Anthem reviews
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Yeah BioWare is done after this.
Once upon a time they were my favorite developers.
EA can burn in hell for what they've done to BioWare and all the studios they sucked the soul and creativity out of, only to reanimate their corpses to make cheap cash grabs and mobile games(like Dungeon Keeper).
Oh and let's not forget how EA have absolutely wasted the Star Wars license (supposedly BioWare tried many times to make KoTOR 3 happen but EA kept shooting them down).
Once upon a time they were my favorite developers.
EA can burn in hell for what they've done to BioWare and all the studios they sucked the soul and creativity out of, only to reanimate their corpses to make cheap cash grabs and mobile games(like Dungeon Keeper).
Oh and let's not forget how EA have absolutely wasted the Star Wars license (supposedly BioWare tried many times to make KoTOR 3 happen but EA kept shooting them down).
For as much as Bioware is a walking corpse, it would surprise me if EA actually took them behind the shed. Both Mass Effect and Dragon Age are still lucrative properties, and Bioware is still the only studio EA has that can make them.
I mean, let's say they kill off Bioware.. Will they let both ME and DA die too, or will they put another studio on them, and if so, who?
I mean, let's say they kill off Bioware.. Will they let both ME and DA die too, or will they put another studio on them, and if so, who?
Mass effect was made under EA.
Dragon age was made under EA.
Bioware did this to themselves. They had 6 years to make this game. They saw the launch of Destiny. They saw the launch of the division. And recently Atlas and Fallout76.
What, kind of incompetent developers fall in the exact same pitfall of everyone before them?
I hate Ea for the microtransactions and BS business practices but this? This is on bioware. And this is supposed to be their A team.
Dragon age was made under EA.
Bioware did this to themselves. They had 6 years to make this game. They saw the launch of Destiny. They saw the launch of the division. And recently Atlas and Fallout76.
What, kind of incompetent developers fall in the exact same pitfall of everyone before them?
I hate Ea for the microtransactions and BS business practices but this? This is on bioware. And this is supposed to be their A team.
This. Let's not kid ourselves and pretend as if Bioware's problems since 2012 were all due to big bad EA forcing evil monetization onto Bioware. Bioware had its glory days in the decade or so between 1998 (Baldur's Gate) and 2009 (Dragon Age: Origins) and, depending on your feelings on ME2, has been in a quick decline since the release of DA2 at the latest. Bioware's writing nosedived around the release of ME2/DA2 and their latest games have pretty much been lackluster stories with a few standout party members to garner player interest. Their gameplay peaked around ME3 with DA:I and ME:A providing some really padded, barren open worlds and, in the case of DA:I, a near broken UI on PC.Lufia Erim said:
I'm just going to plainly ask the question that's on my mind: Did anyone think it was a good idea to mix the "play with friends"-sensibility of Destiny or the Division with the focus on engaging stories of Prime Era Bioware? Did no one stop to consider the fact that playing with friends tends to involve a bunch of small talk, joking and generally disregarding the plot in favor of talking about what's happening during the weekend? That this runs contrary to the idea of having a deep story told during missions, which the player should pay attention to?
I doubt Anthem is unsalvagable. Destiny and Division were also pretty janky and meager offerings at launch, but both managed to build their reputation by improving the stability and adding content after launch. Anthem is meant to be a Game as Service and if the Service turns out to be good enough, a half-botched launch will not be a problem a year or two from now. But a game that can't decide what it wants to be and never commits fully to either story or gameplay is exactly what I predicted Anthem would be at launch.
He/she's technically right. EA bought Bioware on 10/11/07 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioWare#2000s:_EA_acquisition,_Mass_Effect_and_Dragon_Age]. But the first Mass Effect was released only a month afterward, so I doubt EA had any input. Release dates:Saelune said:
Mass Effect - 11/20/07
Dragon Age: Origins - 11/3/09
I don't think EA's impact was instantaneous. We'll probably never know for sure how it played out, but I think over time EA probably put pressure on Bioware to move away from their winning formula of small, compact, story/character-based games toward massive open world fetch-quest games (to tap into that Skyrim money) and now looter shooter games (to tap into that Destiny money). These types of games were not what Bioware did well, and it has been a disaster.
Throughout that shift, a lot of their best talent left, and the writing and overall quality has really taken a nosedive. So this may be Bioware's A-team, but their current A-team is a shell of what it was 10 years ago. Whether that evacuation of talent can all be blamed on EA or is just coincidental or somewhere in between is up for debate.
EA owned bioware since 2008 what are you talking about. EA is on the box .Saelune said:
Edit:i looked it up. Mass effect 1 was published by microsoft. Mass effect 2 and beyond were published by EA.
Dragon age :Origins , 2 and inquisition were published by EA
Until Respawn inevitably falls out of favor with EA and get dismantled like every other studio EA has gotten their hands on.MrCalavera said:
So... will Bioware become a Force Ghost and lead the New Hope of Respawn to Slay Emperor Arts?
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GOD DAMNIT, I NEED A NEW STAR WARS GAME!!
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GOD DAMNIT, I NEED A NEW STAR WARS GAME!!
Remember the variety of Star Wars game we used to get years ago?ObsidianJones said:
Pick a genre and there was a Star Wars game set in that genre.
I really miss that.
Bioware games at their very best had iffy gameplay and were mostly propped up by their writing. Since ME2 things have been going downhill in the writing AND gameplay. It amazes me that people still expect good games from Bioware.
Yup. And it goes beyond that.Zeraki said:
I loved the idea of the Jade Empire. It was a game that I wanted so desperately to have a sequel or a remaster.
And I said 'Was' because up until this day, I wanted Bioware to continue on.
I don't know if I want that any more. I won't blame Bioware for Anthem totally. We know what EA does, despite what they make companies say. But I don't know if they have the talent to do such a thing any more.
They probably have hired talented designers for Anthem, but you need like-minded designers to make the work you want to see. Do not hire a Drum and Bass Virtuoso like Bungle if you truly want to make a Classical Opera. And while the individual might surprise you, I doubt the entirety of your new hires devoted to a single vision would.
I don't know why anyone expected better. The game looked stupid from the start. It didn't even feel like a Bioware game.
To me it always looked like Mass Effect Andromeda online, but after that game tanked they scrapped it and reused what they could.Adam Jensen said:
I mean, there is still Dragon Age dread wolf rises, which no one knows what it's going to be about.
Given how divisive Inquisition was, I hardly though Bioware will go on any further than that, even if they somehow get through anthem.
Given how divisive Inquisition was, I hardly though Bioware will go on any further than that, even if they somehow get through anthem.
I am... torn.
On the one hand, I can't deny that Anthem is a slog (especially when Faye tells you to do the Trials just to advance the main story), and the always online story just bogs the game down.
On the other hand, I've always appreciated Bioware trying to be inclusive and diverse-friendly. I like how they helped a lesbian couple get married. I like how they have representation in their games.
I just worry that the people criticizing Anthem (which it does deserve, don't misunderstand), don't end up scapegoating the people Bioware tries to appeal to.
On the one hand, I can't deny that Anthem is a slog (especially when Faye tells you to do the Trials just to advance the main story), and the always online story just bogs the game down.
On the other hand, I've always appreciated Bioware trying to be inclusive and diverse-friendly. I like how they helped a lesbian couple get married. I like how they have representation in their games.
I just worry that the people criticizing Anthem (which it does deserve, don't misunderstand), don't end up scapegoating the people Bioware tries to appeal to.