Are teachers allowed to kick you out of the classroom for looking at your phone?

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spartan231490

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Exterminas said:
Phone wasn't ringing. Phone was silently vibrating (ie not disturbing anyone.)
OP was turning it off. Again, not an activity that is likely to distract anyone.
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spartan231490 said:
It's not just her problem, it's disruptive to the whole class, she has every right to kick him out. If he is disrupting the whole class, and anyone who's ever been in a college class and had a cell go offs knows that cell-phones disrupt class, then she has every right to kick him out so that he doesn't degrade the education of everyone else in the room.
That all depends on the situation at hand. If somebody has it on vibrate and they are just texting or just turning it off then no its not disrupting the whole class.
BS. Vibrate isn't silent, and it is disruptive. Every fucking time the phone vibrates, it makes a buzzing sound that can be heard from across a lecture hall, more than enough to distract someone.
 

Zarmi

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I think it's perfectly fair she kicks you out and marks you as not attending, just simply learn to turn off your phone before going into the class. It's fucking college man, stop acting like it's kindergarden, and stop complaining about it. You got fucked over, and now you know what to do next time: Turn it off before class.

When I went to college, we could get marked as absent simply if our teacher felt like it. You can go and report her for it, but well, as soon as your phone is brought into it, you will get a "Your own damn fault" right in your face. You've got a lesson, deal with it, get over it.
 

Ruwrak

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subtracting points is unfair.
Marking you down is fair.

I expected a completely different situation.
I.e. sitting in a classroom and look at your phone. Then I would say it's disrespect for the person who want to teach you something (and it's why you go to school yanno...)

But... the hell? Subtracting points from your score? Now that is quite low. If you go to the principal / headmaster / department manager with proof of said action it has to be rectified.
 

CotF1692

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I didn't mean to seem like I was complaining I was just curious if she was allowed to mark me as absent when I was already through most of the class and deduct points on a test when the phone didn't go off during tests.
 

MegaManOfNumbers

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I wouldn't know, I don't have a cellphone. Such a hassle to deal with, plus, and irritation to my finances.

Though, I have heard college/university profs. are rather pretentious when it comes to their class rules.
 

JordanMillward_1

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Sounds to me like the OP got caught breaking the rules, got busted for it, and is butt-hurt.

For a particular class/module, the tutor can pretty much do what they want, as it is their class. You pay for the right to go to the class, and to follow the rules. If I were your tutor, I'd have done exactly the same thing.
 

Broady Brio

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Kick you out? I can accept that. You're disturbing the class.

Marking you absent? Yeah-No. Just no.
 

Psychedelic Spartan

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Really? That just isn't fair. The only punishment I've seen against phones was in my middle school in which you weren't even supposed to have a phone with you. However, we all know that's not gonna happen for anyone past the age of 9, so if your phone was seen or heard during the school day, it was confiscated and had to be picked up by a parent or guardian. But seriously, your teacher sounds like she thinks you're a little kid. I mean, what if it was an actual emergency?
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
She can mark you down for it, sure, but she's not allowed to mark you as absent.

You should report her.
I know teachers that mark you absent if you forget stuff like pen and things a like, maybe not the same thing?
 

CthulhuMessiah

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Yes, but unless she is a major See You Next Tuesday, then just saying "I was turning off my phone" should have worked, expessially she didn't have any problems with you before.
 

t3h br0th3r

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Michael Fahey said:
I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.
We on the forums can spend all day talking about if the teacher was in the right , or wrong(or in my case how much of a profanity she is) but at the end of the day all you can do is check your school's policy, try to have a chat with her in her office and then start working up the chain of command to get something done about this prehistoric prof and her neverending bad mood.
 

Aulleas123

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Wait wait wait, you would pay hundreds of dollars for your class, take time out of your schedule to go to class and do the work, then you spend class time looking at your phone? (hypothetical question)

Look, I get your situation, but there are better ways for you to have handled that. You could have stepped outside the room to turn your phone off or just texted the person not to call you during class. Plus, it's the professor's class and her rules. Don't waste her time and don't waste your money.

Whether or not she could do it, if she has a notation in the syllabus then that effectively is a contract with you. If you violate the contract then prepare to face the consequences.
 

DrOswald

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If what you say is true, then there are 3 possibilities:

1. The instructor is an idiot who is desperately trying to stay relevant in a world where technology is the rule and she can't handle it because they can't understand it. She is afraid of the tech and copes with it by being openly hostile to technology and anyone who uses it.

2. The teacher is on a power trip and has just chosen cell phones as a semi legitimate way to harass people.

3. You are in a class that typically has a lot of freshmen who think they can get away with anything so they just talk on their phone in class. The teacher has decided to counter their stupidity with some stupidity of her own.

If I had a teacher like this I would have to leave the class permanently because my job requires that I be available 24/7. I am not actually on call, but I need to have my phone on at all times (with a few very rare exceptions) so I could literally not be in this class. And that is pretty normal, almost every class I attend has 2 or 3 people like me who need to stay connected at all times. What would your teacher do in this type of case?
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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It depends on the college charter, and other things, but generally a professor has ultimate rule in their classroom. And you are going to meet up with some real jackasses in that profession, which will prepare you for working in the real world where you can be FIRED for less than your phone going off.
 

CotF1692

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Aulleas123 said:
Wait wait wait, you would pay hundreds of dollars for your class, take time out of your schedule to go to class and do the work, then you spend class time looking at your phone? (hypothetical question)

Look, I get your situation, but there are better ways for you to have handled that. You could have stepped outside the room to turn your phone off
We are not allowed to step out of the class when its not the half way through the class break. Even if we desperately have to use the bathroom, we wait for the break or go before or after class. I only look at my phone during the break.

And as for everyone saying I am butt hurt or complaining i'm really not! just curiosity on whether there was some universal rule to it all
 

SidingWithTheEnemy

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Well, while I sympathize with the teacher. I think she may well kick you out anytime she feels you disturbed her teaching.
But an attendance list is for the "attendance". Or am I misunderstanding something here?
You "attended" the class, so she has not a single reason to cancel your attendance for that class, because you were (physically) present (until she decided to kick you out).
She could "punish" you with any method that is allowed at your school/country but that is up to her and the internal school rules.
 

Twilight_guy

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In college.... yes. Of course you can go tot the head of the department and complain if you think there is really an issue.
 
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Daystar Clarion said:
Attendence is also taken as part of a fire register. So actually, it's very much illegal for a person not to be noted as attending, when they are.
Well then it's a good thing he wasn't present. He was told to leave the class, and then he was marked absent.
Oh, I know that, but it opens up all sorts of legal trouble if something were to happen.

Sorry if it sounded like I was trying to attack your argument.