Anime, what a horrid little thing you've become.

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Jagdedge

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Why has no one mentioned Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann when discussing good anime? The people behind NGE and FLCL combine to make one of the best anime series I've seen. This show is also the place of birth for probably the manliest man to ever be conceived. I can't stand most anime. I can watch Cowboy Bebop, FLCL, TTGL, G Gundam, a little Death Note, and maybe a little bit of Bleach. I can't stomach stuff like NGE (Neon Genesis Evangelon) due to it being, or trying to be, too deep. It was alright until it started rounding the final turn towards the finish line. It just... I don't know. I just hated it.

There's always going to be some person out there who likes whatever is shoved out there. Whether it be an anime about four high school girls just talking, I'm looking at you Lucky Star, or two emus taking a vicious dump, somebody is going to watch it.
 

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Piorn said:
There is something that bothers me for some time now:
What is angst? Especially when someone talks about anime,the characters are called "angsty".
[sarcasm] It's the popular thing to call anything that involves drama and emotions, especially when it involves teenagers and/or comes from japan. Everyone else is doing it, why don't you? [/sarcasm]

In seriousness, I see the word "angst" as usually being used to refer to media that is overly dramatic and emotional. It's usually coupled with the word "teen", as we all know how our hormones and emotions went out of control during our teen years. Oh, wait, that was more sarcasm...

Rain, this is more of a big rant than a review, persay. While you did get several laughs out of me, you certainly seemed to go on how most anime is just nonsensical, softcore porn than a enjoyable media (which WOULD be considered an enjoyable media for some people). Of course, maybe I'm thinking too seriously on this..
 

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thebobmaster said:
That's what I meant. Still, Trigun should have, and could have, gone for more than half a season.
Half a season? It was a 26-episode arc. As far as I know, that's a full season. To second L.B. Jeffries's comment, that's one of the things I like, and consider (somewhat) a hallmark of a quality anime. Set, pre-defined story arc, that isn't dragged out into the 100's of episodes for the sake of filling time (and selling merch). Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Samurai Champloo: these are my exemplars of how to do it right.

@Piorn: [a href=http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=angst]Angst[/a]
I don't know that the linked really covers all of the connotations of the word, but it provides the general idea. Often results in unnecessary (and subsequently empty) drama. If you are, or have ever been, a teenager, you have probably experienced it.
 

The Sorrow

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L's my favorite fictional character of all time, so I had to work something in there.

Anyway, I have to respectfully disagree with naming Kamina the manliest, Jagdedge. Berserk's Guts is the manliest, possibly tied with Hellsing's Alucard.
 

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I don't get the point of PurpleRain's rant. There is a lot of different kind of anime and his friend obviously likes stuff he doesn't. Tastes differ. End of story.
 

Jagdedge

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The Sorrow said:
L's my favorite fictional character of all time, so I had to work something in there.

Anyway, I have to respectfully disagree with naming Kamina the manliest, Jagdedge. Berserk's Guts is the manliest, possibly tied with Hellsing's Alucard.
The thing is, you have to die a manly death in order to even qualify for the manliest being in exsistence. Punching a kid in the face, having the obligatory hot girl waiting for your tender loving, killing upwards of twenty people in giant mechs, and then killing their General, all while sustaining injuries resulting from a giant laser to the chest and a glaive 20 times your size being stabbed into your back are all awesome and manly things, and all things that made up his death sequence. Kamina was the embodiement of everything GAR.
 

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Anime has way too much angst. I dont know why people find it enjoyable. It just annoys the crap out of me.
 

ayoama

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As many already pointed out, basically it all boils down to Sturgeon's Law and your friend being a bit of a pervert. So, here are some good titles to cheer you up:
- the already cited Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Paranoia Agent, Ghost in the Shell,
- a cute little movie called Toki wo Kakeru Shojo,
- everything related to Satoshi Kon,
- Gankutsuou, a series based on the Count of Montecristo,
- Excel Saga, an anime which excels (pun not intended) in making fun of anime's clichés,
- Noir, a good anime series made a few years ago.
There you are; those should give you months of joy.
 

