Are anime monster girls designs boring

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loa

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Nile McMorrow said:
So are Dark Souls Monster Girls more of your thing?


Gotta get that spider booty.
Big fuzzy butts and legs for days. Mmmh
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
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What, you prefered it to be like an actual monster/ beast/ animal upper body but with sexy anime girl legs or something?
Something like this

Isn't that just a cute generic girl with bestial ears or horns though?

For truly monsterous you look to:
which is genuanly disturbing and I have actualy had people complain when I used to have the manga cover with her on facing out in my stall.

But yeah your right, for the most part anime monster girls seem to just be girls with ears or horns or tails of animals.
 

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Bobular said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Scarim Coral said:
What, you prefered it to be like an actual monster/ beast/ animal upper body but with sexy anime girl legs or something?
Something like this

Isn't that just a cute generic girl with bestial ears or horns though?

For truly monsterous you look to:
which is genuanly disturbing and I have actualy had people complain when I used to have the manga cover with her on facing out in my stall.

But yeah your right, for the most part anime monster girls seem to just be girls with ears or horns or tails of animals.
At least with the character that I'm showing she has fur but good choice with the spider woman she has a nice design.

Also another good monster design I found was Asui Tsuyu from My hero academia and while she isn't bestail she is at least a little weird looking

 

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I don't know, when I see an "anime monster girl" I find it to be really disappointing since most of the time its basically a cute generic girl with bestial ears or horns. Thoughts
PRETTY MUCH, YEAH.



What Dreiko says is true, there are some japanese works that make... an attempt at creating more "monsterous" female creatures, but really they're either killed, temporary, or just generally disappear as soon as they arrive. You could literally count them on your digits.

Personally, I wouldn't really count Song of Saya or Parasite (I think that's the name of the anime where a guy's sister is turned into a man-eating bug, I think) in the design aspect, but characteristically, yeah, they're good. Monster Musume, Dragon Maid, and some other manga and shows that I can barely remember do a pretty good job at showing off different monstergirls. I mean, to me, a female monster is more than just the design, she's personality, instincts, attitude; SOMETHING DIFFERENT than all the other "normal" smiling, doll-eyed, mush-brained, jello-sacks than populate that world. If literally the only thing separating a female "monster" or a regular human (or even an elven) girl is a single article of clothing than have fucking failed at making a monster.
 

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loa said:
Yeah it's pretty lame how like merle from escaflowne is the most animal-esque "catgirl" gets.
Fur is like woah, super edgy and rare, good luck finding that and changing facial features to be less generic animeperson is unicorn levels of rarity.

Japan completely half-asses their "anthros". Bloody weebs.
Does Polt count?

 

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I'm always one to get a bit peeved when a shitty Kemonomimi is called a monster girl.
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
At least with the character that I'm showing she has fur
That isn't fur if you're refering the side part of her arm. I think she has spiky arms.
 

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Bobular said:
Isn't that just a cute generic girl with bestial ears or horns though?

For truly monsterous you look to:
which is genuanly disturbing and I have actualy had people complain when I used to have the manga cover with her on facing out in my stall.

But yeah your right, for the most part anime monster girls seem to just be girls with ears or horns or tails of animals.
You know, I just don't see it. Take a razor to her backside and all you get is an extra from Ah My Goddess. Maybe it's more monstery in motion?
 

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Yes. Most of them are generic cute girls with animal parts attached, and it is most egregious when they show the males from their races.

Although I would not consider it exclusive to anime. Games, even in the west, do it all the time:

 

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Yes. Most of them are generic cute girls with animal parts attached, and it is most egregious when they show the males from their races.

Although I would not consider it exclusive to anime. Games, even in the west, do it all the time:

It gets even worse when you realize the massive retcon they did to accomodate that hottie appearance. Look at Draenai in WC3 as compared to WoW. Heck, the worst is the worgen because they actually did have femal worgen prior to Cata, they looked just like the males but after cata. Generic hot anthro babe.

That's what I like about Everquest. Give the game credit for letting you create an ugly as sin female troll or ogre.
 

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hermes said:
Yes. Most of them are generic cute girls with animal parts attached, and it is most egregious when they show the males from their races.

Although I would not consider it exclusive to anime. Games, even in the west, do it all the time:

To be fair, that dude isn't exactly super monstrous, either.

In fact, this smacks of Gargoyles.

But I like art like this, sometimes. It's fun to draw. I just also like it when some monstrous races are less dimorphic (and not human at all).
 

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Is there a resource of monster boys/guys? Asking for a friend.
 

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Well it is mostly a womans upper torso being spliced with an animal lower half
 

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MonsterCrit said:
It gets even worse when you realize the massive retcon they did to accomodate that hottie appearance. Look at Draenai in WC3 as compared to WoW. Heck, the worst is the worgen because they actually did have femal worgen prior to Cata, they looked just like the males but after cata. Generic hot anthro babe.

Although in the defense of WoW, while the ladies definitely tend to err more on the side of what we're describing in the Draenei example above, let me also point out the female tauren, which does follow the same principal, but noticeably not as much.

 

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Although in the defense of WoW, while the ladies definitely tend to err more on the side of what we're describing in the Draenei example above, let me also point out the female tauren, which does follow the same principal, but noticeably not as much.

Actually, that is pretty cool! Never really got into WoW, so pardon my ignorance.

Would be better if they had udders instead of breasts, but you know, she might be less practical in a fight if the udders were getting in the way. Are the female tauren's horns smaller than the males? I assume they are less bulky overall as well, but still, they look pretty physical, and monstrous enough.
 

