Anyone besides me beginning to cringe at certain terms because of Video Games?
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I am with you 100% on this, it's getting annoying when someone plays a shooter and then calls it Spunkgargleweewee just because they didn't like it rather than actually mention reasons.IrishSkullpanda said:
Entitled. I always feel entitled to getting what's advertised if I paid for the bloody thing, and acting like that's a bad thing is pretty damn infuriating.
I like to pretend they just misspelled Gotye and imagine what a version of the game inspired by him would be like. Unless you've actually heard someone pronounce that acronym, in which case your ears have all my pity.Lilani said:
No, we won't. It's too funny to watch people rage over a word so ridiculous.IrishSkullpanda said:
It hardly makes it meaningless; the things that pull someone out of their state of immersion is going to differ from person to person. The flashing red screen may indeed be very distracting for one person while for another they won't even notice it but still receive the intended message it is meant to convey.King Billi said:
Let's look at a more extreme example that actually happened though. You may or may not remember how some months back a person (or group of persons I don't remember very clearly) convinced James Cameron to replace the sky used in Titanic with one that was astronomically accurate; the reason given was that the stock, inaccurate sky used in the film bugged the ever living crap out of them. Did you notice the sky was wrong in Titanic, because I sure as hell didn't. However this seemingly insignificant detail was enough to pull those people out of the movie and go "Wait a minute, that sky isn't right!". Until that point they had bought into the entire world Cameron had built on screen, and depending on how anal they were about it (which by the sounds of it they were very anal about it) their immersion in the film was broken every time the frame included a prominent view of the sky.
Going back to our hypothetical situation of a flashing red screen to denote damage we can roughly apply the same situation. You and I may not give two shits if the screen flashes red so long as whatever is causing it dies; we'll never once dwell on it during the game. Someone else, however, may like the first person perspective (the most logical scenario that such a mechanic would be use) that has no hud cluttering up the screen; they effectively buy into the game's universe. Their perception of the world becomes the game on screen, that is until the screen flashes red the first time they get damaged and they're suddenly jarred back to reality. This is of course going to happen dozens or hundreds of times more during the game, and if it bothers them enough to complain about it then chances are their immersion in the experience is broken every time.
The same way that good books, movies, plays, and tv shows draw you into them so completely that you lose track of the world around you; so do good games do the same. Since you can't please everyone all the time, inevitably there will be something in them that pulls someone unwillingly back to reality. Therefore it is inevitable that two people will have opposite opinions on whatever pulled one of them out of the experience; it is a quite valid argument point. In fact it can be used a spring board into further discussion, "Well why is it that the screen flashing red broke your immersion?". The dissenting party can then explain why it bothered them, and the supporting party can counter with why they feel it shouldn't have. Both then are able to walk away more enlightened to a view point different from their own.
Within communities the words overpowered and nerf tend to get tossed around a fair bit more than I'd like, and within things like articles and dev statements terms like visceral, engaging, emotive and morally ambiguous seem to be the ones I'm seeing freakin everywhere lately.
EDIT: Oh yeah, immersion. And whenever you see someone post an entire sentence that looks suspiciously similar to something you've seen from ZP/EP, Jimquizition or Extra Credits without acknowledging it, if that counts.
EDIT: Oh yeah, immersion. And whenever you see someone post an entire sentence that looks suspiciously similar to something you've seen from ZP/EP, Jimquizition or Extra Credits without acknowledging it, if that counts.
Entitled and Elitist for me, these words gets passed around way to often.
If you want an easy mode in Dark Souls, you're an entitled prick.
If you don't want an easy mode, you're an elitist prick.
I love how we hate moral choice in games yet somehow we turn it into black and white choices in real life. Irony?
If you want an easy mode in Dark Souls, you're an entitled prick.
If you don't want an easy mode, you're an elitist prick.
I love how we hate moral choice in games yet somehow we turn it into black and white choices in real life. Irony?
I'm with you guys. Though with me, it's not even people misusing it because they dislike certain FPS games. I hate the term because it's a stupid term... probably the dumbest thing to ever come out of Yahtzee's mouth, really for a huge number of reasons.SSJBlastoise said:
OT: A term that I tend to look at with negative connotation because of video games? Oh, that's an easy one. Nostalgia. Don't get me wrong, I love what it defines, I love the feeling it gives me, I just cringe whenever I hear the word now because I detest what it does to people.
