Another mediocre game that doesn't deserve the attention (Force Unleashed)

[asinann]

What ever happened to the rule of two?

Vadar was Sidious' apprentice, This kid is Vader's apprentice.

That makes 3 sith.

 

[Cyclomega]

COR 2000 :

Everyone's a critic and everyone's got a chip on their shoulders on the internets.

Everything that's hyped or just announced gets everyone dripping wet from moist and anticipation, and since nnothing yet is the b est next to Chocolate Jesus, it's their duty not to stop giving a shit, nooooooo, but to rant about it OTI just so that people know that incurring their wrath is SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS.

That's not saying said games don't have issues, but emotions take over everything OTI...

 

[COR 2000]

Everyone's a critic and everyone's got a chip on their shoulders on the internets.

Everything that's hyped or just announced gets everyone dripping wet from moist and anticipation, and since nnothing yet is the b est next to Chocolate Jesus, it's their duty not to stop giving a shit, nooooooo, but to rant about it OTI just so that people know that incurring their wrath is SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS.

That's not saying said games don't have issues, but emotions take over everything OTI...

Ahh, well isn't this a surprise? A brain? Well said, Cyclomega. Kudos.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

What ever happened to the rule of two?

Vadar was Sidious' apprentice, This kid is Vader's apprentice.

That makes 3 sith.

Sidious himself broke this rule when he took on both Darth Maul and Darth Tyrannus (Count Dooku) on as apprentice's (at the same time infact, according to Expanded Universe novels), and then played them off of each other. He realized the rule was arbitrary, stupid, and would only result in his apprentice one day becoming powerful enough to usurp him. So instead Sidious said FIE AND FLIMMERY! to all the rules and took on many apprentices- Maul, Tyrranus, and Vader. It could be argued Anakin was partially Sidious' apprentice already due to the senator/supreme chancelors immense influence over him as a father-mentor figure, even if he wasn't directly teaching him the dark arts yet he was influencing his thoughts and attitudes to drive him towards the darkside.

He employed both Maul and Tyranus at the same time, sublty playing them off of each other even though neither was fully aware of the others existance. Then when Maul died, he set his sights on Anakin, and subtly played him and Dooku off of each other during the course of the war (allowing him to completly orchestrate the conflict as he was effectivly controlling both the Republic AND the Seperatist Movement at the same time). Finally culminating in him getting Anakin to kill Dooku when he had outlived his usefulness. Following all of this, Sidious tried to play Luke against Vader in the final movie, planning to replace the damaged Vader (whose potential had been limited by his injuries) with his equally powerful son.

It all comes together when you take it out of Lucas's hands and look at the Expanded universe. I havn't played the game but I wouldn't be suprised if Sidious was aware of Vaders "secret apprentice" the whole time- Sidious was the master of the headfuck and pretty much all of the climactic events leading up to the birth of the Empire were directly affected by his meddling. He even had the Mandalorians exterminated to embitter Jango Fett against the Republic so he could use him for his clone army.

This by the way is why many of us despise George Lucas for constantly dumbing down his creation and driving it into the dirt- when placed in the hands of others they create a universe of Labrynthian plots and Byzantine Politics backdropped against believable and flawed hero's. With laz0r gunz and Energy Swordz.

 

[Danny Ocean]

* The game is short. Oh sorry, I ment "Average Game Length" of 6-8 hours.
* No Multiplayer what so ever
* The game has non-branching storyline. You can't choose between the Dark Side nor Light side
The game is just one linear story from beginning to the end.
* The game has laughable difficulty, and by that I mean you NEVER die and you're given enourmous force powers where you can literally cut an AT-ST (mini walker) in half without breaking a sweat.
* Has a moderate ammount of bugs and glitches to it.

It can do all these things, but can it breakdance?

 

[Amnestic]

It was the animated series.

It was based on Samuel L. Jackson. It's close enough.

 

[matrix3509]

No the problem with TFU is that it was one of the most hyped games since KOTOR. (Mind you KOTOR actually deserves the praise.) Another problem is that it isnt KOTOR 3. EA still didnt take the hint and are doing a KOTOR based MMO, but its not KOTOR 3. And the problem is that the market is so saturated with Star Wars games, that people have less and less patience with games that are just "okay."

 

[COR 2000]

To be honest, it's interesting to see how recent (and partially) disappointing games like Too Human(Score:65/100) and Mercenaries 2(Score:73/100) get excused and pampered, while Force Unleashed(score:72/100... Same as Army of Two and Dark Sector.) Get torn to shreds by EVERYONE. Seriously, what's going on? This is just a wee bit unfair, people. The only reviewers that opened their eyes to this were PLAY magazine.. and Kudos to them.

What are you talking about?

Just how some recent games have been getting decent but not-all-they-were-meant-to-be scores lately and they get forgiven. Force unleashed gets one of those scores and everyone acts like it's the biggest disappointment since Turning Point and Alone in the Dark. This is just getting on my nerves.

 

[Amnestic]

No the problem with TFU is that it was one of the most hyped games since KOTOR. (Mind you KOTOR actually deserves the praise.) Another problem is that it isnt KOTOR 3. EA still didnt take the hint and are doing a KOTOR based MMO, but its not KOTOR 3. And the problem is that the market is so saturated with Star Wars games, that people have less and less patience with games that are just "okay."

Maybe I was unfortunately absent, but I must have missed all of this hype. Beyond the stuff I'd looked for myself, trailers and previews on the net, I barely heard anything about TFU in the months leading up to it.

 

[Emperor Inferno]

To be honest, it's interesting to see how recent (and partially) disappointing games like Too Human(Score:65/100) and Mercenaries 2(Score:73/100) get excused and pampered, while Force Unleashed(score:72/100... Same as Army of Two and Dark Sector.) Get torn to shreds by EVERYONE. Seriously, what's going on? This is just a wee bit unfair, people. The only reviewers that opened their eyes to this were PLAY magazine.. and Kudos to them.

