Apple Patents Holographic TV Screen Tech

[SturmDolch]

I saw the 2d version of Legacy

And this makes you qualified to talk about the 3D technology used in Tron: Legacy how..? There were no jump out scenes. Maybe I missed them, but if I did, I wonder how you caught them when you saw the movie in 2D.

CGI Jeff Bridges looked very good and realistic. I have no idea what you're on about there. Besides, did you notice that the movie took place inside a computer!? And that the "CGI Jeff Bridges" aka C.L.U. was a program, not a person? It doesn't matter if he doesn't look 100% like a human because he isn't one!

Put aside the fact that no form of 3d I've tried has worked for me *for some reason Pseudo 3d has never worked for me and I have 20/20* Pseudo 3d is a gimmick because of the blinding headaches I get if I force my self to watch Pseudo 3d products for longer then 5 minutes.

There you go. 3D doesn't work for you. This happens in a small percent of the population. It messes with my eyes a bit, too, but I can see it. And if you can see it, it looks pretty cool. Having 20/20 vision doesn't make a difference. I wear glasses and I can see it. Some people just can't. Your personal, physical inability to use it (that is not your fault by the way) does not make it a gimmick.

 

[Danpascooch]

Apple plans on combining the dome technology and 3D scanners to allow TVs to find their viewer's eyes, and beam the images straight to where they are. This would also allow use by multiple viewers, all without glasses.

So they want to make PIXEL SIZED refractors, that can CHOOSE WHERE THEY REFRACT THE IMAGES TO!? And they want to combine all of this with a 3-D scanner to locate left and right eyes!?

First of all, I still don't see how this will work for multiple people, I see how it could work for one person, but not for 2+

Secondly:

"This just in, the iTV is now out for a reasonable $75,000"

You are overthinking this. Apple is patent squating here. That way when somone actually produces market viable autostereoscopic tech, they can sue them.

I don't think they'll get much out of this patent, there are too many moving parts for this to be cost effective.

 

[Danpascooch]

"This just in, the iTV is now out for a reasonable $75,000"

"In Related news, dozens of other companies are doing the exact same thing (only without massive swarms of haters for some reason.)"

I was actually referring to the fact that this design is insanely over complicated, and thus will probably be way out of the price range for a consumer, but if you want to turn this into an Apple debate, enjoy your flamewar.

Nothing they make is ever compatable with the industry standards, hell, they can't even share the same CHARGING PORTS with their mobile devices and the rest of the market, if they ever decided to use a micro USB I guess Steve Job's head would explode because it isn't needlessly different enough, it's just so that if you lose/break/need a cable or anything else you have to buy THEIR version (which is often inferior, such as their file system, ever notice when you get a new external harddrive how it sometimes can't handle files that are too big? Thank Apple "having to be different" for that, if they just used NTFS like EVERYONE ELSE they could handle files up in the EXOBYTES) it's total bullshit. And if we're on price, have you ever compared the specs on a new Macbook to an ASUS laptop of the same price? I did, that's why I'm typing this from my ASUS laptop.

So yeah, they are a little different from "other companies"

 

[mjc0961]

Now alert me when the tech is used for something other than gimmicky eye-candy like Avatar and Tron.

All the tech is is gimmicky eye candy. If the ever find a way do to something useful with this nonsense, I will be quite impressed because I'm just not seeing any practical use for this stuff.

"This just in, the iTV is now out for a reasonable $75,000"

And sadly people will buy it anyway, just because it has a picture of a partially eaten fruit on it.

 

[Ender910_v1legacy]

If I recall a patent is pretty much legal nonsense unless there's an actual prototype or product to back it up. If anything I'd wager a guess that this is more of a marketing/stock related ploy than anything legally oriented.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Um, this sounds like a badly planned copy of a design held by a company called SeeReal

No, seriously: http://www.seereal.com/en/holography/holography_technology.php

I mean, are patents so specific that Apple can just ignore this (undoubtedly patented) technology that has already existed in prototype form for at least 3 years now?

How does that work?

 

[Baldr]

Lets see, the patent office is about 5-8 years behind, there could be multiple patents by different companies for the same technology, they are usually awarded first come, first granted.

This technology is about 5-10 years away. Could be sooner, they usually don't wait for the patents to go through, but it roughly the same development period from the drawings to the actual working products for most high-tech stuff.

Speaking of Holographic: About a year or two we should see the blu-ray replacement: HVD hitting the market.

 

[SelectivelyEvil13]

Until someone can somehow make this "3D" viable for people who cannot see the current 3D because of a problem with one or both eyes/headaches/other reasons, I couldn't really care less what Apple tries to claim ownership over. Besides, no matter what, the iSee will be so bloody expensive that it will require a down payment of your first-born, require its own specific digital files from the iStore that literally flips you off if you try and use any other non-Apple device, and all to be supplanted the next year by the cheaper model that comes equipped with Wifi and a pudding dispenser.

