Are their any other gay characters in games that aren't stereotypes?

[Sephychu]

Spoiler: Spoilers for Scott Pilgrim's Finest Hour

Stephen Stills is in Scott Pilgrim vs The World: The Game, but then I guess they don't really allude to it in the game, or the film, for that matter.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Your maths is terrible.

You're saying that only 0.1 billion people (otherwise known as 100 million) function with western ideologies... which is interesting because that's less than 1/3 of the US population, let alone the combine populations of all western nations (which, if memory serves, is a bit less than the US population). So either most Western societies are filled with people that don't conform to any western based ideology or, as I stated earlier, you maths is terrible.

This is a perfect example of the point I was making. You have assumed that the whole of the US is of the same view as you, have the same education, ethnic and socioeconomic background, and thinks homosexuality is acceptable.

Okay, so not only is your maths terrible but your reading and comprehension isn't very good either.

Here, read this bit again.

So either most Western societies are filled with people that don't conform to any western based ideology or, as I stated earlier, you maths is terrible.

Now, taking that in context, what could possibly give you the idea that I am making any assumption as to Americans (of all fucking people, no less) and their views/opinions as a comparison to my own? Why do you assume I was talking about the US other than using it as a clear comparative population number, seeing as it is the most populous western nation? In fact, why would you even assume I give a dead rat's ringhole about what any American's views on any subject?

How you managed to extrapolate my position on both homosexuality and gay marriage from a paragraph that mentions neither is also quite interesting.

Remember what that was in reply to?

To assume that 6.6 billion functions with the same ideologies of our feeble cloistered western society is naive.

So, using the base number of 100 million... what? 'ideologies of our feeble cloistered western society'? Well, you could be either talking about all western nations as a single society or a single nation... in either case 100 million doesn't fit in the context of 'ideologies' which would cover most people in any given western nation (or all of them combined). Way too few for all western nations or the US taken by itself and too many for any other single western nation. Now, you never specified any particular ideology and went with the plural so I just went with all western based ideologies. If you had intended something more specific you should have said so. Without precise information there are no precise answers. Garbage in, garbage out.



Oh yes, and your statistical modelling and analysis is atrocious.

 

[Raziel_Likes_Souls]

Jun in Persona 2, Kanji in Persona 4(though I don't think he's gay), to name a couple.

It's just what they are, it never comes up as a major thing(though Yosuke is a homophobe for sure).

Kanji swings a fucking chair and dropkicks your ass out of the way of an attack. He's badass enough for his sexuality not to be a problem, until the bath house.

Anyways, since this dude already said Kanji, I have no fucking clue, because I haven't seen any other gay characters since Enchanted Arms, and that guy is a fucking flaming stereotype.

 

[spartan1077]

Would Bridget count? If not, then no. Maybe Zevhran from Dragon Age Origins but he was bisexual.

 

[Buizel91]

Zev from Dragoon Age?

He's Bisexual...but still counts...

 

[Lolth17]

But... Alastair isn't gay. You can't enter a homosexual relationship with him.

So your summary of a gay is "a man will have sex with any man he can find". How ironic. Morrigan believes Alastair to be gay - that's enough evidence for me.

He's not gay, he's a 20-something year old virgin, which can come off the same way. Same with Alex Shepard from SH: Homecoming. Another 20-something year old who's never had a sexual experience. Doesn't mean either of them are gay.

OT: Isn't the new FFXIII Versus protagonist gay? That's what I heard somewhere. Also, if Balthier from FFXII wasn't gay, then my video game gay-dar is totally on the fritz.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I give a dead rat's ringhole about what any American's views on any subject?

How you managed to extrapolate my position on both homosexuality and gay marriage from a paragraph that mentions neither is also quite interesting.

I said nothing of the sort.

Then someone has been hijacking your account and saying it.

You can go back to whatever cesspool of humanity you associate with that leads you to delusions that you make some meaningful contribution to humanity.

Oh boo fucking hoo. I have been insulted on the internet, whatever shall I do?

Pfffffft... Psychology isn't one of your strengths either.

 

[Akiada]

But... Alastair isn't gay. You can't enter a homosexual relationship with him.

So your summary of a gay is "a man will have sex with any man he can find". How ironic. Morrigan believes Alastair to be gay - that's enough evidence for me.

What? No. I said that because Alistair is a romance-able character. As in, he totally digs the Warden. That he doesn't when the Warden is a man, but suddenly becomes interested in the whole romance thing when the Warden is a female is very much indicative of not being gay. Look at past Bioware games - Juhani is very much gay (she has a lesbian lover who actually attacks you later if you kill Juhani during the event with her) and is a romance able character, yet will only enter into homosexual relationships - your Reven must be female.

When a character in a game is romanceable, but only for one sex, indicates that they:
A) Do not swing both ways
B) Instead swing strongly in one direction (either homosexual or heterosexual)

Which is what Alistair does. That he's afraid of women isn't because he's gay (which is a silly assumption to make), it's because he's throughout the entire game depicted as a man willing to follow rather than lead. He doesn't like commitment and responsibility.

I'm really not sure what good Morrigan's opinion is, either. Aside from being a manipulative witch, a woman saying a man is gay isn't exactly iron-clad fact, and coupled with Morrigan's dislike of Alistair it's likely just a sarcastic jab on her part, making fun of his fear of relationships.

How many of those also even appreciate narrative in video games? Very, very few. We can estimate it by total of DAO sales (3.2million) and maybe 25% would even care of the subplots storyline (as opposed to ingame achievement medals), and I guess even fewer would care that you can be gay. That's where my estimation of 100million of a clostered western society comes (educated, western society, plays video games, think homosexuality is acceptable).

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
- Aristotle

Point being, anyone with half a brain can enjoy a game with characters whose viewpoints they do not necessarily share. I am capable of playing a game where my character is deeply religious despite me not being such, or of a different political spectrum - for example I can play a knight of a king in a fantasy RPG despite the fact that I much prefer representative democracy to monarchy. I could also make said knight into a Paladin-esque religious crusader despite being an atheist. So on and so forth.

 

[soilent]

Harry Potter Lego: Dumbledore is gay and nobody even knew.

He isn`t really gay, he just had one gay experience

oh isnt he cute, pretending the author didnt outright say he was gay.

He's Gay, not a big deal, dude.

 

[soilent]

OT: In Jericho you can play as a lesbian who lives up to no stereotypes and is fact pretty awesome, however shitty that game is.

 

[soilent]

But... Alastair isn't gay. You can't enter a homosexual relationship with him.

So your summary of a gay is "a man will have sex with any man he can find". How ironic. Morrigan believes Alastair to be gay - that's enough evidence for me.

He's not gay, he's a 20-something year old virgin, which can come off the same way. Same with Alex Shepard from SH: Homecoming. Another 20-something year old who's never had a sexual experience. Doesn't mean either of them are gay.

OT: Isn't the new FFXIII Versus protagonist gay? That's what I heard somewhere. Also, if Balthier from FFXII wasn't gay, then my video game gay-dar is totally on the fritz.

Appearently you've never been to fan fiction websites, ALL square enix male characters are gay, and they're all angsty too.

Seriously though, cloud is most obviously gay, and dont even get me started with Kingdom Hearts.

 

[Dorian6]

There's Veronica from New Vegas. And i gotta say, she is really awesome!

 

[subject_87]

Really, if it's not relevant to the plot, shoehorning the fact that a character is gay into the game will most likely come across as just token.