Because most of what i have heard from rap music from cars gong by my house seems to be using a racial slur and such.
Anyone know why rap seems more popular than metal?
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And most of metal sounds like angry rage. As a black person I like both but not the new stuff. New rap I can't stand and new metal I just can't be bothered. Gimme some old skool music in both genres and I'll be a happy lil girl.
Not all metal is screaming. Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden,Kamelot,Metallica,and Nightwish are metal and they don't have screaming in their songs.undeadsuitor said:
Good taste? All joking aside, it's just a difference of preference. It does strike me as pretty funny that your main complaint seems to be rap's use of racial slurs though, seeing as that is almost exclusively black people using a slur for black people.
To poorly paraphrase George Carlin: you know how the black person saying a slur for black people doesn't hate black people? They're black themselves.
To poorly paraphrase George Carlin: you know how the black person saying a slur for black people doesn't hate black people? They're black themselves.
I always saw it as a simple question of demographics, rap stereotypically appeals to wanna be thugs and tough guys (not always black dudes either), and that's seen as cooler then metal for most, so the music might appeal in turn.
Whereas metal..Be honest, were the cool kids at your school into metal? At every school i attended to anyways, the height of coolness was being thug like and "gangsta", which means liking rap.
There's probably a lot more reasons, such as good rap genuinely appealing to those who live a rough life or might be more reflective of reality and culture for those living "in the hood/ghetto", but i'm not exactly an expert on these things, these are just some of my bs theories to help explain it cos i think there's more to it then simple musical preference, otherwise why do so many people "in the hood" like rap almost exclusively?
Whereas metal..Be honest, were the cool kids at your school into metal? At every school i attended to anyways, the height of coolness was being thug like and "gangsta", which means liking rap.
There's probably a lot more reasons, such as good rap genuinely appealing to those who live a rough life or might be more reflective of reality and culture for those living "in the hood/ghetto", but i'm not exactly an expert on these things, these are just some of my bs theories to help explain it cos i think there's more to it then simple musical preference, otherwise why do so many people "in the hood" like rap almost exclusively?
Because it's easier to make into club remixes and easier to dance to? Because it's easier to listen to due to its inherently repetitive structure, softer sound and lack of instrumentation? Because it's often less complex? Because it's about wealth or power fantasies more often than metal and can thus appeal to a lower common denominator? Because it's easier to find on the charts? Because it's much more widely spread due to the ease of its production (basically all you need is a guy who can beatbox, and another guy to say the lyrics)?
Honestly, how is this even a question? I much prefer metal over rap music overall, but I have no difficulty identifying why rap is mainstream globally and metal is not. And I live in Finland, the country with the most metal bands per capita in the world.
Honestly, how is this even a question? I much prefer metal over rap music overall, but I have no difficulty identifying why rap is mainstream globally and metal is not. And I live in Finland, the country with the most metal bands per capita in the world.
Both are popular enough. I wouldn't complain if either were neglected in favor of more interesting music.
I only know Japanese music stuff which is dominated by pop but there is a lot of power metal too. Rap seems very rare and while I like most of it, it tends to be a lot different in subject matter, has no relationship with illegal activities etc. Like, think of the FLCL ending Ride the lobster, something like that lol. Or maybe Persona 3 music.
It may just be an american thing, since all of the nonjapanese metal I like is also nonamerican, stemming from Europe. I love me some dragonforce.
It may just be an american thing, since all of the nonjapanese metal I like is also nonamerican, stemming from Europe. I love me some dragonforce.
Mostly popular stuff is what's played in clubs. You don't really get that much metal played in clubs. Not regular clubs anyway.
Metal can be offputting to newcomers because of the shouting. And yeah I know it's not all shouting, but let's be honest- there is a lot of shouting.
My parents are pretty big into metal, which is probably why I'm not really into it any more, though I grew up listening to it. It's hard for something to stay cool when your parents love it.
Metal can be offputting to newcomers because of the shouting. And yeah I know it's not all shouting, but let's be honest- there is a lot of shouting.
