Anonymous Threatens Fox News Over Occupy Wall Street

[Enslave_All_Elves]

I completely support Anonymous.

I'm beyond giving a shit about any political party or any corporate media outlet. They're all dishonest.

Reap what you sow.

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If I believed Fox News or their typical viewers would stand for anyone's rights but their own I'd defend them. They wouldn't.

 

[Mxrz]

Not really freedom of speech when you are being paid to say it as a part of a propaganda network used to rile the ignorant into supporting your masters.

 

[Soods]

So.. has anything happened yet? My faith in humanity is in a dire need of restoration.

 

[HyenaThePirate]

I was just wondering the same thing, Soods. It's um.. about an hour to midnight here in the U.S. and the Fox News website, channel, and affiliates all seem to be chugging along smoothly.

Of course, one unforseen hitch in the plan is that unfortunately they chose the least busiest news days of the week to attempt their "attack." Even if the servers went down today, who would notice? It's a freaking saturday, nobody is surfing the Fox News website right now.

Well, just like their promise to take down the New York Stock Exchange in support of the Wallstreet protests failed to happen, thus another big fat zero for Anonymous. As someone else said, I think the tiger no longer has teeth for anyone that isn't easy prey.

This stings because with it they lose credibility. Nobody is going to take a threat from them seriously at this rate... soon such things won't even be newsworthy of reporting anymore.

 

[Guardian of Nekops]

Again, it's hardly 'their' fault if nothing happened. There is no 'they.'

I could make a video right now threatening to turn off the Sun, and if I called myself a member of Annonymous then that's what the headline would read, "Annonymous Promises to Produce a Solar Eclipse." However, I would be the only idiot who actually said I would do that.

So I guess what I'm saying is, they're not necessarily incompetent. They are simply letting everyone use their name, and the person who used their name in this instance was incompetent.

Which is, you know, why we have exclusive internet handles, so that we can keep the promises our voices make, but I've touched on that already.

 

[HyenaThePirate]

Again, it's hardly 'their' fault if nothing happened. There is no 'they.'

I could make a video right now threatening to turn off the Sun, and if I called myself a member of Annonymous then that's what the headline would read, "Annonymous Promises to Produce a Solar Eclipse." However, I would be the only idiot who actually said I would do that.

So I guess what I'm saying is, they're not necessarily incompetent. They are simply letting everyone use their name, and the person who used their name in this instance was incompetent.

Which is, you know, why we have exclusive internet handles, so that we can keep the promises our voices make, but I've touched on that already.

What a crock of fantastical sci fi b.s.

"There is no THEY... wooooo!"

There IS a THEY because Anonymous by it's own admission consists of ANY and EVERYONE and there's that whole bit about being LEGION which means that it obviously is more than just ONE individual which BY DEFINITION CAN BE DESCRIBED AS THEY, THEM, THOSE PEOPLE, THAT GROUP, etc..!!

If you made a video promising Anonymous will block out the sun you are SPEAKING FOR that group since you identified yourself WITH that group and since Anonymous loves to play the "We are one" card to the full effect, you would ABSOLUTELY be speaking for them unless THEY came forward and specifically said, "THAT DUDE is not part of nor does he speak for US" Otherwise, Anonymous would consist of one person who openly claimed the monicker solely for his OWN identification.

When I Identify myself as HyenaThePirate, it is with the presumption that I am the ONLY Hyenathepirate, not that there are 20 of us using this name. Really, the absurd lengths people will go to mystify "Anonymous" as something far more magical than they really are borders on the irrational.

Hell, you even referred to them as THEY in your own post... "They're letting anyone use their name.."

Gee.. who is "they?" My word, sometimes I lose much faith in humanity...

It's nice to see people are already doing the damage control though for this recent "failure." The irony however is that ultimately it reveals Anonymous to be far less of a fearful specter than they were once credited with being, unless you're an individual, which makes far easier prey than a major corporation or institution.

 

[Guardian of Nekops]

Hell, you even referred to them as THEY in your own post... "They're letting anyone use their name.."

Gee.. who is "they?" My word, sometimes I lose much faith in humanity...

Obviously, someone came up with the idea to call their group Anonymous, make a logo and a fairly coherent overall image, and have absolutely no membership criteria. As soon as 'they' first announced this plan and let anyone who wanted use the Anonymous voice, there ceased to be a rigidly defined 'they'... the idea got away, and is now out of anyone's ability to control or shut down. But someone started it and let everyone else in, so to speak, and that is the 'they' of which I speak.

The irony however is that ultimately it reveals Anonymous to be far less of a fearful specter than they were once credited with being, unless you're an individual, which makes far easier prey than a major corporation or institution.

Let me rephrase my point... Anonymous has about as much coherence at this point as the fraternity of criminals does, which is... not any, really, at all. You don't even have to 'check in' to be Anonymous. If some criminal holds up your bank at gunpoint and is completely inept about doing so, that says NOTHING about the competence of the next criminal to attempt it. They may wear similar ski masks, but if you decide this new guy is incompetent because the last guy was you're gonna end up dead.

Anonymous cannot be treated as a group in the traditional sense, because it doesn't follow the rules of a group. Nobody's in charge, it isn't working together as one, it isn't even trying to. It's not mystical, it's not particularly impressive, it's just a mask used by people of varying degrees of competence and sanity to further their own ends.

So what I'm saying is, watch out for people in ski masks. Some of them are still scary, and no number of harmless kids putting them on and yelling "Boo!" for a laugh gets rid of those scary ones.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Pardon my intrusion, but perhaps I can try to clarify this a bit.

When I Identify myself as HyenaThePirate, it is with the presumption that I am the ONLY Hyenathepirate, not that there are 20 of us using this name. Really, the absurd lengths people will go to mystify "Anonymous" as something far more magical than they really are borders on the irrational.

It isn't "magical" in the slightest; just nebulous.
Anonymous's "active membership" is rotating and morphing; it's never constant.
A hacker group forms temporarily, pools their resources to a project, executes it, and then that group disbands. Most return to the collective social "pool" of hacktivists for while the heat is on; some just leave to go do their own thing.

Thus, the definition of "They" changes for each job.
This is reflected in their wildly diverse agenda: pranking social websites one moment, hacking national governments next, then tracking down child pornographers like vigilantes a month later.

They have no concrete agenda beyond "Keep the internet free of restriction/regulation", and even that I would call into question given how quickly their "ethics" mutate.

The 'Anonymous' that posts threats and operates today will not be the same 'Anonymous' as tomorrow's (or next month's). This is why when their members get caught (and they HAVE been caught before) it's easy for them to publicly troll back and disavow the loss; there's no central leadership.

 

[HyenaThePirate]

I'm sorry. You can call it nebulous. You can make it analogous to ski masks.

What it IS is ridiculous. Anonymous is not some special idea or a collective of mystical mumbo jumbo shared by blah blah blah... It's a GROUP of people working together for a common goal who identify themselves as part of the same group.

Good enough for me to call them a GROUP and to identify THEM as "Anonymous."
The rest is pretty much wishful thinking b.s. to me. And at the end of the day, a toothless paper tiger that is pretty effective on the street punk level of taking the piss out of individual people with no real way to defend themselves but when put up against a REAL organization with the ability to defend or fight back they might as well be throwing snowballs at people in protest.