P.S.:Score calculations were received from MetaCritic.

I'll tell you what's going on, people get spoiled on games like KOTOR and Jedi Knight and similar great Star Wars games, so we expect great things from new Star Wars releases. We tear such disappointing games to shreds because they insult the legacy of truly good Star Wars games, and Star Wars itself, a true travesty in the eyes of fans who expect better. And people expected a lot of Army of Two and Darksector because they were great ideas and concepts, but they got fucked up in the process, so people tear such games as these apart as well.

Also, @ Amnestic, yes, you were unfortunately absent to have missed all the TFU hype. There was an article about it in GameInformer magazine over a year before it's release, and in the 1/2 year leading up to it's release, there were four spots on X-Play about it. And there were also about three or four different trailers for it scattered across T.V. screens for several months. LucasArts made a big deal out of it, but apparently they just screwed it away.

 

[Emperor Inferno]

Sidious himself broke this rule when he took on both Darth Maul and Darth Tyrannus (Count Dooku) on as apprentice's (at the same time infact, according to Expanded Universe novels), and then played them off of each other. He realized the rule was arbitrary, stupid, and would only result in his apprentice one day becoming powerful enough to usurp him. So instead Sidious said FIE AND FLIMMERY! to all the rules and took on many apprentices- Maul, Tyrranus, and Vader. It could be argued Anakin was partially Sidious' apprentice already due to the senator/supreme chancelors immense influence over him as a father-mentor figure, even if he wasn't directly teaching him the dark arts yet he was influencing his thoughts and attitudes to drive him towards the darkside.

He employed both Maul and Tyranus at the same time, sublty playing them off of each other even though neither was fully aware of the others existance. Then when Maul died, he set his sights on Anakin, and subtly played him and Dooku off of each other during the course of the war (allowing him to completly orchestrate the conflict as he was effectivly controlling both the Republic AND the Seperatist Movement at the same time). Finally culminating in him getting Anakin to kill Dooku when he had outlived his usefulness. Following all of this, Sidious tried to play Luke against Vader in the final movie, planning to replace the damaged Vader (whose potential had been limited by his injuries) with his equally powerful son.

It all comes together when you take it out of Lucas's hands and look at the Expanded universe. I havn't played the game but I wouldn't be suprised if Sidious was aware of Vaders "secret apprentice" the whole time- Sidious was the master of the headfuck and pretty much all of the climactic events leading up to the birth of the Empire were directly affected by his meddling. He even had the Mandalorians exterminated to embitter Jango Fett against the Republic so he could use him for his clone army.

This by the way is why many of us despise George Lucas for constantly dumbing down his creation and driving it into the dirt- when placed in the hands of others they create a universe of Labrynthian plots and Byzantine Politics backdropped against believable and flawed hero's. With laz0r gunz and Energy Swordz.

Yeah, Sidious pretty much broke all the rules to get what he wanted: power. And I agree with you, Sidious is a genious and the master of manipulation. He probably knew all along. And there's something else I've noticed about Sidious. He's drastically different from the other Sith Lords, at least the ones I know anything about. Where Revan, Malak, the Sith Lord described in KOTOR (you know the one I'm talkin about, in the backstory. He took over just about everything, and it was while fighting the war against him that Revan and Malak found the Star Forge and became corrupted.)Anyway, pretty much every Sith Lord wants power and will do anything to get it. And they all employ the use of military force to actively take over the Republic.

All except Sidious. He took over by way of cunning, genious, and deception, taking over the Republic by being a part of it's ruling body, until that ruling body was under his control. It was after he had most of the power in the Republic that he formed his army. He kept control with that army, but he didn't take over with it. That is how Darth Sidious differs from all the rest.

 

[Cyclomega]

Everyone's a critic and everyone's got a chip on their shoulders on the internets.

Everything that's hyped or just announced gets everyone dripping wet from moist and anticipation, and since nnothing yet is the b est next to Chocolate Jesus, it's their duty not to stop giving a shit, nooooooo, but to rant about it OTI just so that people know that incurring their wrath is SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS.

That's not saying said games don't have issues, but emotions take over everything OTI...

Ahh, well isn't this a surprise? A brain? Well said, Cyclomega. Kudos.

Thanks, but I hope most people know this instinctively.
Just take a look at any given forum, you'll see serious business overflowing, like having an opinion on the retarded and obscure backstory of a retarded and obscure Guilty Gear character literaly drives people to flamewars for no reason...
This applies to everything once it gets OTI, and the worst places for overdramatizing that which does not matter are probably Gaia Online, DeviantArt and LiveJournal (for more infos, read ED). Sad fact, but I'm still having tankerloads of fun with Force Unleashed.

 

[ThaBenMan]

I know that I'm gonna get flamed for this but the GTA games. In MY opinion, they are pathetic excuses for games that do nothing more than make ALL gamers look bad.

What did that have to do with anything?

I think she's saying that she doesn't understand why people are bitching about games like TFU when other, worse (in her opinion) games like GTA are hailed as genius.

 

[M3707ik]

I see what she's saying but GTA iv is a completely different subject. there not even in the same genre. Its like comparing halo to burnout it just doesnt work.

Also because im new to this thread- got to say exalent plot, epic fail on copy/paste gameplay from the Star Wars the revenge of the sith movie game (which also sucked).

 

[Hawgh]

I've now played through TFU, I had fun.
I will play it again later, I fully expect that it will be fun the second time around.
That's more than a lot of games I've played.

Also, I didn't feel that it compared horribly to games which it had nothing to do with, except for it's setting. Well, wadda ya know?