Yeah, ever since Yahtzee came up with the term it's been Spunkgargleweewee.
It wasn't funny when he said it, it wasn't funny when the first guy copied it, it sure as hell isn't funny after the 500th time of someone aping it by going "HURR DURR SPUNKGARGLEWEEWEE LOL" with all the intelligence and timing of a drunk monkey.
Yes, we get it, you dislike the MMS genre, maybe if you gave adequate reasons for it instead of just spouting off some daft term Yahtzee came up with you might be taken a bit more seriously.
It wasn't funny when he said it, it wasn't funny when the first guy copied it, it sure as hell isn't funny after the 500th time of someone aping it by going "HURR DURR SPUNKGARGLEWEEWEE LOL" with all the intelligence and timing of a drunk monkey.
Yes, we get it, you dislike the MMS genre, maybe if you gave adequate reasons for it instead of just spouting off some daft term Yahtzee came up with you might be taken a bit more seriously.
"Visceral".
Translation: It's got blood in it. You kiddies like blood, right? Blood blood blood. Because it's still 1994 and Mortal Kombat is still SO cutting edge.
Also "console peasants" and "PC Master Race", for the same reason as "spunkgargleweewee". Parroting Yahtzee doesn't make you clever. It makes you a goddamn parrot.
Translation: It's got blood in it. You kiddies like blood, right? Blood blood blood. Because it's still 1994 and Mortal Kombat is still SO cutting edge.
Also "console peasants" and "PC Master Race", for the same reason as "spunkgargleweewee". Parroting Yahtzee doesn't make you clever. It makes you a goddamn parrot.
I try to not get all worked up about words, they are just words after all. Try and fail, because terms like noob, newb, buff, nerf, over-powered, "online all women are men", "4th faction" (see; Planetside 2 forums), unbalanced and hardcore are all very annoying to me for various reasons...
It is not the terms themselves that annoy me, it is that some people seem to take them seriously... Its a JOKE people!McMarbles said:
"Compelling" Every time I see a reviewer use that particular c-word, I feel a strong compulsion to strangle something. Its overuse is just as bad as the overuse of "addictive" was in the early to mid-90s.
Can I also add a word that's been ruined by the internet as a whole through its infuriating overuse? Yes, I'm going to throw "epic" into the ring.
Can I also add a word that's been ruined by the internet as a whole through its infuriating overuse? Yes, I'm going to throw "epic" into the ring.
"Realism" Why the in the name of fuck do we want our games to be realistic? Games are supposed to be an escape and how can you escape from real life if the game is realistic?
I just hate all words in general, I think it is high time we do away with those old archaic ways and start to communicate strictly non-verbally.
I think immersion means something in the right context. The examples you used were mostly ones where the speaker didn't get the point of immersion.s69-5 said:
Like when I was playing Mass Effect 2, and my power went out in the middle of the suicide mission, and I had to do over an hour of gameplay over again. That killed the immersion.
When people complain about stuff like bad lip syncing or weird lighting, and then whine about immersion. That can be annoying.
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McMarbles said:
SSJBlastoise said:
I've been a touch less active on these forums lately, but the only time I've heard that term was when Yahtzee first said it, and the bajillion times people have complained about others using "Spunkgargleweewee" to describe a game.IrishSkullpanda said:
You know, just saying.
OT: A few things, but nothing that hasn't already been mentioned.
And ill-understood. The fact is, those examples you gave (and I'm not saying you're wrong, since I've seen most of thsoe used almost verbatim) are probably indicative of something completely different if "immersion" is being broken.s69-5 said:
Immersion dovetails with another one of my pet peeves....
Even worse when someone's talking about a game that already has some heavy unrealistic elements in it. CoD or Skyrim come to mind.canadamus_prime said:
I kind of want people to get what they wish for here.
People were saying it really frequently for a couple of weeks there. Now it's just died down and all you hear are the people who hate the term.Zen Toombs said:
See also: MLP on the Escapist.
I agree. Such comunication does actually make the brain work faster. TO HELL WIRH WORDS! NOW WE RING IN THE AGE OF FACIAL EXPRESSIONS!Mr.K. said: