Anime's You Find Overrated
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CowBoy Bebop
It is quirky and different and is sometimes entertaining, but everyone advertised it as Gods gift to anime.
From what I gathered they are just bounty hunters who barley catch anyone or something. I watched up to episode 9, then stopped because it was on youtube and I do not want to risk, get virus' online, I mean get anime online websites.
I like Steve Blum as Spike and the other characters were good it just didn't, do all that much for me.
It is quirky and different and is sometimes entertaining, but everyone advertised it as Gods gift to anime.
From what I gathered they are just bounty hunters who barley catch anyone or something. I watched up to episode 9, then stopped because it was on youtube and I do not want to risk, get virus' online, I mean get anime online websites.
I like Steve Blum as Spike and the other characters were good it just didn't, do all that much for me.
- Death note took the nose dive of the century after "that" happened.
- The melocholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is actually pretty damn awful in general.
- Bleach had a single halfway decent season (the first one), then slowly became unbearable.
- I can't even watch more than ten episodes of Naruto before falling into a coma.
- Dokuro chan is basically a mish mash of over the top death scenes of an anime desperately trying to be funny.
Unfortunately, I came across these series in this specific order. Started with Full Metal Alchemist, an anime I really enjoyed, then went on to death note, whose first half sucked me in. Then everything went to shit and stayed there, which is the reason why I stopped watching anime as a whole. I'm sure there are tons of anime series that are really thought provoking, emotional, deep or whatever, but I don't have a trustworthy source that could point these out for me.
- The melocholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is actually pretty damn awful in general.
- Bleach had a single halfway decent season (the first one), then slowly became unbearable.
- I can't even watch more than ten episodes of Naruto before falling into a coma.
- Dokuro chan is basically a mish mash of over the top death scenes of an anime desperately trying to be funny.
Unfortunately, I came across these series in this specific order. Started with Full Metal Alchemist, an anime I really enjoyed, then went on to death note, whose first half sucked me in. Then everything went to shit and stayed there, which is the reason why I stopped watching anime as a whole. I'm sure there are tons of anime series that are really thought provoking, emotional, deep or whatever, but I don't have a trustworthy source that could point these out for me.
Popular due to the visual novel, really? most people I've seen who know about it have only watched the anime, which is as you say, incredibly mediocre.[Kira Must Die said:
Speaking of which, OT: Fate/Zero. I'm kind of interested of what the anime only watchers of Fate/Stay Night thought of this; I don't see it being anywhere near as captivating without the novel. Kirei's detachedness must be boring without Heaven's Feel. And the fight scenes are so slow and uninteresting; the only servants I feel who could stand a chance against the visual novel's servants are Gilgamesh and Berserker, all the others seem so incredibly weak. Though the music is fantastic, but it's done by Yuki Kajiura, so of course it is. I still love it and squeal at various things (how much I hate kiritsugu, where Azoth Sword came from, et cetera), I just think that without the context of Heaven's Feel it isn't anywhere near as good, and thus overrated by everyone else.
Though I could be wrong, I can't watch more than 2 minutes of the anime at a time without giving myself a concussion at how much they got/did wrong, so maybe the context is there. Not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing.
Also, every shonen (but that's my great dislike of them coming in), with special mention to Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and Blue Exorcist. They were not the equivalent of the second coming as christ as I was led to believe, I thought they were alright and mediocre respectively, from what I could watch. Death Note was perfect until you know when, and after it was finished playing in its own mess it didn't really come out properly. If Near was the criminal and Mello was the detective, it would of been really enjoyable, instead of just... repetitive.
And screw Endless Eight. I was watching that show when it was airing, and having to come back every week to that... mess. I was enjoying TMOHS, why did you take that from me world?
Yeah, gotta sound in with the chorus here, Bleach went off a fucking cliff. And it got even worse in the anime than in the manga with all the filler. Then again, is it really overrated if the general consensus at this point is that at one point it started sucking?
