Myrmecodon said:
(that pic personified not so much your feelings in this post, but the very post itself)
I say if gay coupling wear condoms there is no problem.
You call this lies and give examples of gay men living high risk lives.
You know what, STRAIGHT GUYS ALSO have a preference to go without a condom! I know, I am one! I don't though, because my dad had "that chat" about interest in girls and when I was 18 he made sure I had condoms and would use them. I can't imagine many dads having the equivalent gay conversation with their gay son, if they didn't completely disown them.
You can't label someone who is sexually active with many different people as monogamous, to somehow prove that ALL gay monogamy is a farce! You could do the same thing with any straight guy or gal who sleeps around a lot.
And you think it's some news flash that men are mainly interested in sex! Hold the fucking phone! Because I thought the reputation that every time the navy was in port all those pent up sailors were desperate to form a meaningful and committed relationship with the first willing woman they'd find... you know, sing to them, read them poetry while weeping then listen to them talk for FUCKING HOURS about every vapid part of their day OF COURSE BLOODY NOT!
All men, gay and straight are hugely motivated by the physicality of sex and they don't want to use condoms, but public health has changed them. The problem is you are looking at gays ins 1970's and early 1980's like when we first started using asbestos, an early and ignorant time that no longer exists.
Fathers talk with their sons about having relationship with girl, they tell them to use a condom, hell barbers on the weekend would chat about who the young guys asking what floozie they were dating and they'd give them "one for the weekend", a condom. It was integrated and institutionalised into life as a heterosexual to use a condom. And of course women were hugely pressurised into insisting on a condom for multitude of reasons.
But in the previous century this was NOT established with homosexual communities, gay people were ostracised from their homes and communities and with it any sort of advice on sexual health. Now it has been left up to gay organisations themselves and they HAVE pushed the message of condom use and it has worked.
And why would homosexuals have addiction issues? Maybe their parents disowning them? Poor prospects of society recognising any of their relationships? Their religion saying their god will torture them for all eternity when they die, even though they haven't inherently hurt anyone? Maybe it's people like YOU calling them walking time bombs even if they take the same precautions and risks as straight couples.
You give a great long spiel about the very earliest most irresponsible days of the gay community, where no care was taken to appropriately combat infections and diseases. Not as it is today. What you are saying is pre-AIDS the gay community didn't do enough to combat AIDS. Wow. And YOU use the Captain Picard facepalm? You devalue that jpeg.
Realise back then there was the common myth that everything could be treated with vaccines and anti-biotics. A myth many people hold today with every infection except HIV.
Dude, STOP LIVING IN THE PAST! The AIDS crisis rocked the gay community to its core, Condoms are and have been an absolutely integral part of it ever since and you know the single biggest proof of this:
Today, there would not BE a gay community if they didn't widely and consistently use condoms!
If you say that the entire or even a significant part of the gay community is still regularly having unprotected sex, then there wouldn't be any more gay people around, they'd all have died from AIDS. Steven Fry would not be alive, nor would Ian MacKellen, nor John Barrowman, not Anderson Cooper, not Elton John nor Niel Patrick Harris.
Living proof that the Gay "community" has largely shaken up its attitudes and adopted the sexual-health practices that heterosexuals take for granted. They have largely grown out of the fledgeling days of the 1970's where there was not a huge demand for gay marriage, but THERE IS NOW! And you CANNOT keep living 40 years ago when it suit you!