That you deposited money to Hotz' PayPal account wouldn't make you personally part of anyone's defense or offense, not in the sense that anyone would thereater drag you into court for any purpose. As you do correctly note, that information was sought and would be used solely for the purpose of establishing personal jurisdiction in California. SCEA certainly wouldn't have to go beyond evidence that "X" number of IP addresses in California made deposits to Hotz' PayPal account. End of story.LastGreatBlasphemer said:As far as Paypal goes, Sony may eventually have been ordered by the judge to get those accounts, because as I have stated before, the fact that they donated to his legal fund, they were now a part of the case. You don't get to support someone's defense and not be a part of the issue. And if the majority of the donations were from California had then it would prove that his support is coming from California, thus he would be tried in a California state court house.mjc0961 said:Sony shouldn't have been able to request the info and they shouldn't have been given permission to get it. So I hope they take their protest to the judge's house too, because he should have said "No Sony, you can't have that info, now GTFO of my courtroom."
Sony's intentions weren't the best as far as that went, but legally it was necessary as anyone who gave him money was now part of his defense.
As far as youtube and his web site: Once again, that information is not private. You gave Google plenty of info, and if Sony requests it, it's up to Google what happens. It's legal,and if Google hands info you gave them over to Sony, you can only blame yourself for giving them that information.
Well if they were, would they really target Sony after a few ex-anons got arrested in the UK?brumley53 said:They probably tried but mummy wouldn't let them.Legion said:I wonder if every single member of Anonymous has gotten rid of all of their Sony products including their PS3's and games, as well as TV's and so on?
Somehow I doubt it.
I find it funny that a very large percentage of anonymous is "edgy" 14 year olds who don't even know what they're talking about the other half are the people that were going to use Geohotz stuff to pirate games. either way anonymous doesn't give a shit about anyones "freedom" they just wan't to be able to say "Yeah I was a part of that, Look I was cool and I had power." It's fucking pathetic.
WHOA WHOA WHOA... Whaaaat? They have no authority to do that kind of police action! Even if that information was ordered to be released it is done by order of a judge, and carried out by law enforcement, not a corporation. Corporations are starting to think they can just demand people's personal information from another site by their authority alone? It's an attack on personal liberty to have your information given to private hands for possible lawsuits over what you watch on Youtube and who's defense you donate to.YouTube and PayPal to give up personal information about people who had watched GeoHot's videos or donated money to him,
Sony and paypal demanded to know who watched a video and who donated to him and they got it without any sort involvement from law enforcement or warrants, and you're pissed at anonymous?Dango said:That was just silly, and it made me hate anonymous even more.
No one has the right to know what you're doing until you're suspected of a crime. Then courts can order all sorts of stuff to get information on you. but until that police work starts there's absolutely no reason privacy should be infringed upon.Clankenbeard said:I AM SAYING WORDS!
Most folks really don't care. I don't like that Sony grabbed info from YouTube and PayPal. I don't know how they could, but I guess it's true. Does it affect me? No. Does it set a nasty precedent so that I might not get away with something really bad that I have planned for the future? Not really. Oddly enough, I don't have anything planned.
I find that the people who scream most about the civil liberties of society being infringed upon are those with the most to hide. Play by the rules and nobody has to get snarky.
So, should I write my legal team's phone number in Sharpie? Because I hear that Sony can get my credit card information from that permanent marker purchase.