I still get mild enjoyment out of Naruto's manga. The anime goes at such a snail's pace that I can't stand it in the least. And while I love One Piece, I think that the anime also does drag at spots as well.
I also couldn't get into Fairy Tale. It wasn't even that I thought it was awful, it's that it just didn't interest me.
I still get mild enjoyment out of Naruto's manga. The anime goes at such a snail's pace that I can't stand it in the least. And while I love One Piece, I think that the anime also does drag at spots as well.
I also couldn't get into Fairy Tale. It wasn't even that I thought it was awful, it's that it just didn't interest me.
I will number my discussions of different series so you know where they start.
1. I enjoyed TMOHS as a kind of more interesting slice of life anime.
My attitude to slice of life can be described as an analogy of the 'slice' refering to a slice of cake.
Everyone enjoys cake. There is probably no time where you are hungry and you would say no to cake. But, you are probably going to get more out of something else.
I was so annoyed with the Endless Eight. Mostly with that way it concluded since I was expecting some solution from the idea that "Haruhi must've been tellling us something", and we ended up with a random ending with nothing accomplished. However I enjoyed Kyon's several references to other anime during those episodes.
The movie was my favourite movie. I enjoyed the series for the most part and would say I'm a fan of the series, but the movie just makes everything else feel like a build up to it, because the only downside to the movie is that you have to watch the whole series first. I would have to make someone watch all the episodes and endure the endless eight, just to show them my favourite movie. The movie even brought me to tears.
2. I enjoyed the ending to Death Note. I thought it was great for making sure fangirls of either side would feel satisfied. Death Note was a good series because it wasn't black and white. Usually in a series we presume whom ever to have won to be in the right, or if the villain won, for the creator to bring out the emotions of that moment in a negative way. With the ending there's no defnintive win, showing how neither view will ultimately win, since both sides will continue to exist. If the antagonist won, the show would be over, and we'd have to either experience an ending of "YOUR OPINION IS WRONG!", or an uncomfortable ending that would try to play to Light's redemption from his insanity. If the protagonist simply won and it was over, you'd get the same ending possibilities only reversed. But since it carries on and they both lose, it shows the instability of their moral attitudes. Both ideas will continue to exist, as we see L as the person of more accepted opinion, and we also see that people were quite willing to follow Kira. Unfortunately since most people prefer one character they found it to be awful. I can agree that Mello and Near are weaker, but they added their own dynamic and were necessary for this message.
As for series I find overrated. This will be hard for me to think.
I'd probably say Evangelion. Not because Shinji is whiny, or because it's too pretentious, but because I was just bored after the fifth episode.
I'm one of those people who say to people who find certian characters whiny "Well, I suppose you'd be completely emotionally stable and courageous in this position?". Shinji was ignore by his father, left alone, and then randomly called on to carry the fate of humanity. HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU FEEL AS HIM?
I am aware that whiny characters can be annoying, but you can't say it's not expected.
I like the Rebuild movies though, but they don't even explain why the children have to do it.
I guess Bleach can count. I don't think it's bad. I just got bored around episode 80 something.
I think Akira may be classed as overrated, but that's often defended with "the source material was better". But it just had so many unanswered questions, and the ending didn't even give closure as it ends with a bunch of people saying half sentences. Also, I felt like I may need to watch the end of Evangelion to regain my sanity after watching the end of Akira.
Code Geass R2 had a bad build up to an ending. The ending itself was ok, but the 5 or so episodes leading up to that left so many questions in my head. So...Suzaku joined Lelouch because...reasons?
I don't tend to hate things, or find them overrated as much as I simply get bored of them enough to stop.
1. I enjoyed TMOHS as a kind of more interesting slice of life anime.
My attitude to slice of life can be described as an analogy of the 'slice' refering to a slice of cake.
Everyone enjoys cake. There is probably no time where you are hungry and you would say no to cake. But, you are probably going to get more out of something else.