My parents are pretty big into metal, which is probably why I'm not really into it any more, though I grew up listening to it. It's hard for something to stay cool when your parents love it.
Metal can't become too popular, because then it wouldn't be true and kvlt anymore.
In all honesty though, I'm guessing rap is simply the more meanstream genre because it lends itself better to dancing, being played in clubs and such.
In all honesty though, I'm guessing rap is simply the more meanstream genre because it lends itself better to dancing, being played in clubs and such.
I agree with the ideas postulating that being able to do club and dance remixes are a big reason for it's popularity. Sabaton are fucking awesome and I imagine 'Sparta' would get the mosh pit riled up like nothing else but I can't see myself dancing to it at a wedding or a house party. Well, not a run of the mill one anyway.
Because metal is pretty lame.
Now, there's nothing wrong with being lame, I've spent several decades now doing that and it's working out pretty well, but you've got to own your own lameness instead of pretending everyone else is just too lame to realize how cool the lame stuff you like is.
Okay, now I've alienated half the forum, why have I done that?
Essentially, metal as a genre (and I know there are exceptions to every rule, especially in a genre which is genuinely international and as diverse as metal) consists of a bunch of people, overwhelmingly white (at least in Europe and the USA) and disproportionately middle class, who, for some reason, deliberately set out to distinguish themselves from mainstream culture, who affected a style of dress, music and even aesthetics which emphasised rebellion against tradition and conformity.
Rap as a genre (and in this case, there are actually a lot of exceptions to the rule) consists of a bunch of people of different ethnicities and backgrounds, but in my experience what unites a lot of them is that many never had the luxury of being able to distance themselves from mainstream culture. They are people for whom fitting in is a matter of emotional or physical survival. It speaks, not just to the black urban audience it was originally designed for, but to anyone who feels betrayed or disadvantaged by the modern world, a world which constantly tells you that material possessions and hedonistic excess is the path to happiness, but who doesn't have the security to simply detach from that world into a nice, safe fantasy. In that sense, rap is more brutal than metal will ever be. Even when some dickhead is just talking about how much money he made selling crack and how he's going to buy loads of nice cars and have sex with your girlfriend (specifically your girlfriend, for some reason) he's still ultimately talking about a world in which that constitutes the only means of winning, and that world is harsh because it is in some ways the one we live in.
I mean, by "we" I mean not me specifically, I'm white and have a trust fund so of course I listened to metal, and you bet I thought I was better and deeper and more thoughtful than everyone else because I did. But then, I had the luxury of being allowed to think like that. I chose to be an outsider to mainstream culture, and I did that because it's actually a lot easier than trying to live within it and failing.
Now, there's nothing wrong with being lame, I've spent several decades now doing that and it's working out pretty well, but you've got to own your own lameness instead of pretending everyone else is just too lame to realize how cool the lame stuff you like is.
Okay, now I've alienated half the forum, why have I done that?
Essentially, metal as a genre (and I know there are exceptions to every rule, especially in a genre which is genuinely international and as diverse as metal) consists of a bunch of people, overwhelmingly white (at least in Europe and the USA) and disproportionately middle class, who, for some reason, deliberately set out to distinguish themselves from mainstream culture, who affected a style of dress, music and even aesthetics which emphasised rebellion against tradition and conformity.
Rap as a genre (and in this case, there are actually a lot of exceptions to the rule) consists of a bunch of people of different ethnicities and backgrounds, but in my experience what unites a lot of them is that many never had the luxury of being able to distance themselves from mainstream culture. They are people for whom fitting in is a matter of emotional or physical survival. It speaks, not just to the black urban audience it was originally designed for, but to anyone who feels betrayed or disadvantaged by the modern world, a world which constantly tells you that material possessions and hedonistic excess is the path to happiness, but who doesn't have the security to simply detach from that world into a nice, safe fantasy. In that sense, rap is more brutal than metal will ever be. Even when some dickhead is just talking about how much money he made selling crack and how he's going to buy loads of nice cars and have sex with your girlfriend (specifically your girlfriend, for some reason) he's still ultimately talking about a world in which that constitutes the only means of winning, and that world is harsh because it is in some ways the one we live in.
