Anti vaccination mom changes mind after kids get rotavirus
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"I've had it with this shit!"
-anti-vaccination mom
Good for her for at least being open minded enough to change her mind. Better late then never. It's still stupid that her children had to suffer, but some parents never change their minds regardless.
-anti-vaccination mom
Good for her for at least being open minded enough to change her mind. Better late then never. It's still stupid that her children had to suffer, but some parents never change their minds regardless.
Yes, I imagine many would change their mind after that. What a shame you couldn't have avoided this mess in the FIRST PLACE!
It's only a good idea until your darling crotch-spawn gets sick. Then you change your mind completely.FalloutJack said:
The schadenfreude in me find this hysterical. The rest of me does too.
(I guess what little paternal instinct I have feels bad for the kids.)
(I guess what little paternal instinct I have feels bad for the kids.)
Its a retrovirus, so its certainly not good. If the kids had been any younger, it probably would have killed them. And even still, they're not out of the woods yet because of the way the virus pulls a Borg on human DNA, it can lead to replication faults, causing cancer.inu-kun said:
Well, good on her for changing her mind... too bad it happened AFTER her kids got sick. All I hope is that more stupid anti-vaxxers wake up and give their kids vaccines before it's too late...
But seriously, fuck the anti-vaccination rhetoric.
But seriously, fuck the anti-vaccination rhetoric.
The thing with pseudo-skeptic conspiracy theorists is that cases like this aren't evidence that their positions are insane, they're evidence of just how coercive the big bad government/mainstream media are. You see it over and over again with second amendment fetishists, Trump apologists, religious fundamentalists, climate change deniers... their positions can only change if something personally affects them and if a fellow conspiracy theorist changes their mind then they have been "brainwashed".
The worst part is that so many of these people have kids. I hope this woman's children will be okay and she works to fix the damage she's caused, often some of the best activists are those who have had their positions forcefully changed due to situations like this. They know the mindset they're fighting against better than anyone.
The worst part is that so many of these people have kids. I hope this woman's children will be okay and she works to fix the damage she's caused, often some of the best activists are those who have had their positions forcefully changed due to situations like this. They know the mindset they're fighting against better than anyone.
This is a very dangerous conspiracist way of thinking. I am glad she managed to finally see through the bullshit. These people are often the best for talking others out of their (usually) well-meaning misunderstandings, by understanding both states of mind and knowing where the thinking process stems from...we are capable of great things through terrible mistakes.
If you want to see a slightly more lighthearted yet ridiculous conspiracist movement... check out the flat-earthers. Yes, it is precisely what it sounds like. These people are real, though harmless as far as I know. Could be wrong. (So. very. paranoid. Though. it's a self parody) But you got to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
If you want to see a slightly more lighthearted yet ridiculous conspiracist movement... check out the flat-earthers. Yes, it is precisely what it sounds like. These people are real, though harmless as far as I know. Could be wrong. (So. very. paranoid. Though. it's a self parody) But you got to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
Hooray! It takes her kids getting sick and suffering a slightly higher rate of cancer to get around to doing the right thing. Given the damage has already been done... I wonder if she'll blame the vaccine then if they do suffer from the side effects of letting such communicable agents rip on their bodies for no reason to begin with?
Can't get too excited over this, people that suffer from their stupid mistakes (or rather, their nearest and dearest do) will tend to regret them, but it's a bit late now.
As mentioned, this won't likely change the minds of other anti-vaxxers.
As mentioned, this won't likely change the minds of other anti-vaxxers.
