Are games toys?
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I pretty much agree with this guy 100%. It really depends from person to person.ElektroNeko said:
Are radio-controlled vehicles that cannot carry humans toys?
RC cars are toys, yes. Military RC killbots are not...
Are books toys?
Some baby books have tactile interaction and such. Ulysses not so much...
Are games toys?
Some Wii games are little more than electronic toys. Call of Duty is a tactical infantry combat simulator designed for entertainment purposes...
Well, I would certainly let a 4 year old play some Wii games.
I would certainly not let a 4 year old play Silent Hill 2.
AND NOW FOR A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT
Games are a medium through which to convey storytelling, and thereby entertainment.
As are books.
And telly.
And movies.
And so on.
Since neither books, telly nor movies are considered toys, we can extrapolate to conclude that games are not toys.
"But games are interactive" I hear you say.
Have you ever looked at the other widely popular interactive storytelling media: Role Playing?
Is Dungeons and Dragons a toy? Probably not...
AND NOW FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RETHORIC QUESTION:
What constitutes a toy?
Is anything meant solely for entertainment not a toy?
Is a "sex toy" a toy?
RC cars are toys, yes. Military RC killbots are not...
Are books toys?
Some baby books have tactile interaction and such. Ulysses not so much...
Are games toys?
Some Wii games are little more than electronic toys. Call of Duty is a tactical infantry combat simulator designed for entertainment purposes...
Well, I would certainly let a 4 year old play some Wii games.
I would certainly not let a 4 year old play Silent Hill 2.
AND NOW FOR A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT
Games are a medium through which to convey storytelling, and thereby entertainment.
As are books.
And telly.
And movies.
And so on.
Since neither books, telly nor movies are considered toys, we can extrapolate to conclude that games are not toys.
"But games are interactive" I hear you say.
Have you ever looked at the other widely popular interactive storytelling media: Role Playing?
Is Dungeons and Dragons a toy? Probably not...
AND NOW FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RETHORIC QUESTION:
What constitutes a toy?
Is anything meant solely for entertainment not a toy?
Is a "sex toy" a toy?
Are movies and books toys? No. They're media. So are games, only difference being they're interactive media.
Games and toys are 2 categories. Just like movies, books, music etc.ToastiestZombie said:
Chess is a game, do you call a pawn a toy? Monopoly is a game, do you call that a toy?
Video games represent its own media where the story is already written. Some games could be considered to do interactive storytelling.
Put more thought into your question, they are games, that's already a classification, they are not toys because they are games. Same as animals aren't vegetables and colours aren't sounds. You can't classify a classification as another classification.ToastiestZombie said:
Well done! Your'e insult literally blew me away! I have nothing else to say to you because that insult was so original and well thought out!CoolJew said:
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The answer is actually quite black and white. It's no. Are movies toys? Are films toys? I thought so.
I think games can be toys. And I also think toys can be for adults. Smart Phones, Camera's, fishing rods, Warhammer Miniatures and Video Games can all be considered toys, depending on how they are used.
The difference between litterature and movies and the things I mentioned above is the interactivity.
Still I see a useful general distinction between 'toy' and 'game'. Games have a strict ruleset, while toys tend to be freeform and openended. Interactive video titles like Minecraft and Sims are more like toys than games really. But most video games have some toy-like qualities.
The difference between litterature and movies and the things I mentioned above is the interactivity.
Still I see a useful general distinction between 'toy' and 'game'. Games have a strict ruleset, while toys tend to be freeform and openended. Interactive video titles like Minecraft and Sims are more like toys than games really. But most video games have some toy-like qualities.
Are movies Documentaries?
Sometimes, when that is what they are trying to be. Other times, they are something else. Games are capable of being more things then pretty much any other form of art. I don't see the usefulness of calling something like The Path, Passage etc Toys.
Sometimes, when that is what they are trying to be. Other times, they are something else. Games are capable of being more things then pretty much any other form of art. I don't see the usefulness of calling something like The Path, Passage etc Toys.
Some certainly are little but products designed for casual amusement, and hence are quite similar to toys.
Others certainly aren't.
It's simply an interactive medium for all kinds of content, and hence "am" nothing in itself in terms of entertainment function or demographic appeal. Though if you look at what's given the most marketing, production budgets, and press coverage, then more often than not the "toys" would seem to take the center stage.
Others certainly aren't.
It's simply an interactive medium for all kinds of content, and hence "am" nothing in itself in terms of entertainment function or demographic appeal. Though if you look at what's given the most marketing, production budgets, and press coverage, then more often than not the "toys" would seem to take the center stage.
I think a lot of the responses on this thread are poorly thought out knee-jerk reactions. People are fixating on a negative connotation of the word "toy" and not really considering the question.
"Video games are entertainment, and entertainment is not the same thing as toys." Yes, they are. Toys are meant to entertain and amuse, and so is entertainment (it's in the word).
"Video games are more akin to books and film." True, but books and film are not interactive. Toys are. Toys are used to create and tell their own stories. Much like video games.
"I wouldn't give a 4 year-old a video game." I wouldn't give a 4 year-old a Lego Technic set either. That doesn't make Technic something other than a toy, though.
Folks, we're past the point where we need to defend video games, okay? The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in our favor, and that sets a precedent that will be difficult for the bad guys to get around. Now's the time when we need to dedicate some real thought to what video games are and how the medium may progress. The first step is going to be acknowledging what video games are.
They are toys, and if you believe there is something shameful about playing with toys, there is something wrong with you.
"Video games are entertainment, and entertainment is not the same thing as toys." Yes, they are. Toys are meant to entertain and amuse, and so is entertainment (it's in the word).
"Video games are more akin to books and film." True, but books and film are not interactive. Toys are. Toys are used to create and tell their own stories. Much like video games.
"I wouldn't give a 4 year-old a video game." I wouldn't give a 4 year-old a Lego Technic set either. That doesn't make Technic something other than a toy, though.
Folks, we're past the point where we need to defend video games, okay? The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in our favor, and that sets a precedent that will be difficult for the bad guys to get around. Now's the time when we need to dedicate some real thought to what video games are and how the medium may progress. The first step is going to be acknowledging what video games are.
They are toys, and if you believe there is something shameful about playing with toys, there is something wrong with you.