Anyone else hate British cuteness?

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GeekFury

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If you think the word 'Muggles' is for kids and makes all things british 'cute' then go watch a bloody Monty Python sketch where they go using more british 'upper class' words. Bloody yanks.
 

TimeLord

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Britain? Cute? You obviously haven't been to Glasgow on a dark Saturday night.
 

Quaxar

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Because clearly every American book uses random apostrophes...

Counter: I hate it when people pack their names and places full of them because it just seems like an unnecessary addition. I think Dorsalim sounds just fine, no need to make a mess out of it.

Appleshampoo said:
If you hate British naming of Fantasy things I'd steer well clear of Lord of the rings if I were you. It's just FULL of that British cute naming you're on about.
Oh yeah, Mines of Moria totally sounds like a child daycare.
 

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It'd be pretty stupid to have them called something Asian sounding, tbh. In western culture mysticism has long been associated with Asia and all that, which is why some people associate 'real' sounding fantasy with eastern sounding language.

But in Harry Potter it's universal magic. I'm sure in universe the magic asians have their own magic names for the non-magic chaps, but it'd sound odd if the magic English used Asian names without any reason.
 

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Interesting point, and one I've noted about Harry Potter. Thing was although Rowling had the series mapped out in skeleton form from the start she didn't really know how dark it'd get. At the start it's a very kid-friendly adventure book. The naming decisions were very kid-based. Muggles is a good example, but also Dumbledore and Hogwarts and Diagon Ally, (Diagonally. Geddit?) They're kind of silly words that are fun for kids because the first book was a lighthearted kids book with silly things in it. The darkest it got was a short confrontation at the end. Move ahead ten years to the seventh book at you have torture, you have enslavement, you have murder, you have a kid burning to death, you have a man getting a snake's fang through his throat and drowning in his own blood - and more. But what can you do? The world has been established and the words and names used to establish it can't suddenly change for more fitting ones.

My point is that there's a reason, in that series at least. As far as "British cuteness" overall, I haven't noticed it. At all.
 

Quijiboh

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First post, whee.

Anyhoo, the words 'muggle' or 'Hogwarts' are simply a holdover from the fact that Harry Potter started out as a children's book and grew more serious over time. Inevitably, some of the lighter elements will seem out of place.

Although really, does 'muggle' differ that much in cadence and delivery from a certain racial slur for black people?
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
Oh I know exactly where your avatar comes from. Mid nineties Nick was where it was at. I just saw an opportunity to take a cheap shot and it's two thirty in the morning here and I'm a little hopped up on Code Red and it was way funnier in my head...

Also just to get more off topic: Did you know Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers was Donnie? http://www.cracked.com/article_19239_8-actors-you-wont-believe-voiced-famous-cartoon-characters_p2.html Plus wouldn't his name be something like Nyangel Thornberry?
 

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SillyBear said:
lunncal said:
Hey, our comedy is miles better than than anything America has produced! Red Dwarf, Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, Black Adder, uh... Dad's army, all extremely British comedies that are all great.

OT: I am going to agree with everyone asking what the hell you are talking about, OP. Got any more examples than that one?
When did I ever say British comedy was bad?
SillyBear said:
Mate, I've got no idea what you are talking about.

Most things that come out of Britain are tremendously dull and seedy and dark as far as art and entertainment goes. The British are one of the most cynical people in the world.
Dull is kind of the opposite of funny, and I don't think any of the shows I listed were seedy or dark either. Personally I think one of the few media-related things Britian is great at is comedy, but I may be a little biased considering I am English myself.
 

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Rylot said:
Sizzle Montyjing said:
Oh I know exactly where your avatar comes from. Mid nineties Nick was where it was at. I just saw an opportunity to take a cheap shot and it's two thirty in the morning here and I'm a little hopped up on Code Red and it was way funnier in my head...

Also just to get more off topic: Did you know Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers was Donnie? http://www.cracked.com/article_19239_8-actors-you-wont-believe-voiced-famous-cartoon-characters_p2.html Plus wouldn't his name be something like Nyangel Thornberry?
I forgive you...
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It's the british way.
 

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maffro said:
It'd be pretty stupid to have them called something Asian sounding, tbh. In western culture mysticism has long been associated with Asia and all that, which is why some people associate 'real' sounding fantasy with eastern sounding language.

But in Harry Potter it's universal magic. I'm sure in universe the magic asians have their own magic names for the non-magic chaps, but it'd sound odd if the magic English used Asian names without any reason.
Thank you for saying what I couldn't put into words.
 

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TimeLord said:
Britain? Cute? You obviously haven't been to Glasgow on a dark Saturday night.
I have. Woke up naked on a doorstep with a power-drill taped to my hand.
 

LostTimeLady

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Ummmm... what?
I think there's probably a better example you could have made then saying 'muggle' is cute-sounding if you really think that there's inherant 'cuteness' in british fiction.
I think moogle and muggle are not comparable, muggle is actually a slang term used in real life in several contexts while moogle is a combination of 'mole' and 'bat' in the original japanese I believe.
I was expecting a dicussion about girls in pinafores and gingham when I clicked this thread.
But to address the title of the thread, I don't think there's such a thing as 'British cuteness', we're just British, that's our culture and it's different from other ones.

(Also, you only didn't get in to Harry Potter because of the fact they call non-magic people muggles? Really?)
 

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Sizzle Montyjing said:
Rylot said:
Sizzle Montyjing said:
Oh I know exactly where your avatar comes from. Mid nineties Nick was where it was at. I just saw an opportunity to take a cheap shot and it's two thirty in the morning here and I'm a little hopped up on Code Red and it was way funnier in my head...

Also just to get more off topic: Did you know Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers was Donnie? http://www.cracked.com/article_19239_8-actors-you-wont-believe-voiced-famous-cartoon-characters_p2.html Plus wouldn't his name be something like Nyangel Thornberry?
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Quaxar said:
Appleshampoo said:
If you hate British naming of Fantasy things I'd steer well clear of Lord of the rings if I were you. It's just FULL of that British cute naming you're on about.
Oh yeah, Mines of Moria totally sounds like a child daycare.
I sent my 3 year old there. She fell down a well and got eaten by a Balrog. Social Services are still investigating.
 

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lunncal said:
SillyBear said:
lunncal said:
Hey, our comedy is miles better than than anything America has produced! Red Dwarf, Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, Black Adder, uh... Dad's army, all extremely British comedies that are all great.

OT: I am going to agree with everyone asking what the hell you are talking about, OP. Got any more examples than that one?
When did I ever say British comedy was bad?
SillyBear said:
Mate, I've got no idea what you are talking about.

Most things that come out of Britain are tremendously dull and seedy and dark as far as art and entertainment goes. The British are one of the most cynical people in the world.
Dull is kind of the opposite of funny, and I don't think any of the shows I listed were seedy or dark either. Personally I think one of the few media-related things Britian is great at is comedy, but I may be a little biased considering I am English myself.
I'm English too.

Dull means grey, introspective and subtle to me. It doesn't mean "bad".

Look at the UK Office in comparison to the US Office, then you'll know what I mean. One is colourful, loud, quirky, outward and celebratory and the other is the opposite. The cultures are different. Britain in generally is a very dreary place. And I don't mean that in a negative way, it's just different.