Prometherion said:
Accountfailed said:
You have fallen into the same trap your railing against. by going on about things being condescending, you too are treating women as objects, to be set aside and respected. I'll get to the point; Do you know what kind of person complains about sex in vidjagames? stupid ones, ones with ridiculous opinions that are based around their own self inflation, the kind of person that thinks they can write a self defense book because they don't get attacked everyday, deluded enough to believe that it is because they are special, but too stupid to realize they are making a fool of themselves. these people get media attention BECAUSE they are making a fool of themselves, and people even stupider listen and then follow suit. this is how this shit started.
Know what's not OK? THIS.
This infuriating campaign against the "over sexualized" video games that everybody seems to think is a massive call by the shadow patriarchy in order to completely degrade women and push up their sales to dumbfounded drooling men. Let me ask you a question: Would you have had a problem with this if there wasn't so much media controversy surrounding sex in video games?
So to wrap things up, no, no no no, no, no no. You need to evolve past this idea that sex=bad and take a perspective look on your opinion of women. there are plenty of "normal" women in video games, if you haven't come across them then why are you on The Escapist? Alex Vance, or Jade from beyond good and evil, well known, how about Alexandra Roivas? (eternal darkness).
Maybe, just once. I would like hear an article on "parent of five and famous anti-sex-in-games member, realizes that nobody gives a fuck."
What trap? What campaign? I have an opinion, which i stated at the beginning of the thread. You are the one campaigning.
Dont presume my ego, my beliefs and my opinion. People do give a fuck, and people are usually civil enough to discuss their opinions. Rather than the rant /thread combo.
Apologies if you find my method of discussion uncivilized, but in my opinion, judging by your post and response. My presumption of your ego remains correct.
"what trap?" - I defined that in the very paragraph in which it was included, the 'trap' you have fallen into is a metaphor for the objectification of women, by demanding that women are not objects and shouldn't be over sexualized, you are in turn objectifying them as things people have to respect. you have an opinion inverse but still equal to that which you are against, therefore, you are still objectifying women.
"What campaign? I have an opinion, which i stated at the beginning of the thread. You are the one campaigning." - you're right, you have an opinion, which you started a thread with, I also have an opinion, which I countered yours with. I submit to you that if me arguing in the form of a transmitted opinion is a campaign, then so is yours.
"Dont presume my ego, my beliefs and my opinion." - Funny sentence you have there, I like the part how I'm presuming your opinion, regardless of the fact that you stated it in the start of the thread, and the fact that you stated
that in the paragraph preceding this one. Do tell how it is possible to presume an opinion after reading it.
"People do give a fuck" - I don't, anybody I know with weight in such arguments
(people who know enough about video game culture to harbor a respectable opinion about them) doesn't, So why should I believe otherwise? maybe backing up your argument with
evidence would be a good idea.
"...and people are usually civil enough to discuss their opinions. Rather than the rant /thread combo." - I did not submit my opinion so that people
couldn't discuss it. You call me uncivilized yet nowhere in your response have you included any valid point against my statement. So you consider it "civil" to respond with an attack on the poster as opposed to the post itself. If you are looking for the uncivilized one sir,
look in the mirror.
