Anyone know whatever happened to the "Dongle" lady?

[DudeistBelieve]

The recent bought of sexism jerked my memory.... Remember some time ago this tech woman was at some tech conference, sitting behind her where two blokes in the same field who decided to amuse themselves during the presentation making a joke about "dongles", i think it was in reference to a switch or whatever. I'm not sure. Anyway they were joking amongst themselves, but this woman took offense to it in a sexism way, jumped on twitter to complain...

yadda yadda yadda

last I heard all 3 lost their jobs over it.

Well it's been awhile (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q182kWAhiM) but I was wondering Anyone know if she and the others got another job and moved on with their lives?

I suppose I could google it myself, but maybe someone just happens to know and save me the effort. (Well lets be honest, I probably won't bother)

 

[Vault101]

Anyway they were joking amongst themselves, but this woman took offense to it in a sexism way, jumped on twitter to complain...

no Idea

what bothers me about this is sexism in the tech industry is a very real and insidious problem, I'm not one to tell people how they should feel but this kind of made a joke of it, distracting from worse sexism and brought all the slimy sexists out the woodwork

 

[Frezzato]

It's unclear. Her LinkedIn account I mean. Last job update was in 2013, around the time of Donglegate I imagine. She's still active though, on Twitter at least. Seems she takes speaking engagements now.

Dear God I hate LinkedIn. Look what you made me do! Now I have to wash away the grime of LinkedIn with a picture of that cute dog that was raised with cats and therefore thinks it's a cat.

Spoiler: Ahhhhh.

Awwwww.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Anyway they were joking amongst themselves, but this woman took offense to it in a sexism way, jumped on twitter to complain...

no Idea

what bothers me about this is sexism in the tech industry is a very real and insidious problem, I'm not one to tell people how they should feel but this kind of made a joke of it, distracting from worse sexism and brought all the slimy sexists out the woodwork

The whole deal is fairly exhausting on me head. Why ordinary decent people can't just seem to treat each other respectfully. Granted I'm not sleeping well lately and working early, thus I'm constantly on here reading these things so they float in my mind during the day far more then most.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

It's unclear. Her LinkedIn account I mean. Last job update was in 2013, around the time of Donglegate I imagine. She's still active though, on Twitter at least. Seems she takes speaking engagements now.

Dear God I hate LinkedIn. Look what you made me do! Now I have to wash away the grime of LinkedIn with a picture of that cute dog that was raised with cats and therefore thinks it's a cat.

Spoiler: Ahhhhh.

Awwwww.
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Terrible to think her 15 minutes would make her unemployable... The story wasn't that large was it? I mean it's not like it was on CNN.

 

[Frezzato]

Terrible to think her 15 minutes would make her unemployable... The story wasn't that large was it? I mean it's not like it was on CNN.

It's possible that she's kept her latest job off the radar so to speak. It would make sense considering the threats that were going around.

Unfortunately it's also possible that you're right; she might have been viewed as controversial back then. Still, she's on Twitter, and I hope she's not putting up a false face for the benefit of her followers there.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Terrible to think her 15 minutes would make her unemployable... The story wasn't that large was it? I mean it's not like it was on CNN.

It's possible that she's kept her latest job off the radar so to speak. It would make sense considering the threats that were going around.

Unfortunately it's also possible that you're right; she might have been viewed as controversial back then. Still, she's on Twitter, and I hope she's not putting up a false face for the benefit of her followers there.

I mean heres a question, does anyone still care anymore?

Me aside, of course. And I don't even care that much, probably wouldn't of even googled it.

 

[Frezzato]

snip

That's the thing! I mean, even back when it happened I just brushed it off. The "joke" the guys made didn't even seem that offensive to me. But then she got offended and then somehow the wheels came off instead of people doing the right thing like apologizing and moving on with their lives.

It just seemed like such a strangely disproportionate reaction to something so innocuous, and I'm talking everyone, including the employers. Hell, if I owned a business and she applied, I'd hire her if she was qualified. Same thing for the two guys. Life's too short for this crap[footnote]The same goes for LinkedIn! Booooo![/footnote]

 

[DANEgerous]

Anyway they were joking amongst themselves, but this woman took offense to it in a sexism way, jumped on twitter to complain...

no Idea

what bothers me about this is sexism in the tech industry is a very real and insidious problem, I'm not one to tell people how they should feel but this kind of made a joke of it, distracting from worse sexism and brought all the slimy sexists out the woodwork

You know you have an odd effect on me or perhaps just in general and I am sorry if this sounds creepy or entitled or whatever but you make me want to be a woman just so I can find the people that you have found and just make so many of their days total crap. I have worked in the food industry and for all jokes that just "Women belong in the kitchen make me a sandwich" or whatever many of them are pretty damn sexist despite being you know bloody kitchens. Then you have tech and even video games and it just is not there for me in which case it may just be luck of the draw and if you do not cook then may our fortunes change case I want to chew whoever made you this passionate about the subject just cry for days I have done it to chefs I will so it to anyone.

Sorry that was a rant, I had a bad day but it is fine now I just needed to rant.

 

[Vault101]

You know you have an odd effect on me or perhaps just in general and I am sorry if this sounds creepy or entitled or whatever but you make me want to be a woman just so I can find the people that you have found and just make so many of their days total crap. I have worked in the food industry and for all jokes that just "Women belong in the kitchen make me a sandwich" or whatever many of them are pretty damn sexist despite being you know bloody kitchens. Then you have tech and even video games and it just is not there for me in which case it may just be luck of the draw and if you do not cook then may our fortunes change case I want to chew whoever made you this passionate about the subject just cry for days I have done it to chefs I will so it to anyone.

Sorry that was a rant, I had a bad day but it is fine now I just needed to rant.

huh..thats uh...interesting

in most things I haven't had much sexism directed at me personally (luckyly), but as other people have said it happens and people do still have terrible ideas

I have my own reasons/baggage as to why this gets me all fired up aside from the simple fact that sexism really sucks...or at least I think I know why I do...mabye I don't

 

[AuronFtw]

It's unclear. Her LinkedIn account I mean. Last job update was in 2013, around the time of Donglegate I imagine. She's still active though, on Twitter at least. Seems she takes speaking engagements now.

Dear God I hate LinkedIn. Look what you made me do! Now I have to wash away the grime of LinkedIn with a picture of that cute dog that was raised with cats and therefore thinks it's a cat.

Spoiler: Ahhhhh.

Awwwww.
[/spoiler][/QUOTE]

Terrible to think her 15 minutes would make her unemployable... The story wasn't that large was it? I mean it's not like it was on CNN.[/quote]

At best, she displayed a complete inability to keep situations in perspective and act like a mature adult, and at worst she acted like a self-righteous ***** from hell who made mountains out of molehills specifically to garner attention for herself and tarnished the name of feminism worldwide, costing herself and several others their jobs for no real gain.

She had a history of brewing social media shitstorms over non-issues even before donglegate, and her gloating over getting one of the guys fired on her website is what sealed the deal for me. Absolute self-absorbed *****, through and through. I wouldn't ever hire her. She wouldn't be worthy of representing my company at any event, even if she somehow learned to keep her fucking mouth shut. Just a despicable human being, determined to spread misery to all around her at any cost.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

It's unclear. Her LinkedIn account I mean. Last job update was in 2013, around the time of Donglegate I imagine. She's still active though, on Twitter at least. Seems she takes speaking engagements now.

Dear God I hate LinkedIn. Look what you made me do! Now I have to wash away the grime of LinkedIn with a picture of that cute dog that was raised with cats and therefore thinks it's a cat.

Spoiler: Ahhhhh.

Awwwww.
[/spoiler][/QUOTE]

Terrible to think her 15 minutes would make her unemployable... The story wasn't that large was it? I mean it's not like it was on CNN.[/quote]

At best, she displayed a complete inability to keep situations in perspective and act like a mature adult, and at worst she acted like a self-righteous ***** from hell who made mountains out of molehills specifically to garner attention for herself and tarnished the name of feminism worldwide, costing herself and several others their jobs for no real gain.

She had a history of brewing social media shitstorms over non-issues even before donglegate, and her gloating over getting one of the guys fired on her website is what sealed the deal for me. Absolute self-absorbed *****, through and through. I wouldn't ever hire her. She wouldn't be worthy of representing my company at any event, even if she somehow learned to keep her fucking mouth shut. Just a despicable human being, determined to spread misery to all around her at any cost.[/quote]

Ho ho! Auron! Tell us how you really feel!

Nah but seriously, what past history? This sounds interesting.

Also... Worldwide? I mean it was Escapist and couple other sites but I'm fairly certain it wasn't that big of a story.

[QUOTE=DANEgerous][QUOTE=Vault101][QUOTE=SaneAmongInsane] Anyway they were joking amongst themselves, but this woman took offense to it in a sexism way, jumped on twitter to complain...
[/QUOTE]

no Idea

what bothers me about this is sexism in the tech industry is a very real and insidious problem, I'm not one to tell people how they should feel but this kind of made a joke of it, distracting from worse sexism and brought all the slimy sexists out the woodwork[/quote]You know you have an odd effect on me or perhaps just in general and I am sorry if this sounds creepy or entitled or whatever but you make me want to be a woman just so I can find the people that you have found and just make so many of their days total crap. I have worked in the food industry and for all jokes that just "Women belong in the kitchen make me a sandwich" or whatever many of them are pretty damn sexist despite being you know bloody [b]kitchens[/b]. Then you have tech and even video games and it just is not there for me in which case it may just be luck of the draw and if you do not cook then may our fortunes change case I want to chew whoever made you this passionate about the subject just cry for days I have done it to chefs I will so it to anyone.

Sorry that was a rant, I had a bad day but it is fine now I just needed to rant.[/quote]

Ya know just cause someone's acting like a sexist dickhead their not essentially monsters. They're ignorant. Ya gotta drop some science on a mother fucker, be all Morpheous like with the Red/Blue pills.

Thats how you change people yo. Just ripping into a dude is just going to make them more resentful and narrowminded. Patience, not anger.

 

[WindKnight]

At best, she displayed a complete inability to keep situations in perspective and act like a mature adult, and at worst she acted like a self-righteous ***** from hell who made mountains out of molehills specifically to garner attention for herself and tarnished the name of feminism worldwide, costing herself and several others their jobs for no real gain.

Lets not forget that about the same time, a 9 year old girl attended a conference to demonstrate her app... and had to sit through demonstrations of Titstare, an app for taking photos of yourself staring at breasts, and another app that was demonstrated by miming masturbation. Thats the kind of 'classy humour' the dongle guys we're reinforcing, and the kind of situation she was talking out against.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

At best, she displayed a complete inability to keep situations in perspective and act like a mature adult, and at worst she acted like a self-righteous ***** from hell who made mountains out of molehills specifically to garner attention for herself and tarnished the name of feminism worldwide, costing herself and several others their jobs for no real gain.

Lets not forget that about the same time, a 9 year old girl attended a conference to demonstrate her app... and had to sit through demonstrations of Titstare, an app for taking photos of yourself staring at breasts, and another app that was demonstrated by miming masturbation. Thats the kind of 'classy humour' the dongle guys we're reinforcing, and the kind of situation she was talking out against.

Okay Titstare sounds pretty sexist even though I don't fully understand the concept... take pictures of yourself staring at breast or is it a cam for gals to take pictures of blokes staring at their boobs? Sounds insidious either way.

but the jerk off motion? That's sexist now? I mean it's crass to be sure, and not appropriate for a 9 year old regardless of age but that supports the male patriarchy? Maybe I'm missing the point, which is just as likely.

 

[WindKnight]

but the jerk off motion? That's sexist now? I mean it's crass to be sure, and not appropriate for a 9 year old regardless of age but that supports the male patriarchy? Maybe I'm missing the point, which is just as likely.

It doesn't exactly make women feel welcome when your demonstration is basically whacking off in front of them.

 

[tangoprime]

no Idea

what bothers me about this is sexism in the tech industry is a very real and insidious problem, I'm not one to tell people how they should feel but this kind of made a joke of it, distracting from worse sexism and brought all the slimy sexists out the woodwork

The whole deal is fairly exhausting on me head. Why ordinary decent people can't just seem to treat each other respectfully. Granted I'm not sleeping well lately and working early, thus I'm constantly on here reading these things so they float in my mind during the day far more then most.

My favorite part was where she got super offended by someone making fun of a silly word (seriously, try to tell a teacher that their projector's not working because their dongle isn't working in front of a class of high schoolers) and went for the nuclear option, when on her own FB page she had pictures from earlier in the same conference of her and some friends sitting in a common area playing Cards Against Humanity. But, I guess as par for the course, the only ones who can be offensive are White Males.

 

[WindKnight]

My favorite part was where she got super offended by someone making fun of a silly word (seriously, try to tell a teacher that their projector's not working because their dongle isn't working in front of a class of high schoolers) and went for the nuclear option, when on her own FB page she had pictures from earlier in the same conference of her and some friends sitting in a common area playing Cards Against Humanity. But, I guess as par for the course, the only ones who can be offensive are White Males.

There's a bit of a difference between goofing off with friends in downtime and goofing off in the middle of a talk where your supposed to be professional and representing your company.

 

[Qizx]

It's unclear. Her LinkedIn account I mean. Last job update was in 2013, around the time of Donglegate I imagine. She's still active though, on Twitter at least. Seems she takes speaking engagements now.

Dear God I hate LinkedIn. Look what you made me do! Now I have to wash away the grime of LinkedIn with a picture of that cute dog that was raised with cats and therefore thinks it's a cat.

Spoiler: Ahhhhh.

Awwwww.
[/spoiler][/QUOTE]

Terrible to think her 15 minutes would make her unemployable... The story wasn't that large was it? I mean it's not like it was on CNN.[/quote]

At best, she displayed a complete inability to keep situations in perspective and act like a mature adult, and at worst she acted like a self-righteous ***** from hell who made mountains out of molehills specifically to garner attention for herself and tarnished the name of feminism worldwide, costing herself and several others their jobs for no real gain.

She had a history of brewing social media shitstorms over non-issues even before donglegate, and her gloating over getting one of the guys fired on her website is what sealed the deal for me. Absolute self-absorbed *****, through and through. I wouldn't ever hire her. She wouldn't be worthy of representing my company at any event, even if she somehow learned to keep her fucking mouth shut. Just a despicable human being, determined to spread misery to all around her at any cost.[/quote]

This, I agree with this SO much. Two guys said a stupid joke to each other, she overheard it, flipped shit, got them fired for it. Now if the joke had been REALLY REALLY bad maybe then it's warranted (I mean something along the lines of "Wow she needs a good raping" or something that bad) but as it stands she overreacted horribly. Should they have made the joke? Probably not, but that being said people technically shouldn't be making ANY jokes at a serious business event.

If what was said about her starting other shitstorms before this is true, she seemed to be a professional shitstorm starter.

 

[DANEgerous]

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Granted but, yeah these guys tended to be rather persistent. This was not a passing joke where as the incident mentioned definitely was so good point overall and it brings up a bit of a mine field being that a joke like the one made getting attention undermines sexism. One woman found a harmless joke offensive threw a fit and people called her over reaction what it was so they got fired. Meanwhile people that actually intend to offend women get this boys will be boys bullshit. It is what I may call a "Rebecca Watson dilemma" with her quotes about how guys that have no interest in feminism are worse than rape threats or how being asked out for coffee is sexual harassment. Saying that shit harms women. It literally states that a lack of interest in what she has to say is worse than the threat of rape and that saying some one is interesting and you want coffee is harassment "Donglegate" falls into the same category. When you label a joke as harassment you invoke and often overlook actual harassment.