anyone dissapointed with Bioshock 2 as well?

[Babrook]

I do.

Mutliplayer is incredibly dull.
PC version is full of bugs, poor graphics.
Game feels more like an expansion than a full game. It's like playing the EXACT same game.

Spoiler

No final boss.

Difficulty levels off towards the end, becomes too easy.
Plot is told better, but still not as interesting.
Rapture isn't as good the second time around, but this is to be expected.

Fun? Sure. Worth $50? Don't think so.

 

[EnzoHonda]

Except I felt the first one to be exactly like a bunch of other games I had already played 5 and 10 years earlier, except heavily watered down (pun very intended).

Name them, seriously what games have any visual or philosophical resmblence to Bioshock?

I gotta go with N3 on this one. Bioshock was System Shock 2. Just underwater. The same twists with the whole "person who tell you what to do is really the bad guy," com-logs and diary entries, plasmids/psyonics. Seriously, they said "we did a great job on System Shock 2, but no one played it, so lets re-release it in an underwater setting." Granted, the setting was fucking amazing.

 

[shadow skill]

I was pissed off that I couldn't afford this.

Then yesterday the missus arrived home and took Bioshock 2 out of her handbag and went 'oh, where did this come from?'

She's so getting her dinner cooked all this week.

You should make that a whole month. She is clearly awesome made flesh.

 

[Babrook]

I gotta go with N3 on this one. Bioshock was System Shock 2. Just underwater. The same twists with the whole "person who tell you what to do is really the bad guy," com-logs and diary entries, plasmids/psyonics. Seriously, they said "we did a great job on System Shock 2, but no one played it, so lets re-release it in an underwater setting." Granted, the setting was fucking amazing.

I'll agree with this, too. It's SS2 with less depth (pun not intended) underwater. The whole Objectivist/Rand-ian bullshit has no real impact on the game. You remove that and the game is no different.

Sure, the setting is good, but overall Bioshock as a series isn't as amazing or revolutionary as some claim it to be.

 

[Mojojuxxy]

I like it, certainly not the best game I've ever played but good enough to keep me interested. Plus I picked it up pretty cheap, so I'm counting this one as a net gain... or I would if it wasn't for bloody secuROM!!! The damn bloody thing wouldn't let me save my game until I'd signed up for windows games for live (which is complete and utter crap), forced me to input the serial key multiple times when I bought the game off steam (which is utterly pointless), and now SecuROM seems to be affecting my other purchases... DoD:S has suddenly become much more laggy and the only difference being to my computer/network is the installation of SecuROM.

Just because of all this crap I seriously considered downloading the pirated version of the game and uninstalling my legitimate install, simply because the pirated version seems to offer a better experience...

 

[Soren91]

Played it an loved it. I plan to play through it again in a week or two because I liked it so much. The only thing I disliked about the game was that it was more linear than the first one.

 

[Ganthrinor]

I was fairly excited when I first heard about Bioshock 2, and pre-ordered a copy. I checked out it as time wore on and more was released about the game. It seems to be more of the same. Same guns. Same Environments. Same Enemies. Same Directions-By-Walkie-Talkie. Same Little sisters. Same Big Daddies. Same Arbitrary Choices.

So I figured I'd save myself the money and cancelled my Pre-order. If I really want to go back to Same-ville I'll just reply the fist one agian (or go exploring in the Metro tunnels of Fallot 3 *ba-dum-tsshh*).

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I was pissed off that I couldn't afford this.

Then yesterday the missus arrived home and took Bioshock 2 out of her handbag and went 'oh, where did this come from?'

She's so getting her dinner cooked all this week.

you sir have the perfect girlfriend (or wife) and i thik thats a sweet deal dinner for a week in exchange for bioshock 2

Cheers!

 

[JokerCrowe]

No I was not dissapointed... i played the first game, but had it spoiled for me, even before I played it, so I don't really have anything to compare to, but it is a lot better than I was expecting (you know, sequels) and I thought the part where...

Spoiler: You should not read this if you haven't played the game, really...

Spoiler: are you really sure? it will ruin a pretty fun part if you intend to play it...

...you get to play as a Little Sister...

... was pretty effin awesome, mostly because I thought the game was over before that happened...

So no, I was NOT dissapointed...
also...

Spoiler: a pretty minor spoiler, but hey... just to be safe

Eleanor was really cute : )
Girlfriend material almost... we would have such 'interesting' children...

EDIT:
But I WAS dissapointed in the multiplayer... but I don't think it's for me...

 

[MiracleOfSound]

You should make that a whole month. She is clearly awesome made flesh.

Nah, I'm a terible cook... she doesn't deserve that much bad food haha

 

[Axolotl]

Ultimately the choices are, kill a defenceless little girl, or be a defenceless little girls body guard and protect her.

Except that isn't the moral choice system the game uses.

I'll agree with this, too. It's SS2 with less depth (pun not intended) underwater. The whole Objectivist/Rand-ian bullshit has no real impact on the game. You remove that and the game is no different.

You're right who needs intellectual ideas or philsophical thoughts, every game should be a mindless Doom clone free of ideas or mental stimulation of any kind.

 

[Babrook]

You're right who needs intellectual ideas or philsophical thoughts, every game should be a mindless Doom clone free of ideas or mental stimulation of any kind.

Intellectual and philosophical thoughts that have no real bearing on the game outside of setting and requires no input or thought from the player. You switch the game from an Objectivist philosophy to another and nothing about the game will change. Hell, switch Rapture from an Objectivist commune to a Facist commune, change the dialog in a few spots, and the game still makes perfect sense. The Randian principles that are injected into Bioshock have no real impact on the game, it is simply used to paint the game's setting.

If you consider that Rand was a quack, and that Objectivism is bullshit, Bioshock really isn't that "thought provoking" as many people revere it to be.

 

[silver wolf009]

I found it nice and the addition of multiplayer is a nice addtion even if i can never find that stupid suit no matter how hard i try.

Oh and welcome to the escapist
ignore doug outside he's our pet troll.

 

[Axolotl]

Intellectual and philosophical thoughts that have no real bearing on the game outside of setting and requires no input or thought from the player.

They have a very significant effect on a game they can elevate gaming from entertainment into a full blown artistic medium.

You switch the game from an Objectivist philosophy to another and nothing about the game will change. Hell, switch Rapture from an Objectivist commune to a Facist commune, change the dialog in a few spots, and the game still makes perfect sense. The Randian principles that are injected into Bioshock have no real impact on the game, it is simply used to paint the game's setting.

It would change the whole philosophical depth of the game for a start there have already been a dozen rebuttals of Facism whereas Objectivism is much fresher ground. That's what elevates Bioshock in my eyes, it shows gaming can be a platform for philosophical arguements without merely rehashing concepts from other mediums or focusing solely on concepts found only within gaming itself.

If you consider that Rand was a quack, and that Objectivism is bullshit, Bioshock really isn't that "thought provoking" as many people revere it to be.

The whole point is it shows why Rand was a quack and why Objectivism sucks as a political ideology. Saying this has bearing on the game is narrow-minded.

 

[The Undoer]

You should make that a whole month. She is clearly awesome made flesh.

Nah, I'm a terible cook... she doesn't deserve that much bad food haha

I can haz yurr gurlfriend? Nah, win to you buddy! ^^ Personally, I loved the game, I thought the plot was better than the original and the addition of several things to change your ending, and the references to the old game.

 

[Wolfram23]

How can anyone complain about the morality in this game? What other options could possibly be presented?? If you want ADAM, there's one way to get it - Little Sisters. Are you looking for that "moral grey area" where you horribly mutilate her but let her live? That's about the only other thing that could be presented here. And there's no point to it, given the "kill her for lots of ADAM" or "help her and get a less ADAM"... the mutilation and live could only possibly replace the killing of her... but really, mutilating a little girl and let her live? Revenge much? lol

 

[TheLefty]

I was so dissappointed with the first I didn't bother playing the second. I'll wait a few years for the price to drop.

 

[Valkyira]

I think it delivered on my expectations. A lot of people were put of when it was announced you play as a big daddy, but they pulled it off great. I didn't want it to be too different to the first one, as it was always going to be hard to better without pissing off some people.

 

[Babrook]

They have a very significant effect on a game they can elevate gaming from entertainment into a full blown artistic medium.

How does it have an effect on the game itself? Again, you could remove it from the game and a vast majority of the people wouldn't even notice.

It would change the whole philosophical depth of the game for a start there have already been a dozen rebuttals of Facism whereas Objectivism is much fresher ground. That's what elevates Bioshock in my eyes, it shows gaming can be a platform for philosophical arguements without merely rehashing concepts from other mediums or focusing solely on concepts found only within gaming itself.

And there has never been a rebuttal of Objectivism before? There is plenty of criticism out there on it. Tons, even.. Bioshock is nothing new or unique in this respect.

The whole point is it shows why Rand was a quack and why Objectivism sucks as a political ideology. Saying this has bearing on the game is narrow-minded.

It doesn't have a bearing on the game, because Objectivism has no bearing on the game. Again, we don't need a video game to show us that Rand was an idiot, it's been done before. Not breaking any new ground here.