TheSlee said:
LordNue said:
It's pretty fair. If someone is capable of getting next to you in a game all about guns and explosives, you pretty much screwed up and deserve the severed spinal cord. Shoot them before they stab you, you really, really have range on them.
erm... have you seen the commando perk on MW2?? in it's later evolved pro state you can jump off a ridiculously high building and then knife someone who is about 10m away from you with the press of a button. Also, have you seen people using the marathon, lightweight, commando, tac knife loadout on MW2, I don't think people run around the battlefield shanking anyone foolish enough to actually use a gun.
/end rant
You sound like a complete newb (read: not n00b) to me. That's off the cuff and I'm sure you have a rebuff, take that as you will.
Those Knifers turn into confetti if you possess a shotgun. The SPAS-12 is awesomely powerful, it's overlooked simply because it's the first shotgun unlocked and that it's pumping animation is roughly 1.5 times longer than it needs to be, so it's firing rate is a lot faster than people think. AA-12 is fully automatic, Striker just plain hurts, M1014 is still a nice piece of work and the model 1887, used so frequently with a certain attachment its simply called the Akimbo are all very nice options for putting 6 pounds of metal in anyone stupid enough to try and knife you from the front - otherwise? Yeah, you bloody well deserve to have your ass handed to you, neatly carved, on a silver plate.
Fact - All of the automatic weapons at optimal ranges kill in 3-4 bullets with no cover.
Fact - Shotguns either kill in one or two shots depending on range, and the ones that need 2 are either akimbo, auto or semi-auto. Did a lot of testing, the shotgun damage doubles within 2 meters so there's no reason you can't oneshot someone.
Fact - Knives are still used at close range even with commando. At it's maximum range (say 4 meters?) there's plenty of time for the target to sidestep.
Fact - Assault rifles can get about 2 shots in before you get hit by the knife.
Fact - If you nerfed the knife even a little say, make it a two hit kill? The target would have enough time to kill you dead when you pull back for round two even if you knife him from behind he can probably prime a grenade. Try to get the backstabber achievement sometime and figure out just how difficult it will be to knife them precisely from behind if you want to do this DnD style. Instead of crying bullshit over the lunge people would cry bullshit over not one-hitting someone.
Things you should do:
1) Bring a Shotgun. Failing that?
2) Side step the dumbass. Failing that?
3) Don't hang around in tight spaces with a weapon that needs 3 shots to kill.
4) Stay out in the open. This is related to 3
5) Play with friends who know how to watch your back. Cant tell you the number of times I died because everyone thought they were Rambo.
Yes there's an advantage that lets you leap from incredible heights - consider this, there aren't a lot of really high places you can leap off of to outright kill yourself. In Call of Duty 4 there was something like, 5 places? The best you got in most of the maps in the new game are second story buildings and you survive those easily enough in the previous game. If someone leaps down and cracks his legs with a red face and stabs you dead, the end result isn't going to be much different from the guy who jumps down, doesn't crack his legs, doesn't have a red face, and stabs you dead.
Another thing? the knife at it's longest optimistically has a range of 4 meters. That's the longest kill I've been able to get judging by eye and considering that the character model is roughly 5 feet in height (since he crouches a little) to compare the distance too. That's a lot but in the old game there was enough dedicated-server lag I could run straight up to someone from a more literal ten meters away, swerve up to them and jab steel into their face. This game doesn't have that kind of lag anymore. Commando is necessary to go in knifing and the old defense method of using a shotgun STILL - WORKS. There's no sense including a weapon in the game that does less damage than a shotgun at a maximum of 3 feet with a one second reload time.