The general consensus is that it started out as people making fun of the concept that grew due to true believers and now it's a mix of the two groups with no way to actually distinguish between the two.Xsjadoblayde said:If you want to see a slightly more lighthearted yet ridiculous conspiracist movement... check out the flat-earthers. Yes, it is precisely what it sounds like. These people are real, though harmless as far as I know. Could be wrong. (So. very. paranoid. Though. it's a self parody) But you got to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
Personally, I'm not that fond or forgiving of conspiracy theorists. It's not just when they piss in my cereal (look at my profile pic), it's when they call up families who had their kids shot telling them they're horrible liars because they're trying to get their guns taken away. "Vicsims," they're called. Or in this case a scientific consensus, which is a big deal, is irrelevant in the face of true knowledge acquired by people explicitly and proudly not a part of the academic process at all who are able to determine the validity of all the relevant case files and how dishonest and wrong everyone else is. Conspiracy theory thinking has real-world effects in the same way that being woefully ill-informed and proud of it inevitably has real-world effects.
All it took for this person to change their point of view was their children being in harm's way. Even then there's not much stopping them from reaping the benefits now and falling back on old habits later which can also affect other people (and given the subject likely will).
Man, they sound like cunts. I didn't know that. It isn't cool.to do those things. I guess when those theories start effecting others then it becomez a problem. I assumed the thing was mainly harmless, but people gotta be dickz about it. They probably believe they're actually helping too. There is a certain level of paranoia that cannot be reasoned with, these people need science damnit! Some understanding of our existence goes a long way towards not being insufferable idiots.PainInTheAssInternet said:The general consensus is that it started out as people making fun of the concept that grew due to true believers and now it's a mix of the two groups with no way to actually distinguish between the two.Xsjadoblayde said:If you want to see a slightly more lighthearted yet ridiculous conspiracist movement... check out the flat-earthers. Yes, it is precisely what it sounds like. These people are real, though harmless as far as I know. Could be wrong. (So. very. paranoid. Though. it's a self parody) But you got to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
Personally, I'm not that fond or forgiving of conspiracy theorists. It's not just when they piss in my cereal (look at my profile pic), it's when they call up families who had their kids shot telling them they're horrible liars because they're trying to get their guns taken away. "Vicsims," they're called. Or in this case a scientific consensus, which is a big deal, is irrelevant in the face of true knowledge acquired by people explicitly and proudly not a part of the academic process at all who are able to determine the validity of all the relevant case files and how dishonest and wrong everyone else is. Conspiracy theory thinking has real-world effects in the same way that being woefully ill-informed and proud of it inevitably has real-world effects.
All it took for this person to change their point of view was their children being in harm's way. Even then there's not much stopping them from reaping the benefits now and falling back on old habits later which can also affect other people (and given the subject likely will).
Yeah, that's the dilemna. On the one hand, free speech and all, we can't stop these people spreading their lies, only try to respond with reason.Xsjadoblayde said:Man, they sound like cunts. I didn't know that. It isn't cool.to do those things. I guess when those theories start effecting others then it becomez a problem. I assumed the thing was mainly harmless, but people gotta be dickz about it. They probably believe they're actually helping too. There is a certain level of paranoia that cannot be reasoned with, these people need science damnit! Some understanding of our existence goes a long way towards not being insufferable idiots.
On the other, reason won't work on some people, and they will take those ideas to heart and go hurt innocents.
All that pseudo-scientific and paranoid nonsense about vaccines is a dangerous trend. Before it was just a minority of 'religious' nutjobs but now they are also joined at an alarming rate by paranoid conspiracy theorists and people with alternative 'mother nature' lifestyles. You would expect people to have enough common sense to see through the bullshit but enfortunately they garnered enough traction that state vaccination programs faces increasing opposition.
I'm all for free speech but disinformation campaigns like these are extremely dangerous and directly costs lives. You can also argue where one person's 'choice' becomes another person's danger. Not only do these people risk the life of their child but by refusing a vaccine for (potentially lethal) infectious diseases they also create a public health hazard.
I'm all for free speech but disinformation campaigns like these are extremely dangerous and directly costs lives. You can also argue where one person's 'choice' becomes another person's danger. Not only do these people risk the life of their child but by refusing a vaccine for (potentially lethal) infectious diseases they also create a public health hazard.