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CyberSinner

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white_wolf said:
CyberSinner said:
white_wolf said:
CyberSinner said:
white_wolf said:
I can relate OP I was forced off one of my most favorite foods: milk and all the tastiness that goes with it! I got a mystery condition and I was forced off milk as its one of several triggers. I loved cheese, milk, heck loads of things have milk in it even things you never thought of and then you have to find all the hidden words that also are biproducts or new ways of saying milk like whey did you know a "dairy free" coffee creamer may still contain dairy? Heck even some Ramen brands I can't touch! It sucks! Finding dairy free products and cooking is a challenge at times it also doesn't help I'm not a fan of soy the taste isn't to my liking but I'm doing it and learning and thats all its going to be at this point.
When I was doing a research project in my college courses, in my Natural Resource class. My classmates were all dairy drinkers, none of them had a nut allergy thank god, but I did a taste test.

Would you be surprised what got drunk faster? Not the cows milk, which had 2 gallons. But the Almond Milk, which I had 2 gallons of it. By the end of class, I was left with half a gallon and a full gallon of cows milk. No Almond milk, and 2 full gallons of soymilk.

Maybe you should try Almond milk, it has the richness and thickness of dairy milk and even the sweetness. For cooking I suggest, for mash potatos using Oat Milk which is actually really good and has a much more sutble flavor. And for baking I suggest Almond Milk or Coconut milk.

Trust me I have been lactose intolerant all my life and I'll be honest some soymilk is very watery tasting. Almond milk is delicious to drink or bake with, I am the type of person who doesn't like my food to have a weird nutty flavor so I went with Oat milk for my mash potatos and any regular cooking. Coconut milk I like to bake with.

Talking about baking. I have a lot of eggless, dairy free baking goods.

@Random Argument Man: Thanks for the link, a lot of those recipes look tasty. But I am just one guy with no life, and I tend to shy away from recipes that say "serves 4" because I am 1 person. And prefer not to have leftovers.
Haven't tried oat flavored in my area I've never seen it but I have tried out regular almond and I really don't like it maybe if I bake with it. Right now the least food altering one I've tried and can live with is rice milk but I've got to be very picky about what I'll bake/cook with it as it can be a huge guessing game. Coconut works well enough for ice cream but since you might know alot better then me I read I could use fat canned coconut milk to substitute for heavy cream have you tired that does it really work? I have a lot of soups I gave up on because it needs that ingredient. With my area they don't have alot of vegan or dairyfree items even when they're stated right on the box to be dairy free (like creamers) I have to go over it all carefully I'm looking into ordering foods via online right now but I'm worried about the items reaching me in a good state as they keep stating on the sites I need to cold pack them because the trucks they ship in aren't refrigerated.

Coconut milk in the can works as a creamer. If you season it right, I suppose it can be used for regular old cooking. Here is basically what I use and by no ways do I have a lot of money. I am actually currently unemployed, but I refuse to have a break out or go back to my old ways. I am currently on Foodstamps, please let's not start any arguments about that because it just upsets me, and they cut the Foodstamps quite aways away. Even though I have told them I am unemployed they are currently giving me only 18 dollars. But when I can.


Baking Milk Alternatives:

-Almond Milk or Coconut Milk or even Coconut Cream in the can

Cooking Milk Alternatives:

-Oat Milk
-Soymilk

^Both Oat and Soy are mild in flavor so I use it for every other recipe. Like if I am making alfredo or something.

Drinking Milk Alternative:

-I never really was a big "milk" drinker. I was born lactose intolerant all my life, so soymilk has always never been very tasty. But if I am going to drink "milk" I go for

Almond Milk, flavored kinds, chocolate or vanilla, and I recently discovered frequen Strawberry yummm

Coconut Milk, flavored, but I just kind of only like chocolate

Soymilk, flavored, but once again chocolate hahahaa

Oh and talking about my Alfredo, you won't believe that I do not use butter or heavy cream. Some of my omnivore visitors, because to be quite frank I am a the Token Icon NEET, always compliment me on it and ask my secret. I never tell them, but I'll tell you guys.

So my Alfredo calls for:

-Soymilk or Oat Milk
-Hummus Garlic or any variant like Spinach or Avacado
-Nutrional Yeast
-Secret seasonings that I won't tell you [garlic powder, onion powder, etc.]


It always turns out delicious.

Oh also another trick. If you're using a meatless meat, if you want to get some smokey flavors into it try these techniques:

-Use a Steak Rub in groundless beef or seitan chunks for beef
-For seitan chunks for Pork use Bacon Salt
-For seitan chunks for chicken use a Vegetable Bouillon or Poultry Seasoning
Thanks for the tips! I was trying to find an Alfredo that didn't have the nuts in it!
Hummus is a good alternative for a lot of creamy style soups and pasta sauces. Because it has the texture and creaminess of cream or butter, but doesn't necessarily need them to make a decent tasting meal.
 