I mean, by "we" I mean not me specifically, I'm white and have a trust fund so of course I listened to metal, and you bet I thought I was better and deeper and more thoughtful than everyone else because I did. But then, I had the luxury of being allowed to think like that. I chose to be an outsider to mainstream culture, and I did that because it's actually a lot easier than trying to live within it and failing.
Well, for both genres, you get the good and the bad. Variety and intelligent writing is what I'd say defines the good, Australian rap band Hilltop Hoods are probably a good middle ground there, as long as they haven't become too over-produced now. DubFx is a mixture, but talented. Some inner city rap artists that write about societal problems and public perceptions of lower class living do exist, and are forever overshadowed by the mainstream groups that appeal to lowest common denominator emotions...Same as all genres that aim mainstream, so it's no use picking out rap. Good rap is more like poetry with a beat, bad rap is some narcissistic illiterate idiot trying to be a musician. Rap, like blues, originally was fueled by anger and sadness at the state of the world they found themselves within. Just as much anger, if not more than metal. The problems in these genres are the people cherry picked and promoted for style over substance by powerful publishers. Who vocalise lyrics they don't even believe in, who are marketed more as sex idols with a catchy theme tune instead of passionate artists wanting to inspire the public to think about the world. Sex with a catchy tune and a model is a good sell to hormonal teens and lonely peeps. Don't underestimate that.
Nah, what you need is rap-metal. A wonderful fusion of funky riffs and ire directed at political failures of the western world. Not mentioning any names as it may be obvious to those those in the know, but anyone who seeks to play the guitar or drums or bass will only benefit from trying out certain unmentioned artists.
Also I hear a lot of good about Immortal Technique, only heard a couple so far but seems to check out enough if you listen past the initially dark tone. Haven't listened to either genre in a while though as been concentrating on personal projects that get easily influenced by my audio input, if that makes any sense whatsoever.
Nah, what you need is rap-metal. A wonderful fusion of funky riffs and ire directed at political failures of the western world. Not mentioning any names as it may be obvious to those those in the know, but anyone who seeks to play the guitar or drums or bass will only benefit from trying out certain unmentioned artists.
Also I hear a lot of good about Immortal Technique, only heard a couple so far but seems to check out enough if you listen past the initially dark tone. Haven't listened to either genre in a while though as been concentrating on personal projects that get easily influenced by my audio input, if that makes any sense whatsoever.
I am sad there has not been an original Orchestral Music Score that is not associated with a Movie or Video Game's soundtrack.
Most music is shit honestly.
But I live in a very sad, little world of mine.
I used to be REALLY into metal music, almost exclusively, but since then it's kind of gotten...samey.
I've since moved to only purchasing individual songs I think sound good, regardless of genre, and very rarely ever buy full albums because I only end up listening to one or two songs off the album anyway.
Anyway, I usually disassociate myself with people who only listen to rap and hip-hop exclusively. Any of those people I knew ended up being bland, boring people who are into football and do really obnoxious shit with the excuse of "A'int nobody can tell me what to do."
But I live in a very sad, little world of mine.
I used to be REALLY into metal music, almost exclusively, but since then it's kind of gotten...samey.
I've since moved to only purchasing individual songs I think sound good, regardless of genre, and very rarely ever buy full albums because I only end up listening to one or two songs off the album anyway.
Anyway, I usually disassociate myself with people who only listen to rap and hip-hop exclusively. Any of those people I knew ended up being bland, boring people who are into football and do really obnoxious shit with the excuse of "A'int nobody can tell me what to do."
Because it's okay for white people to listen to it now. Before it was "N****r" music, and was regarded as such.
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Ehh, I think Rap is actually closer to country than metal. Metal seems more like its about frustration over certain things in life. Rap seems more like frustration over the situation of life, like country. Keep in mind though, I'm not huge on any kind of music I just mentioned. The only metal I like is Dethklok, the only rap I like is Ludicrous and the only country I like is from the movie The Best Little Whore House in TX.
