Anyone else in the middle of a Shogun 2 Campaign?

[Fooz]

im currently in the middle of a long campaign, its the year 1576 and i am playing as the Chosokabe clan

i own 21 provinces all to the West and am at war with all the other clans (7 of them) except the Date clan, who i have been in a long term alliance, they own 10 provinces all in the East

We are basically both moving in towards Kyoto and we will eventually be victorious

I have 1 main Army with a 6 star 38 year old General, and his two sons (17/20 yrs old) leading their own smaller armies to reinforce their fathers army

In front of them are two 6 star Ninja's (38/50 yrs old) and a 5 star Geisha (26 yrs old) so i can sabotage any armies that head my way and assassinate their leader

I am currently earning around 3000 just from pirating itself

overall i make 7000 per turn and have over 100k in the treasury


[small](it's going much better than my last campaign, which ended with me having only 2 provinces and 1 small army after the Oda Clan destroyed me)[/small]

I want to know how you are doing in your quest to become Shogun

 

[Je Suis Ubermonkey]

I'm technically in the middle of 3.
Main one though...
I've got a dozen units of seriously good katana samurai: Shimazu, 6 experience, 5 armour bonus.
3 more full samurai forces.
70k in the bank, making about 1000 per turn (was 10000 before the realm divide)

Just launched my major offensive and took Kyoto. So now everyone hates me.

How are you staying allied with the Date?

 

[Fooz]

I'm technically in the middle of 3.
Main one though...
I've got a dozen units of seriously good katana samurai: Shimazu, 6 experience, 5 armour bonus.
3 more full samurai forces.
70k in the bank, making about 1000 per turn (was 10000 before the realm divide)

Just launched my major offensive and took Kyoto. So now everyone hates me.

How are you staying allied with the Date?

well i was allies with them from the about 5 turns in, and they just stuck with me through the Realm Divide, i occasionally give them some funds to keep up their army, because they aren't very wealthy

 

[Turing '88]

I am so very tempted to buy this on steam, loved the other Total War games but not really into the feudal Japan culture. What do you think, as good as the other games? I heard it plays quite different but not read up on it much tbh.

 

[DEAD34345]

I failed my quest to become Shogun at the first hurdle, there's no way my computer comes close to the requirements for this game. I can't even run Medieval 2 for crying out loud.

Ah well, I'll always have Shogun 1 and my invincible army of about 20 heroes...

 

[Je Suis Ubermonkey]

I'm technically in the middle of 3.
Main one though...
I've got a dozen units of seriously good katana samurai: Shimazu, 6 experience, 5 armour bonus.
3 more full samurai forces.
70k in the bank, making about 1000 per turn (was 10000 before the realm divide)

Just launched my major offensive and took Kyoto. So now everyone hates me.

How are you staying allied with the Date?

well i was allies with them from the about 5 turns in, and they just stuck with me through the Realm Divide, i occasionally give them some funds to keep up their army, because they aren't very wealthy

Damn. All my allies and even my vassals backstab me within a few turns of the divide (if not before), regardless of relations. Maybe the regular donations are helping? I know bribing the Pope was an excellent trick in Medieval II, haven't done enough diplomacy in Shogun to know yet.

(And is it just me or do other factions only accept offers with a high chance of acceptance? Between that and others demading money to set up trade agreements I'm getting fairly annoyed. Might even start declaring war because of diplomatic insults soon. Should make things interesting.)

 

[Je Suis Ubermonkey]

I am so very tempted to buy this on steam, loved the other Total War games but not really into the feudal Japan culture. What do you think, as good as the other games? I heard it plays quite different but not read up on it much tbh.

I've played 70 hours of campaign, and it seems to be the most solid. Slightly limited in scope and unit variety but well put together because of it, and fast paced too.
However the campaign map only runs on one of my four cores; hence even with a 3.2GHz quad core it gets a bit slow at times, and crashes more often than I'd like. Not sure how widespread this problem is.

 

[Fooz]

I am so very tempted to buy this on steam, loved the other Total War games but not really into the feudal Japan culture. What do you think, as good as the other games? I heard it plays quite different but not read up on it much tbh.

I've played 70 hours of campaign, and it seems to be the most solid. Slightly limited in scope and unit variety but well put together because of it, and fast paced too.
However the campaign map only runs on one of my four cores; hence even with a 3.2GHz quad core it gets a bit slow at times, and crashes more often than I'd like. Not sure how widespread this problem is.

I havn't experienced any problem on my quad core i5-760 2.8GHz

i have it all maxed out on my 6870 and it runs fine, im not sure what maybe happening with yours

 

[Aralous]

I am so very tempted to buy this on steam, loved the other Total War games but not really into the feudal Japan culture. What do you think, as good as the other games? I heard it plays quite different but not read up on it much tbh.

This is just my opinion, but I don't think Shogun 2 is as good as the rest of the series. I've played every game from Rome onwards and Empire is easily my favorite. The problem with Shogun is its lack of variety and play time. The clan bonuses don't add enough to make playing as a different clan feel much different, and in the time it took me to beat it 3 times (once on easy, normal, and hard each) I would have only beaten Empire, Rome, or Medieval once on normal.

 

[Turing '88]

I've played 70 hours of campaign, and it seems to be the most solid. Slightly limited in scope and unit variety but well put together because of it, and fast paced too.
However the campaign map only runs on one of my four cores; hence even with a 3.2GHz quad core it gets a bit slow at times, and crashes more often than I'd like. Not sure how widespread this problem is.

Not too worried about the small scope if it gives you diverse units EDIT:whoops, misread what you put! not sure what I think now. By the way anyone know how to do strike through in this?
Hope that quad core problem doesn't hit me though or my 2.83GHz core would struggle. Can't be that common I guess, everyones got a quad core now.

Still, worth a punt I guess. Haven't played a bad total war game yet!

Cheers!

I havn't experienced any problem on my quad core i5-760 2.8GHz

i have it all maxed out on my 6870 and it runs fine, im not sure what maybe happening with yours

Hmm I guess total war games are as CPU intensive as you'd expect then because my Q9550 and HD6950 can't quite max Napoleon TW, and I presume this is even more intensive.

 

[Je Suis Ubermonkey]

I've played 70 hours of campaign, and it seems to be the most solid. Slightly limited in scope and unit variety but well put together because of it, and fast paced too.
However the campaign map only runs on one of my four cores; hence even with a 3.2GHz quad core it gets a bit slow at times, and crashes more often than I'd like. Not sure how widespread this problem is.

Not too worried about the small scope if it gives you diverse units, hope that quad core problem doesn't hit me though or my 2.83GHz core would struggle. Can't be that common I guess, everyones got a quad core now.

Still, worth a punt I guess. Haven't played a bad total war game yet!

Cheers!

I havn't experienced any problem on my quad core i5-760 2.8GHz

i have it all maxed out on my 6870 and it runs fine, im not sure what maybe happening with yours

Hmm I guess total war games are as CPU intensive as you'd expect then because my Q9550 and HD6950 can't quite max Napoleon TW, and I presume this is even more intensive.

Unit diversity isn't great; they're all very distinct but there's almost no difference from faction to faction.

Oh, and it's actually not all that intensive. DX11 seems to be working wonders with it.
I can max out battles with 5000 troops on a 5770, and three cores running at 80% or less.
Surprising considering how much the graphics have been improved from earlier games.

 

[Turing '88]

Oh, and it's actually not all that intensive. DX11 seems to be working wonders with it.
I can max out battles with 5000 troops on a 5770, and three cores running at 80% or less.
Surprising considering how much the graphics have been improved from earlier games.

Ah I see, that's good at least. Anyway thanks for the advice everyone, think I've derailed this thread enough so I'll be off, at least while I download the game!!

 

[Je Suis Ubermonkey]

I completed it pretty easily as the Shimazu, captured the first island and then waited a good decade building an uber economy, then steamrollered the rest of Japan. Things got a bit hairy after I captured Kyoto (I nearly lost it twice afterwards), but it wasn't too hard after that.

I'm now trying a Hard mode campaign as the Hojo... It's hard My economy is flailing, all my allies are at war with one another and my armies are getting ripped apart. It's not going well.

All the central clans end up like that. They're so far from the trade nodes and so caught up in everyone's politics. My Hard (I think) Oda campaign got pretty tricky when I finally became strong enough to divide the realm, because I hadn't been able to build an economy or even recruit more than a handful of samurai units. Just hang in there, wait for an opportunity and BOOM!

 

[Crimsane]

My Date [http://i.imgur.com/WC5Ao.jpg] playthrough is going much more smoothly than my Uesugi [http://i.imgur.com/qLTjJ.jpg] one did. Mostly it's been luck, circumstances favoring alliances with strong clans. Though, it does help to begin isolated at one end of the map, too. Had more time to build up an economy before war came knocking on my door.

 

[Fooz]

My Date [http://i.imgur.com/WC5Ao.jpg]

Haha, i feel sorry for the clans that are not allied with you

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Spoiler: Herein lies the history of the Shimazu clan. Open at your own risk

I picked the Shimazu clan on my first playthrough. Their strong point is supposedly the fact that they have access to the sea and are surrounded by mostly weak clans. After creating a decently sized army I conquered the city to the east of me. I was even encouraged to do so through a mission. Due to my enthusiasm I started having visions of grandeur and proceeded to conquer the remaining city of that clan which for some reason I can't remember the name of. I conquered yet another city, this one situated in the north-east part of the island. I had 3 cities, trade was good and I was allied with a small clan to the north west of the island, near the middle.

The Mori suddenly became powerful after conquering a few provinces. They allied with my mortal enemy, purple coloured clan and proceeded to rape the shit out of my teal coloured allies. From 2 cities they were down to just one. I should have helped them but I had my own problems to deal with. In the process of downsizing my army to increase profit and try to make peace with purple I forgot that they were still my enemies and had also allied with the Mori. Suddenly, I had one huge fucking army standing right outside the city I had just conquered from them. My army was more than up to the challenge but it was a Phyrric victory. Whilst I had won and destroyed my enemies army I couldn't keep up unit production since the city was still in its "FUCK YOU I'M REBELLING IF YOU LEAVE" state.

As the seasons passed I attempted to reinforce that city with units from my capital. Unfortunately, they were to late as yet another huge army appeared right on my doorstep. I had no choice but to make a tactical retreat and attempt to protect my remaining two cities. I reinforced my city to the east and proceeded to create more troops. Of course this meant my income would be significantly lowered but this was a necesarry evil in order to survive.

Unfortunately, my ally was conquered by the Mori. They were now a great power with huge armies and there was no one protecting the North mountain pass that led right into my capital. A few more seasons later and the Mori had finally reached my capital. I was hoping Teal would last a little bit longer but alas, my plan failed. My capital was soon to be part of the Mori empire. I thought I could reinforce my capital using troops from my eastern city but unfortunately I had to deal with purple which had an army right on my doorstep as well. Whilst my capital survived, my eastern city was conquered and due to the sheer size of my army I was in the red profit wise. As the two armies closed in I knew my clan was facing total anihilation. They were determined, however, to put up a good fight.

The Shimazu made their last stand on the fields surrounding their capital. It was a bloody battle, one that was a won but at a price. My army was broken, tired and hungry and they were in no shape to face the purple army. More and more died, some due to hunger and some due to disease whilst the ground turned red from the blood of my own people. As purple closed in, I made the decision to reinforce the capital city. Soon, the terrifying horns of war were blown and purple charged. My people put a valiant fight but alas, it was in vain. Their broken and tired bodies were no match for the elite forces of purple. That day, the sky shined with a red shimmer. The battle was lost, my people were broken and the purple flash who I thought to have defeated had gotten their bloody revenge. A well deserved revenge, that is. My clan did spit on their traditions and violated their women after all.

Aside from that I also started a campaign with the Chosokabe clan. Conquered my little peninsula apart from one little clan that stood to the north-west. My army was powerful enough to take on their city but not powerful enough to withstand the bloody and relentless assaults of their militia who for some reason were bent on conquering their capital. Either way, I got bored after that, exited the game and haven't played since. I should attempt to continue my Chosokabe campaign but I'm to bored of the game at the moment to start playing again. Maybe someday I'll start anew but at the moment I'm busy playing Minecraft.

 

[Fooz]

-Snip-

That was actually fun to read, like a book that has been stripped to the main parts

what made it funny was you referencing to the clan by their colours, "The Purple Clan" made me chuckle

 

[SckizoBoy]

I failed my quest to become Shogun at the first hurdle, there's no way my computer comes close to the requirements for this game. I can't even run Medieval 2 for crying out loud.

What about Med 1? That was a pretty good game (in its time). Perhaps a bit on the easy side, but still enjoyable.

OT: Played as Chosokabe at first, got bogged down a bit moving onto Honshu, then decided to play as Oda (if only to control Nobutada, Nobuhide and Nobunaga... naturally). For a bit I stopped and started, slowly expanded outwards and finally wacked Kyoto just after the turn of the century. Second playthrough: fuck it, raised armies and didn't stop for anything, almost didn't build anything.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

-Snip-

That was actually fun to read, like a book that has been stripped to the main parts

what made it funny was you referencing to the clan by their colours, "The Purple Clan" made me chuckle

Well actually the reason I used "purple" to refer to that specific clan was because I forgot their name.