the OP [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnimationAgeGhetto].
Actually, I always saw this forum as rather harsh on anime. The recent anime thread surge is just an odd occurrence.
As for why I like anime, I like some of the tropes, the art style, and that it's generally where you find story-based animation with an ongoing plot (not that western animation can't, just look at the TV Tropes link). I've also developed a fondness for its internet fandom; a lot of the interesting things I find online tend to involve anime somehow.
Actually, I always saw this forum as rather harsh on anime. The recent anime thread surge is just an odd occurrence.
As for why I like anime, I like some of the tropes, the art style, and that it's generally where you find story-based animation with an ongoing plot (not that western animation can't, just look at the TV Tropes link). I've also developed a fondness for its internet fandom; a lot of the interesting things I find online tend to involve anime somehow.
Thank you for not making the common mistake of calling it a genre.Tenrin said:
I like it because despite everything it's rarely as asinine as western television, case in point: any television show marketing to teens and tweens, also, Gray's Anatomy, I fucking hate the show. I've hated anime before too, but even with the dubbing and occasional flamboyantcy(flamboyant does NOT mean gay, look it up) it still makes up for it having some characters I can sympathise with or are at least 3 dimensional;the shy, innocent little orphan girl with a guilt complex will, at one point, have her background fleshed out. Some plots that are reasonably well though out even dreadful premises are made to work by those crazy Japs, I will give them that much (then again they have wasted great premises, I'm looking at you Shattered Angels). Oh, and mecha, I'm not particularly picky about the size, the comparatively small little things of AppleSeed were no less awesome the the gargantuans of Gundam.
I'm such a nerd....
I'm such a nerd....
Ok.HUBILUB said:
Why do you play a videogame about shooting people or driving a car at 100 mph down oncoming traffic instead of doing it in real life? What was the last game you saw and loved that perfectly replicated real life down to every detail?
Check-mate.
I play videogames because it's fun. Videogames are NOTHING like real life except the concept of shooting people, in videogames you're just pressing buttons. It's a blend of graphics, gameplay and story that creates an immersion set to distract you from that fact, it's not a simulation for killing people.Caliostro said:
If you say "I want to shoot people, but I can't so instead I'll do it in a videogame because that will satisfy my urge to kill" then you probably have a mental condition.
It's fun to shoot people IN A VIDEO GAME, it's fun to drive 100 mph IN A VIDEO GAME. They are not things I would consider fun in real life. Videogames makes things like shooting people fun through its simplicity.
We all play videogames because they are fun. If I play a shooter with really crappy controls, I would hate that game, even if it would be the most realistic game ever made. If you say that you play videogames to fulfill fantasies real life won't allow, then you're basically saying that you would play any kind of game, no matter how shitty it was in gameplay, as long as it had good graphics and guns.
We play games because they are fun. A game can be fun without fulfilling fantasies real life won't allow, but a game that fulfills your fantasies can still be bad. Hence, the description of playing games because they fulfill fantasies is faulty.