Anon. Op to destroy Norwegian killer Anders Behring Breivik's manifesto

[Kryzantine]

Yeah, the thread title is just begging for attention, and Anon honestly cannot be doing this for anything other than the lulz.

I don't even understand why you would want to censor it. As much as we loathe the massacre of 90 teenagers, the freedom of speech was instituted to protect opinions like Breivik's. If he has an opinion, and people wish to hear it, then they should be able to hear it the way he put it.

If you want to limit his message, just don't publish it.

 

[Grimrider6]

It is definitely censorship. No question about it. I disagree with it and believe it is wrong.

But - seriously who cares? When is the last time anyone ever read a known psychotic's 1500 page 'manifesto' and took it seriously? Crazy people write crazy manifestos. Its been going on forever and no one has ever taken them seriously as a threat before...

Where is the threat here that we need to pull out censorship for? This seems like a misguided attempt by Anon to garner some public support now that the FBI is arresting people. People are already only reading it to laugh at him. What more do you want?

Also, keep in mind that it only takes one person to write up a Op proposal and stick it on pastebin. Then the media can snatch it up and scream ZOMG ANONYMOUS IS DOING STUFF. I have it on good authority that this "Op" is causing a lot of facepalming already. I lol'd.

 

[Jonluw]

Yes, you could see it as censorship (although not carried out by a government agency), but I don't see why keeping a mass-murderer from achieving what he wished with his murders is a bad thing. Even if it involves censorship. He lost his rights the moment he killed those 92 people, I say.

 

[Dogstile]

Yet they're on 4chan praising him as a hero.

And yet, somehow, I doubt you've realised that 4chan is not anon. Why does everyone fuck up that fact.

 

[Jman1236]

Nothing more than a PR stunt, there going after this guy only because he's the most hated guy on the planet right now. Anything to take away Anon's bad boy rep.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

Hmmm, material that could influence murderous intent, mayhem, cultural genocide... Yeah, that's wholesome reading right there. If they delete him and this "work of art" this from existence, that's fine with me.

"To kill an idea is as much a sin as killing a man. For books are not absolutely dead things, but do contain a potency of life in them to be as active as that soul was whose progeny they are; nay, they do preserve as in a vial the purest efficacy and extraction of that living intellect that bred them. I know they are as lively, and as vigorously productive, as those fabulous dragon's teeth; and being sown up and down, may chance to spring up armed men." ~John Milton

This prick singlehandedly censored 93 sources of ideas. I'd say 93 bullets to his head and the erasing of his malicious work is a good start.

 

[Esotera]

And what would be the point of this? Oh wait, censorship.

It's not censorship - they are creating their own manifestos to disguise which is the original. The original still exists online, nothing ethically wrong here.

Bull.

That's still trying to suppress something, it's just a pussy passive aggressive way of doing it.

Just admit it: Anon is full of crap.

I know Anon is full of crap, and that they only do good things by sheer chance. But my point relates to censorship - which is entirely unrelated to how you feel about Anonymous.

Yes, this is a peaceful form of protest; what's wrong about that? Unless the material is copyrighted, then Anon have every right to publish derivative works, and even if it is, I doubt there'll be a lawsuit to enforce the author's intellectual rights. The original is still online to anyone who wants to read it.

There is nothing wrong with what they are doing, legally or ethically.

 

[Kair]

This isn't censorship the real one will still be out there somewhere. Anon just want to destory the ego of this monster.

I think this sounds reasonable.

Another way to destroy his ego is to cancel the celebrations on may 17th. I have always spoken out against nationalist gatherings and attitudes, and even now people do not realize what monsters they are when waving around flags.

 

[Sgt. Dante]

Yet they're on 4chan praising him as a hero.

4Chan =/= Anon.

I'm not surprised that 4chan is behind this guy, but I think anon might actually be onto something good here. Shame that nothing could have been done pre-emptively about this whole fiasco.

 

[SovietPanda]

Just because the post reads "Anonymous suggests" doesnt mean the author adhere's to, understands or even knows what anonymous stands for. I mean if i had some hairbrained idea to go internet vigilante for any reason at all i would release a statement under the name anonymous because it would get so much more attention. This isnt even what anonymous has become, its what it always was, a unifying banner that lets you attack what ever you want and say "it was anonymous, it was all of us we are many blahblahblah". You can cry foul on them for being hypocrites about the freedom of speech thing, but the guy who came up with this plan isnt the guy who claimed the right to free speech as a tenant of anonymous. He's just someone thats smart enough to realize if i claim "anonymous" more people will listen

 

[Sammaul]

Waiting for the first one to Madlib the whole thing.