Lethos

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I eat a lot of meat. Id say in the UK it must be very hard to avoid eating meat.
Why do you think that? I guess if you only ever ate traditional British food then you might run into a bit of trouble, but no one I know does that (I personally can't stand British food...)

I'm not a vegetarian, but I only tend to eat meat around once a week. Even then it tends to be fish rather than land meat. I could probably become full vegetarian if I really wanted, but I really enjoy the taste of seafood.
 

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I am a meat lover with a diabetic wife who doesn't like meat (though she does like seafood). I have come up with a bunch of very healthy, mostly if not all, vegetarian meals because of this. In addition, I usually make a few (about 2), batches of soup per week. First of all the soup can be very tasty without any meat (I usually put beans in the soup though). I often used fresh mushrooms as well.

There are packaged ready to make soups (you still add stuff but the seasoning etc is in there) you can buy named Alessi. They have a nice variety of soups...I like to use the pasta Fazool base the most, but there are quite a few good ones.

If I'm making a fast soup (not slow cooking all day), I'll often u se the Alessi as a base, then sautee some fresh mushrooms, brussel sprouts and steam some broccli heads/carrots/green beens (I bug them in a bag called broccoli stir fry at safeway).

The mushrooms and brussel sprouts can be sauteed together. I use a big electric pan, and a bit of olive oil. Doing so seprate from the soup gives them a stronger taste when you put them in at the end (otherwise the soup will drain the flavor out of the mushrooms at least..and they won't have the satisfying crunchyness. The brussel sprouts also need to be cooked seprate to have the best taste in my experience.

Anyway, it takes about 30 minutes for the Alessi soup to boil then simmer, cooking the beans in it (Both that come in the package, and that you add...I usually add 1 can of kidney beans). Which is the perfect amount of time to make the rest of your veggies. Those are my go to veggies btw, but I use other ones. I really like the thin asparagus stalks, but I can rarely get them (usually they are the big fat ones, but the thin ones, sauteed in olive oil till they are crunchy (not burned but almost like veggie bacon I guess lol)..are delicious).

Sometimes I'll add a bit of diced tomatoes as well.

It's yummy and can feed 4 in less then 30 minutes all together. Very little clean up at all, and no meat involved (which also means it lasts longer in the fridge etc!).

It does have some pasta in it though (hence the name pasta fazool!!) but since you put in so many veggies and other ingredients, it's very little pasta per serving. They have soups with no pasta if you prefer (or can't handle gluten etc).

Another dish I made for along time, but have stopped lately due to the alessi soups was a vegetable blended soup. I would cook up a bunch of veggies (everything above + turnips, squash etc), then blend it all together. I'd add spices to increase the flavor, then freeze it. Before the Alessi this was the best way to always have some soup ready for my wife...and I would just make it once a week. When she was hungry I'd just pop out one of the frozen containers, microwave it, and poof she had a quick healthy snack. That was probably a bit healthier then the Alessi, but I didn't really like that soup (Ended up mostly tasting like brocolli soup no matter what I did...(well I never didn't add any brocolli so um yeah), which is ok, but not meal worthy for me.

I'm mostly trying to avoid carbs though when I cook. I still cook with chicken and sea food often, but avoid all my great pasta dishes now (I made a lasagna that people would kill for pretty much heh). I got this Jammie Oliver pan (well my wife got it for me), that is just amazing at cooking meats. It has a little sensor in the middle that lets you know when the temp is right for the meat and it makes the best chicken breasts I've ever had. It's good for veggies as well (I often do my mushrooms/brussels on it now). I have not tried tofu yet on it...I have never been that good at making tofu taste good....but it's searing properties may help with that.
 

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I've been a vegetarian for about 7 years. Originally it was because I refused to support factory farming (I don't care much if you kill animals for meat, just do it in a way that doesn't torture them, pollute the environment, and hurt family farms). I would have been willing to eat organic meat but had no access to it when I was in college. By the time I finally lived somewhere where I could buy and cook my own food, it had been so long since I ate meat, that even the thought of eating organic meat makes me feel bad.

As far as vegetarians go though, I'm a really shitty one. I'm too lazy to do much cooking or food preparation, so my diet it mostly pasta, soy, and pizza
 

Ingjald

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Not a vegetarian. In fact, a rather enthusiastic carnivore. Funilly enough, about the same time I decided to become a hunter, my three closest friends decided to become vegans or vegetarians. At times somewhat irked by the air of moral high-horsery with which some meat-abstainers carry themselves. One of my friends has not yet figured out why proclaiming that meat-processing plants are "exactly like Auschwitz" is quite offensive on multiple levels.

