Anyone else hate British cuteness?

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sam42ification

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concrete89 said:
It's a childrens book.
Get over it.
Also, since we are judging books by covers here, get the nerv up not to gasp in horror at the word "******", an you will see that it is a rather cutesy word after all...
It kinda sounds like something you'd name a cat.
It does sound like somthing you would name a cat. Thats a really good example because muggle is pretty much the harry potter equivilant of ******.
 

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irrelevant83 said:
As an American, I do like British culture, especially comedy, but I can't get over their obsession with making everything cute.

I'm not even sure if cute is the right word, it's just the best word I can muster. They don't just apply cute names to things like the Japanese do, but apply cuteness and expect everyone to take it seriously. I can't get into Harry Potter, though I'm sure it's brilliantly written, just because non-magic users are referred to as Muggles. To compare, the Final Fantasy series has creatures called Moogles, but FF doesn't force us to take them seriously.

Again, it might just be the fact that I'm American. I'm used to mystical things sounding sort of Asian or Middle Eastern and putting apostrophes in random places. An ancient secret society should be called Kal'sur and the mystical weapon should be Dor'salim. So if non-magic using people in the HP universe were called Cara'sin instead of Muggles, maybe I wouldn't be posting this on the net, but as it is, Muggles is a word that forces me to accept the fact that I'm reading a book written for an 8 year old even though the later novels grow with the audience.

As it is, I hate British naming of Fantasy things. Posters should feel free to add their own grievances.
'Cute' is definately NOT the term you are looking for.I think the term you are looking for is 'nickname'. To which case the British have many and most are insults. The word 'muggle' from Harry Potter in real life terms is about as polite as calling a Black man a '******' and the book says as much.

Also I don't understand what you mean by 'I hate British naming of Fantasy things'. The British have been naming 'fantasy things' for a few hundred years now, or do you have something against Excalibur, or Bugbears or Jabberwockies or Lewis Carrol, Tolkien,Shakespear or Jeffery Chaucer for that matter.

Incidently why do you feel that Mystical things should sound Asian or Middle Eastern? What about Gaelic - Druids were pretty damn mystical I always thought - about Greek, Latin, Old English, Russian and Norse?
 

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This is just bizarre; I've heard of cuteness as a cultural thing in Japan, but not in Britain. My mother is British and she never cutesified things; hell, she liked to stomp on cute things for fun (metaphorically, of course).
 

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DSK- said:
concrete89 said:
It's a childrens book.
Get over it.
Also, since we are judging books by covers here, get the nerv up not to gasp in horror at the word "******", an you will see that it is a rather cutesy word after all...
It kinda sounds like something you'd name a cat.
Believe it or not, one of the officers involved in the Dambusters raid had a dog called ****** :/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_%28dog%29
Indeed! My father owns the book. In the movie remake though, they changed the name of the hapless mutt to Digger so as not to offend.
 

concrete89

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DSK- said:
Believe it or not, one of the officers involved in the Dambusters raid had a dog called ****** :/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_%28dog%29
Now that's just wrong!
You wouldn't name a dog "Mittens" or "Honourable Chairman Miao", just like you wouldn't name a cat "Poncho" or "Woofington". For christs sake, there a clear and simple rules on the different rythms and/or levels of hillarity present in animal names and they should be enforced, damnit!
 

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Forgive me if someone already pointed this out but I think the OP is using 'cute' when they are straining for the adjective 'Twee' or otherwise 'quaint'.

which is a definite part of English culture, and that of Britain, but it is really not much different to the Mid-western Americana and that Frontiersman mentality that is still somewhat prevalent in US culture.

Both are kinda embarassing but still essential to defining that nation.
 

Jonluw

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If all you're basing this on is Harry Potter, I have news for you: Harry Potter is a children's book.
That should answer your questions.
 

Spitfire

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Cute is not the right word. Cheesy maybe. I don't like Harry Potter, but that's for vastly different reasons than because it's cheesy or whatever.
 

