Are people too hard on smokers?

[DigitalAtlas]

Yes. /end thread.

 

[DarthFennec]

I fucking hate smokers, I usually shoot them whenever I get the chance. Never stand too close to a smoker, It'll mess you up. Those tongues can throttle you to death real quick ...

OT: We all have habits that are detrimental to our health. Smoking's one of them. So is eating McDonalds. But people do that and nobody treats them like lepers. Smokers are treated unfairly, I think. You shouldn't care how another person treats their own body, any more than they should care how you treat yours. It doesn't make any sense to me that people actually hate others for doing something as inconsequential as smoking, it's like hating people for wearing hats or for having their hands in their pockets ...

 

[jthm]

They are hated on way too much.
Their habit may be illogical but it's one of their weaknesses.
We all have weaknesses.

It isn't illogical. I enjoy smoking my pipe. It relieves stress and tension, provides a pleasurable experience. I'm willing to accept the trade off of a shorter life span. Hell, I consider that a perk.

 

[Digitaldreamer7]

No, because people who are smokers don't seem to know what they are doing to the people around them. My mother is a smoker and she just doesn't seem to know how painful it is to watch her rot before my eyes.

It's her life, not yours, if she want's to rot.. so be it.

With that being said. It is a romantic deal breaker for me, not a friendship one. I won't be romantically involved with a smoker, kissing one is disgusting.

It isn't just her life. It is mine to, and everyone else's. When she dies, parts of me, my dad and my sister are going with her. Thats what happens when you are a part of a family.

Actually that's your selfishness talking. It is her life. If she kills herself by smoking, it's her fault. Unless she is forcing the rest of your family to smoke, then, no it's just her life.

 

[Flunk]

No, because it's a choice there is no reason not to hate on it. If you find it annoying, go for it. Just like I have no problem with bugging people who chew with their mouths open or talk on cell phones in public. If you smoke, you can stop, it's up to you.

 

[Black Watch]

No, because people who are smokers don't seem to know what they are doing to the people around them. My mother is a smoker and she just doesn't seem to know how painful it is to watch her rot before my eyes.

It's her life, not yours, if she want's to rot.. so be it.

With that being said. It is a romantic deal breaker for me, not a friendship one. I won't be romantically involved with a smoker, kissing one is disgusting.

It isn't just her life. It is mine to, and everyone else's. When she dies, parts of me, my dad and my sister are going with her. Thats what happens when you are a part of a family.

Actually that's your selfishness talking. It is her life. If she kills herself by smoking, it's her fault. Unless she is forcing the rest of your family to smoke, then, no it's just her life.

Actually, it is selfish to think that killing yourself only effects your life.

 

[Brown Cap]

It is true smokers are often overjudged, but the human race seems prone to judging others for any bad, unusual, or otherwise discourageable habits/appearances. Believe it or not, smokers help the economy by purchasin cigarettes and dying at younger ages to leave us more Social Security Checks, but they add to pollution and stunt out health as well as their own.

The real question is how tolerant are we?

 

[Necrofudge]

Yeah, I never really understood it either. So they smoke? What right does anyone have to tell them otherwise.

It's the 21st century. OF COURSE THEY KNOW IT'S BAD FOR THEM. They just don't care. In a way, I admire them for that.

 

[RamirezDoEverything]

I don't shun the people who smoke, I just don't want them smoking around me, makes my lungs burn, plain and simple.

A friend of mine smokes, he always goes outside to smoke when he's over, and everything between us goes smoothly.

edit: I have asthma

 

[Canid117]

I have a couple friends who smoke every now and again and you know what? They can do what they want.

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

No, I certainly think smokers are still let off easy, and their constant defensiveness whenever challenged is something I find endlessly annoying. I have NO tolerance for smoking and I'm not shy about letting you know it- if you smoke near me I will pointedly move away from you.

And I am SO SICK of smokers defending themselves with the same meaningless and irrelevent arguments they keep spamming out any time someone dares question their right to poison the world and everyone around them. "Cars and industrial pollution do far more damage than cigarette smoke" they whine. "Cars and industry are necessary evils of modern day human existence," I counter "while cigarettes are a meaningless, totally optional and thoroughly disgusting luxury product. There's a huge difference between shooting wild animals and destroying their habitats to make an area of land safe to live in and farm wheat on, and shooting wild animals and destroying their habitats to make fur coats and farm cannibis."

I also think people are a bit too harsh on the smokers, while I do not support smokers, I do not believe they should so publicly hated. People argue that they are killing themselves, but are people drinking alcohol and eating fast food not killing themselves, yet I don't see people being as harsh on these people as they do on smokers. I think that the media also has a large role in effecting how people view the topic as well.