Also, one of my friends has the best approach to "preaching" ever; He won't talk your ears off about the morals and principles of veganism. instead,he'll take every opportunity to cook for/with me and insist the meal be vegan (with the reasoning that, at least on that day, I didnt eat meat). Seeing how the guy is a great cook, I am not complaining. :)
 

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OK, first of all basic terminology:
Vegetarian - someone who does not meat or fish of any kind
Vegan- someone who does not eat any kind of animal product
Pescatarian - someone who does not eat meat but still eats fish and other aquatic creatures
Edit: Carnivore: someone who ONLY eats meat/fish (I.e. virtually no humans ever)
Omnivore- someone who eats all food types, meat or otherwise

It annoys me enough when the average stranger misuses and swaps these terms around, I can't believe how many people these terms actually apply to still don't use/understand them properly.

Now that's out the way I'm curious how many people here are vegetarian, vegan, or pescetarian and eat meat substitutes (e.g. Quorn)?
 

wulfy42

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Battenberg said:
OK, first of all basic terminology:
Vegetarian - someone who does not meat or fish of any kind
Vegan- someone who does not eat any kind of animal product
Pescatarian - someone who does not eat meat but still eats fish and other aquatic creatures
Edit: Carnivore: someone who ONLY eats meat/fish (I.e. virtually no humans ever)
Omnivore- someone who eats all food types, meat or otherwise

It annoys me enough when the average stranger misuses and swaps these terms around, I can't believe how many people these terms actually apply to still don't use/understand them properly.

Now that's out the way I'm curious how many people here are vegetarian, vegan, or pescetarian and eat meat substitutes (e.g. Quorn)?

If it wasn't for pizza (and buns on burgers), for many years in my early 20's I woulda qualified as a Carnivore.

In fact, I still eat meat (Beef especially) way more then my wife or friends, I just don't make it for our primary meals that often. I just saw my doctor recently (both me and my wife had back to back appointments so we saw her at the same time...and had both had bloodwork done).

My cholosteral was 150 or something like that and my good cholestoral was great...and hers was 190 something and not so great. So she has to take a pill now, and I was told I can eat all the meat I want lol.

She was so not happy...cause she's always um.....talking...to me about eating too much meat and that my cholestoral must be horrible.

I have actually toned down how much (beef especially) I eat though, due to not making it much at home. I still eat hamburgers, and steak is my go to food at restraunts, but at home it's mostly chicken now. Perhaps my body developed some very strong methods of dealing with huge quantaties of beef over the years and now that I'm eating less, it can handle it easily.

Till I was 27 (year before I met my wife), I could, and did, eat about as much as 5-6 grown men, without ever gaining any weight at all. I would hang out with a group of close friends most weekends, and they, all together, would get one extra large pizza, and I would order and eat 2 (I did always only eat once a day though).

At 27 my metabolism decided to slow down though and I started having to watch what I would eat (which was HARD since I never had to pay any attention at all). I went from my basic weight of 220pnd (I was always that weight even when I qualified for the special forces (came in 3rd in the run)...to 240-250 (it fluxuated). I had drastically dropped how much exersize I got that year so that may have been a factor. A few years later I had another....bump up to about 260-270 now. It's all in my gut though, still have very strong/in shape legs/arms etc. The gut just doesn't wanna go away, no matter how much I exersize or what I eat. I stopped drinking soda about 2 1/2 years ago now. I cut out pizza as well about a year ago. I still eat beef/steaks but maybe twice a week max at this point....sticking with veggies and chicken, just veggies or occasionally sea food (not a big fan of sea food).

Now that I think about it...I was the healthies and leanest when I was primarily a Carnivore (with pizza added in) heh. Once I started eating veggies etc (IE when I got married), my weight went up.

Maybe veggies are bad for me?
 

Ingjald

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Battenberg said:
OK, first of all basic terminology:
Vegetarian - someone who does not meat or fish of any kind
Vegan- someone who does not eat any kind of animal product
Pescatarian - someone who does not eat meat but still eats fish and other aquatic creatures
Edit: Carnivore: someone who ONLY eats meat/fish (I.e. virtually no humans ever)
Omnivore- someone who eats all food types, meat or otherwise
not quite: there's the question of predominance. Cats and dogs are both carnivores, not omnivores, yet any cat owner will tell you that cats will gobble up grass and flowers and whatnot, and my own cat is never happier than when he's given corn nibblets to chew on. Granted, I think this is more for gastro-intenstinal reasons rather than nutrition, but still.

On another note; vegans tend to shy away from animal products entirely, not just those that are eaten.


As far as humans go, we are omnivourous by nature; our mouths have both predatory incisors and vegetarian molars. There are, however, carnivorous humans; the natives of Greenland and the arctic circle. The immediate enviroment offers nothing in ways of edible plant-life, and the entire food industry there is fishing, whaling and seal-hunting, and supplies are iced and salted down to last through to next season.


CAPTCHA: burger with fries.
 

CyberSinner

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Actually

Vegan; are people who do not eat animal byproducts for Ethical reasons

Vegetarians; are people who do not eat animal byproducts

Omnivores; are people who eat a balance of animal byproduct and vegetable matter

Carnivore; someone who eats primarily meat

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And I'll eat Quorn or something like that once in a while if I have the money to get it. And Quorn is not necessarily vegetarian, they tend to still have eggs in their ingredients.