Adeoma

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hmm a whole bunch of british people got upset about something said about british culture? didnt see that coming. also try not to be a op that uses hate.... you wont make friends.
 
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I'm not even sure where he could get an idea like that, modern British film/ TV is generally dark and bleak.
PS: I am neither British nor offended, just confused.
 

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Yeah, yet another Englishman going "What the hell is he talking about?!" here.

What you said is just wrong. Considering you apparently 'like British culture' why do you not seem to know anything about it?
 

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TimeLord said:
Britain? Cute? You obviously haven't been to Glasgow on a dark Saturday night.
I thought I did but then I realised I wandered into Silent Hill instead, lucky escape there! Phew!

I have no idea what the OP is talking about either, my friend Dave is so cynical someone said he should have a sticker on him that says 'Warning Corrosive' and he is the most British guy I know.

We can be 'quaint' but that's up until the point some fable-esque farmer tells you 'Don't you go down there that's a baaaaaad place.' And you stare down the previously delightful sunny country lane that is now completely pitch black and possibly wandered by giant black dogs that kill you if you look at them.

Yay British mythology.
 

Brian Hendershot

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Whhhhaattt? Have you been over there? There is nothing cute for miles except for the miles and miles of Japanese and Korean tourists.
 

mental_looney

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Hmm must have missed the cuteness after 25 years living there one word muggles which isn't really cute it sounds rather derogatory and we are all cute now....

yeah no idea what you are on about...
 

AmrasCalmacil

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Escapist Thread. Int. Day.

The thread roars with the bustle of much chatter, many of the characters speak hushed words over the foolishness of the OP and his obsession with pretentious sf and f namings that would make a fanfiction writer blush.

Enter AmrasCalmacil stage left.

AmrasCalmacil (facetious) LOL, AMERICANS.

Exit AmrasCalmacil stage right.
 

The Cheezy One

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Airsoftslayer93 said:
Im not sure Britain and Cute should ever be put in the same sentance.
And whats wrong with muggles? its the British wizards wod for non wizards, fair enough a middle easter wizard in the same universe may call non magic users kal'usar or whatever, but thats because they're speaking a different language... instead of english... get that?

Double A said:
As an American, I can say "What the fuck?" You guys should work on improving Freedom of Speech.
Im sorry, but freedom of speech? fuck you.
I think he thinks freedom automatically means quality. His sentence then nearly makes grammatical sense. Otherwise, its just sort of hilarious. We don't have an official right to freedom of speech, because we are more relaxed about that kind of thing. THEN you have to consider the fact that the previous post did actually make sense, so he just speed-read the OP and made up his own thing. I love that kind of guy :)

OT: As a man who is about as English as you can get (I can say 'For king and country' in the same way spies did in Red Alert without trying to put on an accent), I have to say, cute is not us. You've got to bear in mind, the books were written for 6-11 year olds, then the audience grew older with the books. Even then, as others have pointed out, muggle begins as more derogatory then childish. These wizards didn't consider magic-less to be little children to be petted and played with. They were persecuted and loathed by many families, and even the better ones just ignored them

Something else to consider - about 40% of the population, it transpires [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.298471-Poll-Escapists-Where-are-you-from], is from the UK and Ireland. So this isn't some harmless UK-bashing, you've got people up in arms about this.

Congratulations.

OFF TOPIC: The best film (I enjoyed all the books roughly equally) has got to be Prizoner of Azkaban, because it is by Alfonso Cuarón, who also did the AMAZING Children of Men.
 

SextusMaximus

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I don't have a bollocking, wanking clue what you're on about. British advertising is anything but cute.
 

The Electro Gypsy

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I'm actually not sure what you're on about. The Harry Potter series has literally only one good book (The Prisoner of Azkaban, the rest are terribly written). Also the cuteness thing confuses me as well, especially when something is meant to be considered cute I just don't care, but we don't really have anything cute.