The problem ISN'T that they're killing themselves. Hell, personally I couldn't care less if they're killing themselves- that's their choice, just like people who drink themselves blind or stuff themselves with crap until they need bigger pants. The problem with smoking is that it's invasive and toxic and to make matters worse it breeds an inherent self-centredness in the people who do it. While alcohol can start fights, cause accidents, or be responsible for domestic abuse, at least this varies from person to person and only results from a considerable excessive misuse of it. I drink a little, but I've NEVER been drunk in my life and have NEVER done something I've regretted because of alcohol. But even normal use of tobacco is unavoidably harmful (tobacco is literally nothing less than a poison) which affects not only the smoker but everyone around them. The smoke drifts around in a wide area around the smoker to be inhaled by people who wouldn't smoke a cigarette at gunpoint and they don't even get the benefit of inhaling it through the filter first! And when it comes to parents who smoke around their children or even while pregnant... well, sometimes I wonder why we don't need a license to breed.

And then there's the thing that enrages me the most- WAY too many smokers (not all of them, but the vast majority that I've seen) are dirty, self-centred and lazy. Even if they're not smoking near another person, their poison still drifts into the air and, even worse, their litter end up on th ground or eventually in the water- and they act like it simply doesn't matter. When I see a smoker casually flick a cigarette butt onto the ground and walk away without even bothering to stub it out with their foot when they're standing less than 10 feet away from an ashtray or garbage bin then I have to restrain the urge to chase them down, grab them by the scruff of the neck and scream at them "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!". Fortunately I've managed to control this urge by channelling my rage into a new habit I have, where I pick up the smoking butt, sneak up behind them and drop it into either the open top of any bag they're carrying or, if they don't have one, down the back of their shirt or jacket and beat it before they notice. I think that's what we call "poetic justice".

Yeah, I never really understood it either. So they smoke? What right does anyone have to tell them otherwise.

It's the 21st century. OF COURSE THEY KNOW IT'S BAD FOR THEM. They just don't care. In a way, I admire them for that.

It's bad for everyone else as well and they don't care about that either. So someone drinks? What right does anyone have to tell them they can't drive a car? Oh wait...

 

[Jake0fTrades]

As ignorant as it may sound, I can't look at someone who smokes without thinking they are irresponsible.

In my defense, the only people I've ever seen smoking are rather downtrodden and beaten cashiers and attendants standing outside of convenience stores alone watching traffic pass as they inhale breath after breath of nicotine and ash.

 

[PatSilverFox]

I think people are too hard on others trying to kill themselves in general.

 

[Merkavar]

i dont think they are hated that much. like smokers arent spat on or beaten up.

but smokers do stink alot, damage theirs and everyone around thems health and smell. also smoking is one of the stupidest habits.

you smoke to releave the effects of your withdrawals from smoking. it creates the problem and offers the solution in one handy tube.

the reason i dislike smokers is partly cause they smell (have i mentioned that?) and partly because it is so pointlessly useless. with drinking you drink and feel all nice and warm and stuff(positive effect). with smoking you smoke and fell all normal and stuff cause all smoking does is get rid of the withdrawal effects(removes the negative effect that it creates).

The smell from smokers is something you've made up in your mind and I've noticed it alot while there is definitely a smell from them Non smokers make it out that they smell like a garbage heap based solely upon their own mental tricks they must use to demonize smoking I've tested it I smoke often and my friends whom I hang out comment on the smell I have specifically worn freshly cleaned clothes, washed thoroughly and did not smoke at all before I met up with them at a bar I went outside like I had went to smoke but didn't and when I came back they made the same comments man you and your cigarette smell...

the same with teeth staining as long as you have a consistant teeth brushing regimine, floss and use mouthwash cigarettes will never stain your teeth just like strong coffee.

by the by you do not just feel warm and such while drinking every one experiences a buzz or drunkeness differently me I'm a violent drunk when I am able to get drunk I get mean and annoyed constantly and have even wanted to fight my friends over the simplest things.

yeah no. smokers smell. its not a trick. if they have smoked recently they smell and if they havent smoked they dont smell.

while sitting here at my computer if the wind is blowing the right way i can smell my mums smoke 30 secs or more before she gets to the front door.

also you said you went out side as if you had smoked, did you go out side where all the other smokers were smoking?

 

[jameskillalot]

Anyone who performs an action that injures me through no fault of my own pisses me off. Second hand smoke is worse for you than first hand smoke - so I hate smokers. Drunk drivers kill many people each year, they risk others lives for cheap thrills that they ofter cannot remember. These two habits are government approved whereas marijuana is illegal, although its side effects are much less dangerous. It's hilarious how conservative modern times are about some traditions while they fail to move forward with important issues, ie. climate change.