I was so annoyed with the Endless Eight. Mostly with that way it concluded since I was expecting some solution from the idea that "Haruhi must've been tellling us something", and we ended up with a random ending with nothing accomplished. However I enjoyed Kyon's several references to other anime during those episodes.
The movie was my favourite movie. I enjoyed the series for the most part and would say I'm a fan of the series, but the movie just makes everything else feel like a build up to it, because the only downside to the movie is that you have to watch the whole series first. I would have to make someone watch all the episodes and endure the endless eight, just to show them my favourite movie. The movie even brought me to tears.
2. I enjoyed the ending to Death Note. I thought it was great for making sure fangirls of either side would feel satisfied. Death Note was a good series because it wasn't black and white. Usually in a series we presume whom ever to have won to be in the right, or if the villain won, for the creator to bring out the emotions of that moment in a negative way. With the ending there's no defnintive win, showing how neither view will ultimately win, since both sides will continue to exist. If the antagonist won, the show would be over, and we'd have to either experience an ending of "YOUR OPINION IS WRONG!", or an uncomfortable ending that would try to play to Light's redemption from his insanity. If the protagonist simply won and it was over, you'd get the same ending possibilities only reversed. But since it carries on and they both lose, it shows the instability of their moral attitudes. Both ideas will continue to exist, as we see L as the person of more accepted opinion, and we also see that people were quite willing to follow Kira. Unfortunately since most people prefer one character they found it to be awful. I can agree that Mello and Near are weaker, but they added their own dynamic and were necessary for this message.
As for series I find overrated. This will be hard for me to think.
I'd probably say Evangelion. Not because Shinji is whiny, or because it's too pretentious, but because I was just bored after the fifth episode.
I'm one of those people who say to people who find certian characters whiny "Well, I suppose you'd be completely emotionally stable and courageous in this position?". Shinji was ignore by his father, left alone, and then randomly called on to carry the fate of humanity. HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU FEEL AS HIM?
I am aware that whiny characters can be annoying, but you can't say it's not expected.
I like the Rebuild movies though, but they don't even explain why the children have to do it.
I guess Bleach can count. I don't think it's bad. I just got bored around episode 80 something.
I think Akira may be classed as overrated, but that's often defended with "the source material was better". But it just had so many unanswered questions, and the ending didn't even give closure as it ends with a bunch of people saying half sentences. Also, I felt like I may need to watch the end of Evangelion to regain my sanity after watching the end of Akira.
Code Geass R2 had a bad build up to an ending. The ending itself was ok, but the 5 or so episodes leading up to that left so many questions in my head. So...Suzaku joined Lelouch because...reasons?
I don't tend to hate things, or find them overrated as much as I simply get bored of them enough to stop.
It's hard to pin an actual genre on Akira, because it dips in and out of action, political, boy's adventure, and body horror at random. The movie was structured more like a tour through the chaotic culture of Neo Tokyo, rather than a linear narrative. Otomo made it like this on purpose, because he knew he couldn't encompass everything from the comic in one movie. Therefor the comic feels more personal while the movie feels like a grand, mindbending amalgam.[Kira Must Die said:
Add another log to the Bleach fire. I preferred the modern day stuff to the Feudal Japan stuff. That stuff could have easily been its own original content series, go in a different direction type of deal, but they followed the manga instead.
Death Note. Unless you are a certain British Doctor, it's no fun if God is one of the main characters. Whoever has that book is god... so .... yeah.
Probably the one that will get the most ire, but FLCL. Great animation, Great characters, but I should not need a Spotter's Guide to Japanese Culture to understand 75 percent of your show.
Death Note. Unless you are a certain British Doctor, it's no fun if God is one of the main characters. Whoever has that book is god... so .... yeah.
Probably the one that will get the most ire, but FLCL. Great animation, Great characters, but I should not need a Spotter's Guide to Japanese Culture to understand 75 percent of your show.
Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, Inuyasha, and other animes that drag on forever. And probably animes such as Neon Genesis Evangelionn Sailor Moon and Ranma 1/2.
For me that would probably be Lucky Star.
I watched the first few episodes and I couldn't really get into it for some reason. From what I remember they spent almost half of the first episode talking about which end of a particular food you had to eat off of first.
It's a shame really, I like the art style and Konata seemed interesting. But again, I just couldn't get into it.
I watched the first few episodes and I couldn't really get into it for some reason. From what I remember they spent almost half of the first episode talking about which end of a particular food you had to eat off of first.
It's a shame really, I like the art style and Konata seemed interesting. But again, I just couldn't get into it.
Get ready to be quoted Palademon, it's on like Donkey Kong
I will say in regards to the endless eight that it could of made a good episode maybe event two, but eight? And as you said, it was ultimately pointless. Mind you it does IMHO help explain or at least shed greater lights on the plot of Disappearance.
I disagree with other people though, I think that need to happen. The series need to shake up the status quo. Failure to do that would just make the whole thing silly.
And I was enthralled.
My problem with Evangelion was that this didn't happen, yes emotional realism is a good thing but Shinji was just so passive, so unwilling to act that it was a struggle to watch.
I liked (not loved) the movie but don't you think part of the charm of it and the series at large was Kyon? I fucking love Kyon, I think he is one of the best slice of life protagonists that I have ever seen. And the reason that movie was good was that it is very much his movie, it's pretty intimate about how Kyon's mind works and how he deals with the abnormality of normality and the normality of abnormality?Palademon said:
I will say in regards to the endless eight that it could of made a good episode maybe event two, but eight? And as you said, it was ultimately pointless. Mind you it does IMHO help explain or at least shed greater lights on the plot of Disappearance.
I enjoyed it for other reasons, to me Light was a thug albeit an intelligent one. the ending was really saying to anyone who missed the point that Light wasn't a good or even a good man, he was not only wrong but a dick. So I really liked it for that, it didn't eulogize him or make him out to be a great man but showed quite clearly that he was all talk.
I disagree with other people though, I think that need to happen. The series need to shake up the status quo. Failure to do that would just make the whole thing silly.
See we disagree here. Have you ever watched Linebarrels of Iron/ It's not a great show but it does manage to make an intensely horrid protagonist unwatchable for the first four whole episodes. I mean this guy is foul, he is so self righteous, almost magnificent in his petulance that you can't stop watching. Yet you hate him. Now the show chickens out and redeems him but during those first four episodes it did stand out as doing a very good job of portraying how someone like say MovieBob would be like if they got any sort of real power. A disaster.
And I was enthralled.
My problem with Evangelion was that this didn't happen, yes emotional realism is a good thing but Shinji was just so passive, so unwilling to act that it was a struggle to watch.
See my problem with it is that it became really realy pandering. There was the flying mechas which was pushing it a bit too much for me, then the maid became a ninja and then there was a transforming mecha and it was just so silly. The first season was pretty silly and over the top but IMHO it managed to toe the line expertly. The Second just lost it to sell toys to little boys.
Bleach and Naruto.
I haven't attempted to watch Naruto yet, so I won't judge 100%.
But I did try watching the first 4 episodes of Bleach, and it was a standard, boring "Monster of the week" hack and slash with a high school element. Every time the monster always 'almost' wins and the hero of the day gains an eleventh hour superpower, beats it, and the episode is over. I've seen it a dozen times already, and it's pointless.
For me, Lucky Star seemed to go out of its way to avoid standard anime stereotypes. I loved it.
And it was short, so it didn't outstay its welcome.
I haven't attempted to watch Naruto yet, so I won't judge 100%.
But I did try watching the first 4 episodes of Bleach, and it was a standard, boring "Monster of the week" hack and slash with a high school element. Every time the monster always 'almost' wins and the hero of the day gains an eleventh hour superpower, beats it, and the episode is over. I've seen it a dozen times already, and it's pointless.