 

[guardian001]

if they just used NTFS like ONLY MICROSOFT AND ABSOLUTELY NOBODY ELSE

Fixed that for you. Sorry, can't have you being blatantly wrong in front of me. Simply won't do. Only Microsoft actually uses NTFS. As to file sizes:
Apple Uses HFS+ (max file size 8 ExiBytes)
Microsoft uses NTFS(Technically capable of 16EiB/file, Limited by Microsoft to 16TB/file)
Linux Variants use EXT[1-4] (max file size 16 TB.) Linux technically supports pretty much every file system, but EXT4 is the most used.

I hate Apple too, but please, try not to be wrong while doing so.


OT (Because seriously, this is pretty off topic...):
Interesting. Shame they probably won't ever actually use that patent, since I doubt the technology exists. Even if it does, I very much doubt it's cost effective.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

While I've never been a big proponent of 3D, I must admit that the idea of glasses-free, uninhibited 3D TV is something I can get excited for. Now alert me when the tech is used for something other than gimmicky eye-candy like Avatar and Tron.

Erm.. in TRON Legacy.

Or didn't you watch the same movie I did?
About the first 30 min was without any 3D at all (intentionally),
it was only when entering the TRON world that everything was 3D again, except for at the very end again.
And the 3D in TRON Legacy was very subtle, after a while, just like with a good movie score you forget that it's there.

Now Avatar and the like I agree with as they tend to throw objects in your face,
or worse, some movies may have fake 3D (2D to 3D conversion).

But TRON Legacy did not. It used more evolved camera techniques than Avatar. And the 3D effect was used to add depth rather than the more typical "pop out" effect.

If anything TRON Legacy is the benchmark that future 3D movies must match or surpass,
as in TRON Legacy the 3D is simply just another element of the story telling, as it should be.

While all this is relatively true, you have to remember that tron was crap. Also, if actually utilising the 3D is gimmicky, and by using it subtly you don't notice it, what is it for exactly? It obviously serves no purpose, and is just another gimmick to make money. And it works because there are people not unlike you who go "Whoa! the image is coming out of the screen! Cool!" when it doesn't actually have a purpose for the film. The tron thing was cool, but apart from being a cool idea, it was pointless.

tl;dr: 3D exists to make nerds pay extra so companies make money, and it doesn't enhance the film in any way

 

[blankedboy]

Sony just got boned. Apple will overprice the said TV's. Good luck people.

boldtextwut

Hokay, so I can imagine this being a massive success and people paying around $6,000 for each set. Just because Apple have a marketing team and no other electronics company in the world has one. Good job.
I'm sure this has already been invented by about 5 companies that were too shy to patent or release the technology. Nothing happens if you don't do anything. Yeesh. Now Apple gets to rake in more money! Great.

Also, I really need to post this.
"has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more look like?"

 

[gl1koz3]

Wouldn't inserting mini-screens into eyes themselves easier? Imagine a mini screen in your eye. Then all you'd need is to sit in front of a white surface and connect yourself using USB3.0.

 

[Shinkada]

The thing I love the most is that Apple will inevitably **** up the product, sell more than anyone else, and every other company will then in turn INTENTIONALLY **** up the product to make it look more like the Apple reject.

Seriously. A huge thanks to everyone responsible (ie everyone that owns any Apple product) for the fact that a few years ago I could modify my mobile phone in just about any way I want, and today, I cannot, DESPITE NOT OWNING AN APPLE PHONE. Oh, and the fact that I have to download an invasive, obtrusive, inefficient, space-devouring Sony program just to create playlists for my PSP (as opposed to, I don't know, copying a playlist file onto my PSP).

And a pre-emptive thanks to everyone responsible for making me have to download [brand] software to watch regular TV on my 3DTV.

 

[manaman]

Apple plans on combining the dome technology and 3D scanners to allow TVs to find their viewer's eyes, and beam the images straight to where they are. This would also allow use by multiple viewers, all without glasses.

So they want to make PIXEL SIZED refractors, that can CHOOSE WHERE THEY REFRACT THE IMAGES TO!? And they want to combine all of this with a 3-D scanner to locate left and right eyes!?

First of all, I still don't see how this will work for multiple people, I see how it could work for one person, but not for 2+

Secondly:

"This just in, the iTV is now out for a reasonable $75,000"

You are forgetting that the little "i" in front of TV adds an extra $24,999.

"This just in, the iTV is now out for a reasonable $99,999."