 

[zf6hellion]

No, I certainly think smokers are still let off easy, and their constant defensiveness whenever challenged is something I find endlessly annoying. I have NO tolerance for smoking and I'm not shy about letting you know it- if you smoke near me I will pointedly move away from you.

And I am SO SICK of smokers defending themselves with the same meaningless and irrelevent arguments they keep spamming out any time someone dares question their right to poison the world and everyone around them. "Cars and industrial pollution do far more damage than cigarette smoke" they whine. "Cars and industry are necessary evils of modern day human existence," I counter "while cigarettes are a meaningless, totally optional and thoroughly disgusting luxury product. There's a huge difference between shooting wild animals and destroying their habitats to make an area of land safe to live in and farm wheat on, and shooting wild animals and destroying their habitats to make fur coats and farm cannibis."

I also think people are a bit too harsh on the smokers, while I do not support smokers, I do not believe they should so publicly hated. People argue that they are killing themselves, but are people drinking alcohol and eating fast food not killing themselves, yet I don't see people being as harsh on these people as they do on smokers. I think that the media also has a large role in effecting how people view the topic as well.

The problem ISN'T that they're killing themselves. Hell, personally I couldn't care less if they're killing themselves- that's their choice, just like people who drink themselves blind or stuff themselves with crap until they need bigger pants. The problem with smoking is that it's invasive and toxic and to make matters worse it breeds an inherent self-centredness in the people who do it. While alcohol can start fights, cause accidents, or be responsible for domestic abuse, at least this varies from person to person and only results from a considerable excessive misuse of it. I drink a little, but I've NEVER been drunk in my life and have NEVER done something I've regretted because of alcohol. But even normal use of tobacco is unavoidably harmful (tobacco is literally nothing less than a poison) which affects not only the smoker but everyone around them. The smoke drifts around in a wide area around the smoker to be inhaled by people who wouldn't smoke a cigarette at gunpoint and they don't even get the benefit of inhaling it through the filter first! And when it comes to parents who smoke around their children or even while pregnant... well, sometimes I wonder why we don't need a license to breed.

And then there's the thing that enrages me the most- WAY too many smokers (not all of them, but the vast majority that I've seen) are dirty, self-centred and lazy. Even if they're not smoking near another person, their poison still drifts into the air and, even worse, their litter end up on th ground or eventually in the water- and they act like it simply doesn't matter. When I see a smoker casually flick a cigarette butt onto the ground and walk away without even bothering to stub it out with their foot when they're standing less than 10 feet away from an ashtray or garbage bin then I have to restrain the urge to chase them down, grab them by the scruff of the neck and scream at them "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!". Fortunately I've managed to control this urge by channelling my rage into a new habit I have, where I pick up the smoking butt, sneak up behind them and drop it into either the open top of any bag they're carrying or, if they don't have one, down the back of their shirt or jacket and beat it before they notice. I think that's what we call "poetic justice".

Yeah, I never really understood it either. So they smoke? What right does anyone have to tell them otherwise.

It's the 21st century. OF COURSE THEY KNOW IT'S BAD FOR THEM. They just don't care. In a way, I admire them for that.

It's bad for everyone else as well and they don't care about that either. So someone drinks? What right does anyone have to tell them they can't drive a car? Oh wait...

This. Dunno what else to add really.

 

[Rofl-Mayo]

It generally grosses me out. And on a side note it makes tits sag and dicks shrink.

 

[rammst13n]

ive never understood people who shun smokers, its counter productive to be hard on someone who may smoke to deal with stress, if smoking bothers you try to be kind to the person, dont say that its going to kill them just try and give them something else to be happy about and they will quit if you help them and give them a reason to try to quit

 

[FreakSheet]

What good is smoking? Why do you want freedom, and acceptance for a habit that virtually does nothing for you but make you cough and stink and die? At least red wine has some good stuff for you (in moderation) but I never plan to drink either. Seriously, smoking doesn't need defeneding. It needs to be burned at the stake. (and Yes, I realize the irony in that last statement)

 

[xXAsherahXx]

Smokers themselves aren't terrible people, but smoking in general is ridiculously stupid, like beyond stupid.

Cigarettes (at least I'm fairly certain that's what you're referring to by saying "smokers") have over 2,000 chemicals in them and many of them are very lethal (arsenic is in there). Both my parents smoke, and both of them have "smokers cough" and can't do shit actively.

So for that, I am biased against cigarettes and pro-weed. If you're going to smoke something to get high, it might as well be pot. It gets the job done, and is much less dangerous at the moment. Of course companies could get their hands all over it if it's every legalized.