KefZ_X

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Anime isnt so bad Coyboy Bepop is the best anime Ive ever seen, Neon Gensis Evangelion is also worth watching (untill ep 20) then it goes all psychological and I couldn't follow differnt story with Henti I stay away from that.
 

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The Sorrow said:
I read manga mostly, but I have discovered the two greatest short series(es) of anime ever:
FLCL: Messed up, unbelievable, hilarious, it's got it all.
Elfen Lied: Just watch it. If you're squeamish about blood and nudity, sucks to be you, but it's got one of the best stories I've ever seen.
I agree completely. The only thing about elfen lied that pisses me off though is the ending song. You just finished watching a deeply disturbed girl with invisible hands brutally murder or maim like 17 people and then this happy jpop theme comes on. It's just about the most inappropriate choice of song I've ever heard. Doesn't stop the story from being superb, though.
 

The Sorrow

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Jagdedge said:
The Sorrow said:
L's my favorite fictional character of all time, so I had to work something in there.

Anyway, I have to respectfully disagree with naming Kamina the manliest, Jagdedge. Berserk's Guts is the manliest, possibly tied with Hellsing's Alucard.
The thing is, you have to die a manly death in order to even qualify for the manliest being in exsistence. Punching a kid in the face, having the obligatory hot girl waiting for your tender loving, killing upwards of twenty people in giant mechs, and then killing their General, all while sustaining injuries resulting from a giant laser to the chest and a glaive 20 times your size being stabbed into your back are all awesome and manly things, and all things that made up his death sequence. Kamina was the embodiement of everything GAR.
Counterpoint: You know what it took to kill Alucard? They had to bloody erase him from existence in a paradox. He survived mutilation, decapitation, hundreds of bullet wounds, even crashing an SR-71 into an aircraft carrier's deck.

Guts: Where do I begin? The fact that his sword as more than a foot wide and between 6-7 feet long? The fact that he sliced off his own hand to get it free to protect the woman carrying his child? The fact that he's taken out demons twice his size? That his hand was replaced with a fake one that conceals a cannon? HOW MUCH MANLIER CAN YOU GET?!
 

Jagdedge

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The Sorrow said:
Jagdedge said:
The Sorrow said:
L's my favorite fictional character of all time, so I had to work something in there.

Anyway, I have to respectfully disagree with naming Kamina the manliest, Jagdedge. Berserk's Guts is the manliest, possibly tied with Hellsing's Alucard.
The thing is, you have to die a manly death in order to even qualify for the manliest being in exsistence. Punching a kid in the face, having the obligatory hot girl waiting for your tender loving, killing upwards of twenty people in giant mechs, and then killing their General, all while sustaining injuries resulting from a giant laser to the chest and a glaive 20 times your size being stabbed into your back are all awesome and manly things, and all things that made up his death sequence. Kamina was the embodiement of everything GAR.
Counterpoint: You know what it took to kill Alucard? They had to bloody erase him from existence in a paradox. He survived mutilation, decapitation, hundreds of bullet wounds, even crashing an SR-71 into an aircraft carrier's deck.

Guts: Where do I begin? The fact that his sword as more than a foot wide and between 6-7 feet long? The fact that he sliced off his own hand to get it free to protect the woman carrying his child? The fact that he's taken out demons twice his size? That got his hand replaced with a fake one that conceals a cannon? HOW MUCH MANLIER CAN YOU GET?!
You die a manly death. That's how.
 

The Sorrow

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How is being so unstoppable that they had to erase you from existence not manly? Plus, he stabbed someone with a gun barrel. Now THAT'S manly.

Anyway, somebody should probably warn people about the spoilers contained here.
 

Jagdedge

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The Sorrow said:
How is being so unstoppable that they had to erase you from existence not manly? Plus, he stabbed someone with a gun barrel. Now THAT'S manly.

Anyway, somebody should probably warn people about the spoilers contained here.
He has a frilly collar. Frilly collar =/= Manly.
Heh, I think this conversation is hilarious. Spoiler warnings may be a good thing.