The way the patent system seems to be abused these days I have to wonder if they can actually demonstrate this as possible, or if some worker bee for them whipped up the idea on his lunch break and they went out and patented it.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

The thing I love the most is that Apple will inevitably **** up the product, sell more than anyone else, and every other company will then in turn INTENTIONALLY **** up the product to make it look more like the Apple reject.

Seriously. A huge thanks to everyone responsible (ie everyone that owns any Apple product) for the fact that a few years ago I could modify my mobile phone in just about any way I want, and today, I cannot, DESPITE NOT OWNING AN APPLE PHONE. Oh, and the fact that I have to download an invasive, obtrusive, inefficient, space-devouring Sony program just to create playlists for my PSP (as opposed to, I don't know, copying a playlist file onto my PSP).

And a pre-emptive thanks to everyone responsible for making me have to download [brand] software to watch regular TV on my 3DTV.

I'm typing this on my Mac

 

[Cryo84R]

The thing I love the most is that Apple will inevitably **** up the product, sell more than anyone else, and every other company will then in turn INTENTIONALLY **** up the product to make it look more like the Apple reject.

Seriously. A huge thanks to everyone responsible (ie everyone that owns any Apple product) for the fact that a few years ago I could modify my mobile phone in just about any way I want, and today, I cannot, DESPITE NOT OWNING AN APPLE PHONE. Oh, and the fact that I have to download an invasive, obtrusive, inefficient, space-devouring Sony program just to create playlists for my PSP (as opposed to, I don't know, copying a playlist file onto my PSP).

And a pre-emptive thanks to everyone responsible for making me have to download [brand] software to watch regular TV on my 3DTV.

Typing this from my iPhone.

 

[Bluesclues]

"This just in, the iTV is now out for a reasonable $75,000"

"In Related news, dozens of other companies are doing the exact same thing (only without massive swarms of haters for some reason.)"

I was actually referring to the fact that this design is insanely over complicated, and thus will probably be way out of the price range for a consumer, but if you want to turn this into an Apple debate, enjoy your flamewar.

Nothing they make is ever compatable with the industry standards, hell, they can't even share the same CHARGING PORTS with their mobile devices and the rest of the market, if they ever decided to use a micro USB I guess Steve Job's head would explode because it isn't needlessly different enough, it's just so that if you lose/break/need a cable or anything else you have to buy THEIR version (which is often inferior, such as their file system, ever notice when you get a new external harddrive how it sometimes can't handle files that are too big? Thank Apple "having to be different" for that, if they just used NTFS like EVERYONE ELSE they could handle files up in the EXOBYTES) it's total bullshit. And if we're on price, have you ever compared the specs on a new Macbook to an ASUS laptop of the same price? I did, that's why I'm typing this from my ASUS laptop.

So yeah, they are a little different from "other companies"

Dear lord, is there anywhere Aeshi will go without him lighting up his iFlame?

OT: The idea sounds kinda cool I suppose, but I don't think I really trust Apple with it. They have a knack for making the gimmicky even more gimmicky. Not that I'm saying 3D is gimmicky >.>

 

[Aeshi]

"This just in, the iTV is now out for a reasonable $75,000"

"In Related news, dozens of other companies are doing the exact same thing (only without massive swarms of haters for some reason.)"

I was actually referring to the fact that this design is insanely over complicated, and thus will probably be way out of the price range for a consumer, but if you want to turn this into an Apple debate, enjoy your flamewar.

Nothing they make is ever compatable with the industry standards, hell, they can't even share the same CHARGING PORTS with their mobile devices and the rest of the market, if they ever decided to use a micro USB I guess Steve Job's head would explode because it isn't needlessly different enough, it's just so that if you lose/break/need a cable or anything else you have to buy THEIR version (which is often inferior, such as their file system, ever notice when you get a new external harddrive how it sometimes can't handle files that are too big? Thank Apple "having to be different" for that, if they just used NTFS like EVERYONE ELSE they could handle files up in the EXOBYTES) it's total bullshit. And if we're on price, have you ever compared the specs on a new Macbook to an ASUS laptop of the same price? I did, that's why I'm typing this from my ASUS laptop.

So yeah, they are a little different from "other companies"

Dear lord, is there anywhere Aeshi will go without him lighting up his iFlame?

OT: The idea sounds kinda cool I suppose, but I don't think I really trust Apple with it. They have a knack for making the gimmicky even more gimmicky. Not that I'm saying 3D is gimmicky >.>

Is there any thread that has the word "Apple" in it that won't get swarmed by every MS/Linux/Whatever worshiper, their Dog and their Dog's chew toy saying how much Apple sucks and is evil for doing things every company does?

Or does not mindlessly bashing like said worshipers make me a fanboy?