That's precisely what drew me into the show. It was so... normal!scorptatious said:
For me, Lucky Star seemed to go out of its way to avoid standard anime stereotypes. I loved it.
And it was short, so it didn't outstay its welcome.
I didn't say it is bad, but c'mon, honestly, it does the same build up to the big villain who terrorises some poor race of civilians (or about to) to a final fair fight with all the characters almost every time. And Luffy yelling out "I'm going to be the Pirate King" is almost as annoying as "believe it" from the terrible Naruto dub.Korten12 said:
I'm happy your quoting was stating your contrary opinion instead of simply telling me I'm wrong. I was a little scared by the first line.370999 said:
The movie was definately about Kyon, and I even thought that after viewing the entire series through his eyes the movie might end up saying the Kyonism theory was right because it was certainly hinting at it. Kyon is definately the interesitng character as he's the every day guy having to respond to the crazy, and it was so sad seeing how his life became empty after a few things changed.
I didn't see the ending to Death Note as solid evidence Light was wrong and evil. I certainly think the entire series shows the descent into madness 'absolute power corrupts absolutely' shows. I think he jumped into too much crazy by the end of the first episode for lots of people to find him relatable. Probably mostly to the point of using the word "God" instead of "greatest power" that he surely would be, and the fact he excluded hismelf from his own rules.
I have not seen Linebarrels of Iron but I understand your point.
I didn't think too much about those thigns in R2. I enjoyed them. Strategy certainly jumped out the window a bit though. It's funny watching the commentary for Code Geass because the creators say that one of their main targets was making a "sexy" show.
No probs.Palademon said:
I think Kyon is one of the better characters from MoHS, I feel he is more complex, like he is always struggling with being pulled one way or the other. Mind you I never really though MoHS has great characters, it had archetypes but they never really felt like people. I really like Nagato but she is one of the most obvious cliches, that of the aloof bookish girl, usually flat chested and small.
Well my thing with Light is that doesn't he start off killing a motorcyclist? Now in the manga I think the guy was just chatting up some girl, but in the anime I think he was being a dick. But to me at least that doesn't justify killing.
Which is part of the thing that annoys me with Death Note, how much it seems to wants to avoid ever having a serious discussion about morality. Yeah the plot has lots of twists but neither Light nor L ever really seemed interested in presenting a serious argument about why they are doing what they are doing. i mean L is only really there because he views it as a challenge to his intellectual abilities rather then there being any overriding moral imperative compelling him to stop Kira. Which comes back to it being a shonen manga but it does mean I deduct points from it. The series Monster does good/evil and wherever it's right to kill to stop an evil man ten times better then Death note ever does, because it attempts to do so.
Death Note is still very watchable though.
I wouldn't recommend Linebarrels of Iron as a show to watch for fun, but you might be interested in just looking at the first four episodes to see if you agree with me. He is a truly horrible protagonist, think the kid from Chronicle but prone to ranting about why he is a "hero of justice". And honestly I think there is a degree of honesty in suggesting that perhaps quite a few otaku would react like that if given a mecha, not going catatonic but rather being drunk on power.
See I really like the first season of Code Geass, it was my first real anime, so I'm quite fond for it and I'm quite a military nerd so I can see why it wouldn't bother you but for me it was really pushing it. While before it was borderline it seemed to be at least partly grounded in reality, but then it became a super robot show which I disliked. I can get what they are saying about sexing it up, Geass was always a bit of a tart when it come to some stuff (Jeremiah please stand up).
I would still maintain that Geass was at least a bit better then Death Note in that it at least attempted to answer it's main theme of wherever it's better to work in an unjust system for legitimacy, or to work outside it to destroy it, when compared to Geass' complete apathy towards it's superficial main theme over if it is right to kill guilty men.