"The rebuilding of groups, towns, cities, and civilizations is where the meat is."
This is what i would LOVE to see more then Fallout type games.
This is what i would LOVE to see more then Fallout type games.
Are Gamers Fed up of the Post-Apocalypse?
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You do realise that Fallout 2 and Fallout: New Vegas are about the rebuilding of civilisations, groups and society?Mitchell Osborn said:
And Fallout was about the build-up towards the rebuilding of civilisation.
I like the wasteland, post-apocalyptic game. Though I'm still waiting for the "real" post apocalypse game which is realistic and concentrates on survival rather than exploding super mutant bodies (fallout) or cashing on artifacts (Stalker). I want a game where I have to actually search for food, bullets, weapons, equipment, shelter, drinking water, medical supplies, and which is brutal in a fair way.
That's why I always look forward to zombie game releases. Maybe one of them will give me what I want, one day.
That's why I always look forward to zombie game releases. Maybe one of them will give me what I want, one day.
I have a Post Apocalyptic setting I go to frequently for Role Playing Games:
I have a North America devastated not by nuclear weapons, but conventional warfare and economic collapse. It is a North America where Canada remains the only relatively stable nation, and the United States has dissolved into a squabbling collection of sovereign states amidst desolate "dust-bowl"-esque wasteland.
I have a Global Catastrophe that has left Europe in crumbling ruins, with the Middle-East siphoning more and more power away from the likes of Germany, France, and the UK. All the while, more and more of Russia and China are reclaimed by nature as people begin to mysteriously disappear from border villages and small towns.
I have a setting in which the cities are shattered, and the people are terrified, and the governments are falling apart at the seams.
It's a world in which groups like "The Caine Recovery Agency" can be hired to venture into cities suffocated by toxic smog, where the only way to survive is with a respirator, or seeking shelter atop the shattered 'Rizers of the Old World. A world where scavengers of these ancient ruins must regularly do battle with gangs of half-feral children armed to the teeth with rusty weapons and empty handguns.
It's a place where every resource is precious, and every resource must be utilized to survive. It's a place where people thrive in communities, cannibalizing the technology of the past in order to create the technology of survival and necessity.
But most of all, it's a place devoid of immortal quest-givers and useless civilians loitering around in bloodless towns.
If you want to live, you WORK for it. You fight for it. And you probably die anyway.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the kind of Post Apocalyptic world I enjoy.
I have a North America devastated not by nuclear weapons, but conventional warfare and economic collapse. It is a North America where Canada remains the only relatively stable nation, and the United States has dissolved into a squabbling collection of sovereign states amidst desolate "dust-bowl"-esque wasteland.
I have a Global Catastrophe that has left Europe in crumbling ruins, with the Middle-East siphoning more and more power away from the likes of Germany, France, and the UK. All the while, more and more of Russia and China are reclaimed by nature as people begin to mysteriously disappear from border villages and small towns.
I have a setting in which the cities are shattered, and the people are terrified, and the governments are falling apart at the seams.
It's a world in which groups like "The Caine Recovery Agency" can be hired to venture into cities suffocated by toxic smog, where the only way to survive is with a respirator, or seeking shelter atop the shattered 'Rizers of the Old World. A world where scavengers of these ancient ruins must regularly do battle with gangs of half-feral children armed to the teeth with rusty weapons and empty handguns.
It's a place where every resource is precious, and every resource must be utilized to survive. It's a place where people thrive in communities, cannibalizing the technology of the past in order to create the technology of survival and necessity.
But most of all, it's a place devoid of immortal quest-givers and useless civilians loitering around in bloodless towns.
If you want to live, you WORK for it. You fight for it. And you probably die anyway.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the kind of Post Apocalyptic world I enjoy.
I'm not absolutely tired of post-apocalyptic, only that they tend to go for the same flavour every time...but no, it's a decent setting. What I'd like more of is distopic company-controlled settings like in Deus Ex and Blade Runner (I know it's not a game).
Dwarf/Elf fantasy is getting a bit worn out though. All they would have to do is next time, put satyrs or orcs or centaurs as one of the big three races with proper civilisations, or make dwarves tall and elves short. But no, elves have pointy ears, flowing hair and high foreheads and are good at archery, while dwarves live in huge stone underground cities with chunky architecture and wield axes almost exclusively.