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what am i looking at here?
Monster girl shit runs the gambit between humanity and the grotesque depending on artist. a good example of this say MGQ for the weirdness, the same game simultaneously has pretty human looking creatures and fucked up shit like the deepsea creatures chimera and the like with clear breaks in artistic style.
Honestly a lot of this thread reads to me like something I'd expect on /d/, "this creature is to attractive too normies i want something that caters to my own brand of strangess" which is fine... i guess you do you. I should modify that, it's like normies this is too normie to me because outside of the mainstream there is definitely things that cater to your tastes, my tastes too. honestly i've seen weird shit

But it seems to miss the point for me, part of this is wank material the other part is empathizing with strange creatures by connecting it to something almost everyone loves, other people, hell even sad misanthropes love them, case and point /tg/, /d/,etc. A lot of it is made by lonely mildly autistic nerds for lonely which is likely why there is such a gambit to run between quality and oddity. As far as i can see it, if you find it generic then either you've not dug quite deep enough or you've dug way too far.


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You see, the creators need to make their characters likable, and relatable enough, to make people want to continue watching the show / game they star in. Say all you want about desiring more girls to appear as actual monsters, but it'll be a much harder job on the creators end. Sure they could invest time in developing that character's personality and backstory, but if people don't give them the chance based off appearance ... well, the effort will be all for naught.
I'm quite fond of her myself, even with my own raging fear of spiders.
Oh and solid post all together, i won't expect /monster/ to do better themselves

[HEADING=3]TOO LONG; DIDN'T READ:[/HEADING] Make it human enough where people can feel it's okay to dig it, but unique enough to not be dull. A lot of artists / creators play it safe by adding little to no animal / beast like traits so people don't consider it beastality or weird.
and some add to much to the point that the entire thing looks like it waltzed out of kingdom death. At that point it's a new fucking monster in of in itself and it's fucking horrifying, angler I'm looking at you, again jesus
 

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the December King said:
Would be better if they had udders instead of breasts, but you know, she might be less practical in a fight if the udders were getting in the way. Are the female tauren's horns smaller than the males? I assume they are less bulky overall as well, but still, they look pretty physical, and monstrous enough.
Yeah, the males typically have larger horns and are a little bit more bulky, but not to the extreme difference like the male and female space goats (Draenei) go. There are even some types that are more moose-like.

As for why they don't have utters, I think it could be an explanation similar to why the khajiit of Elder Scrolls only have two breasts. In addition to the point you made above about it being impractical in a fight, it would also make a creature that stands upright very front-heavy and would throw off their center of gravity too much (Causing all sorts of medical issues in the process).


While I don't actually know if the creators of these races took this stuff into consideration when designing their creatures, it's still cool to think about.
 

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Reading over this topic, I feel the need to make a distinction; there's this thing called kemonomimi which translates to "beast ears" and refers to your typical catgirl which only has cat ears and maybe a tail, which I don't think most would consider "monster girl/musume" but it seems like it is used interchangeably here.


I remember seeing this chart where it took you from a human to a literal normal cat and measured furrydom as it moved along but I don't think that sort of scale is what monster girls, even the typical ones we all can visualize, really are a part of.


Take for example Horo from Spice and Wolf, her real body is just a regular wolf, while her human form has ears and a tail and otherwise she's a normal girl. That's a pretty classic kemonomimi style character where you have some kind of supernatural being assume the form of a human while retaining some beast characteristics. In that form she is intending to pass for human. She isn't trying to be a beast girl, but of course she fails to completely hide her beast side despite looking cuter than most humans, which makes for interesting situations where she eats more than 10 grown men and whatnot.

There's tons of stories with that sort of premise. Now, we also have people who I guess want the monster side to be the more dominant side, but I think focusing on appearance too much is missing the point. Too many times we tend to dismiss content because of perceived pandering within it. The problem is that when we say "monstrous" we are being overly superficial. I think a more metaphorical sense of the term that can apply to various beings of various appearances is more useful.
 

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Dreiko said:
Reading over this topic, I feel the need to make a distinction; there's this thing called kemonomimi which translates to "beast ears" and refers to your typical catgirl which only has cat ears and maybe a tail, which I don't think most would consider "monster girl/musume" but it seems like it is used interchangeably here.


I remember seeing this chart where it took you from a human to a literal normal cat and measured furrydom as it moved along but I don't think that sort of scale is what monster girls, even the typical ones we all can visualize, really are a part of.


Take for example Horo from Spice and Wolf, her real body is just a regular wolf, while her human form has ears and a tail and otherwise she's a normal girl. That's a pretty classic kemonomimi style character where you have some kind of supernatural being assume the form of a human while retaining some beast characteristics. In that form she is intending to pass for human. She isn't trying to be a beast girl, but of course she fails to completely hide her beast side despite looking cuter than most humans, which makes for interesting situations where she eats more than 10 grown men and whatnot.

There's tons of stories with that sort of premise. Now, we also have people who I guess want the monster side to be the more dominant side, but I think focusing on appearance too much is missing the point. Too many times we tend to dismiss content because of perceived pandering within it. The problem is that when we say "monstrous" we are being overly superficial. I think a more metaphorical sense of the term that can apply to various beings of various appearances is more useful.
F that.
If your premise is "a dating sim in which you date tanks", I want to date a tank and not regular girls doing tank puns, damnit.
"Tank" is not just some vague metaphor, it's a tank. Shoots missiles, blows things up. A distinct lack of "regular girl".
If your premise is "guy in a harem of monster girls", I want to see actual monster girls.
"Monster" is not just some vague metaphor, it's the aliens, the draculas, the were-whatevers. Also not including "regular girl".
Commit to the premise, damnit.