 

[Ickorus]

And what would be the point of this? Oh wait, censorship.

...I don't know where you got that from. It's actually to destroy his message. How's that censorship? Do you want his message to be spread or something?

What, you serious?

Dude, destroying a message IS censorship. That is literally the dictionary definition of censorship. Like, no I'm serious, that's what it means. To destroy or suppress what someone says or does for some reason, usually political.

What did you THINK censorship meant? Do you think it only applies to things you like? And what's with the 'tude man? "Do you want his message to spread?" Who fucking cares...that's not even a relevant question, and even if it were, if you REALLY don't believe in censorship (as Anon claims...key word, "claim") then the answer would be YES!

But we all know that Anon is not about freedom of speech or information or whatever buzzword they use this week. They're effectively an anarchist cult that worship's memes. They're not even entirely aware, I believe, of who or what Guy Fawkes was--they literally chose him at random from a movie. Is it any wonder then that they claim to be against censorship and yet are practicing the LITERAL DEFINITION of censorship? They probably don't even know what that means...this is what happens when your revolution is organized by thirteen year olds on 4chan Lol.

Pretty much this. Freedom of speech should apply equally and not just to things Anon finds worthy.

Hence why I think Anonymous is ridiculous.

Not to say I don't support them in this regard, everybody should make absolutely sure that this nutjob spends the rest of his life in prison knowing that his attempt at revolution or whatever the hell he was attempting was a total and utter failure.

 

[Ashadow700]

I don't weither I agree with this or not. On one hand, I would very much like to know what was going on in this guy's head, both out of curiosity and hope that maybe we can learn how to prevent this from happening again.
On the other, if he does get out his message then, at the end of the day, he will have achieved what he wanted with this rampage, and it may also trigger other people to similar actions when they see that it is working.
I think I actually have to lean more towards it bieng a good thing that his manifesto would get destroyed, then a bad thing.

 

[cgentero]

People are against this? Since when is satire considered censorship? If it were the 1930's and I released a satirical version of Mein Kampf when Hitler had released his would that be censorship?

 

[Esotera]

WHY THE FUCK. FUCK YOU ANON.

Im going to read that manifesto and I dont give a shit if I have to look around for it. For fucks sake. What the fuck is the motivation behind this? Why stop people from reading it? Because it could have a negative influence on them? The only people that will go right wing after reading a manifesto published by a crazed killer are fucking stupid and cant be helped anyway.

And yes mofos, this is censorship. Censorship covers more than a government banning a video game, but your minds cant seem to comprehend that.

And what would be the point of this? Oh wait, censorship.

It's not censorship - they are creating their own manifestos to disguise which is the original. The original still exists online, nothing ethically wrong here.

Bull.

That's still trying to suppress something, it's just a pussy passive aggressive way of doing it.

Just admit it: Anon is full of crap.

I know Anon is full of crap, and that they only do good things by sheer chance. But my point relates to censorship - which is entirely unrelated to how you feel about Anonymous.

Yes, this is a peaceful form of protest; what's wrong about that? Unless the material is copyrighted, then Anon have every right to publish derivative works, and even if it is, I doubt there'll be a lawsuit to enforce the author's intellectual rights. The original is still online to anyone who wants to read it.

There is nothing wrong with what they are doing, legally or ethically.

Its extremely hypocritical. Hey, we claim to fight censorship, lets censor something! Fuck that. But when I look for reason, wit and intelligence Anon is the last place I look anyway.

Did you actually read the OP's link/my post? They're not censoring anything, they're just obscuring it with their own manifestos so it is harder to find.

Next time you make an argument please provide reasons why you believe this is censorship rather than resorting to an Ad Hominem attack. My mind is perfectly capable of understanding censorship.

 

[EonEire]

To the people who wanted this they already have it and will distribute it to those who want to find it. They will only destroy the one he put up there at best, and confuse people with a false one at worst. But this has generated SO much publicity that attempting to get rid of it just makes people want to find the real one even more. And yes for an "organisation" that seem to fight censorship this is very hypocritical. Only proving that they are self serving and nothing else.

 

[specialk730]

i'd say there's a difference between preventing the publication of potentially embarassing factual information and mocking a psychopath's manifesto by producing tons of spoof versions

 

[Outcast107]

it saddens me that people want to defend this guy's work after what he did.

 

[Dragunai]

Once again Anon presents itself as the Good guy in a situation that people are struggling to understand.

The murderer thinks that he will live on forever because of this document. By taking it and turning it into a joke you effectively destroy him.

He WANTS people to look at it and remember him because like all murderers who do shit like this he has an ego to feed. Make him into a joke and you create a living hell for him.