By the way, I think it's kind of novel what Skyrim did in taking all the dwarves out, that was good. They had all the typical industrial, heavy masonry and etc. but it was ironic because there were no dwarves.
Dwarf/Elf fantasy is getting a bit worn out though. All they would have to do is next time, put satyrs or orcs or centaurs as one of the big three races with proper civilisations, or make dwarves tall and elves short. But no, elves have pointy ears, flowing hair and high foreheads and are good at archery, while dwarves live in huge stone underground cities with chunky architecture and wield axes almost exclusively.
By the way, I think it's kind of novel what Skyrim did in taking all the dwarves out, that was good. They had all the typical industrial, heavy masonry and etc. but it was ironic because there were no dwarves.
wouldn't it be interesting if there was a game where you went through pre- present and post-apocalypse?
you'd have to keep your group of unlikely survivors alive as long as possible, scavengging for supplies, holding off other hostile survivors and whatever disastrous shit the actual apocalypse threw at you.
you'd have to keep your group of unlikely survivors alive as long as possible, scavengging for supplies, holding off other hostile survivors and whatever disastrous shit the actual apocalypse threw at you.
To be fair, whenever I played New Vegas or 3, I killed any human enemy in one shot from my hunting rifle. It wasn't too bad.CCountZero said:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_258/7686-Every-Game-Is-the-End-of-the-World
Technically, every game is Post-Apocalyptic...
The setting of the the end of a big featureless and brown desert is old and tired. Maybe if people had more imagination. The world is dead and gone and you can make up anything... and you remake Mad Max... again.
Technically, every game is Post-Apocalyptic...
The setting of the the end of a big featureless and brown desert is old and tired. Maybe if people had more imagination. The world is dead and gone and you can make up anything... and you remake Mad Max... again.
ChupathingyX said:
And how much rebuilding did we do in the fallout games? we cured a water supply and saved a village from mutants
wow. Guess you won that round.
Uhhh, why are you talking about Fallout 3?Mitchell Osborn said:ChupathingyX said:
And how much rebuilding did we do in the fallout games? we cured a water supply and saved a village from mutants
I never mentioned it, I mentioned Fallout 2 and New Vegas specifically.
From the beginning of Fallout we've seen a small town made up of a couple of houses rise to a republic in control of the south-eastern coast of America and Mexico with hundreds of thousands of citizens.
I'm not, but I am disappointed. Really, none of them seemed all that great. The Last of Us looks good, though, both as a post-apocalyptic and a zombie game, two things which some people are getting tired of. So that's good. After that, though, unless they come out with a video game like The Road, I'm not all that interested.
Frankly, I haven't seen a lot of post-apocalypse games recently. Not noteworthy ones anyway. So the problem is definitely not too many of them, it might just be not enough of them that are worth playing.
And no, I'm not tired of playing them. I love that kind of survivalist setting. I'm not a fan of horror mind you (I think it's great, just not my cup of tea), but something like Fallout, hell yeah.
And no, I'm not tired of playing them. I love that kind of survivalist setting. I'm not a fan of horror mind you (I think it's great, just not my cup of tea), but something like Fallout, hell yeah.
Just as some of the people posting before me, I'm also getting fed up with the generic kind of post-apocalyptic games, the games where the setting doesn't serve any particular purpose and it's just there because it's cool (Fallout 3). When it's combined with a fitting and well told story, that would have a hard time being told without the post-apocalyptic background, I have no objections at all.
A game dealing with your protagonist's life before the war/disaster/catastrophe/cataclysm and how he/she made it to safety and survived in the first place. I want a scene where you get to watch the world burn. Hell, it could even be in flashbacks, as long as it's presented well and with decent quality. Personally, I like the Fallout setting. It just needs a better presentation with better connection to your character. Also, better animations and involvement. I've always wondered what those "Holy Fuck" moments in Call of Duty would be like in a Fallout game. Like, escaping a collapsing building sequence or getting shot and pulling yourself to safety. As much as COD is the same copy/paste each edition, it does have cool moments that other games could be influenced from.