Are these Final Fantasy games worth it?
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9 is my favorite in the series. 8 was alright, if a little grindy.
Your premise is wrong, though, there is absolutely no consensus on any game in the FF franchise. Aside from the FACT that 2 was shit. I personally didn't care much for 7. It's not bad, I just don't like the characters. I like 10, 12 and 13 very much, some hate them with a passion.
Your premise is wrong, though, there is absolutely no consensus on any game in the FF franchise. Aside from the FACT that 2 was shit. I personally didn't care much for 7. It's not bad, I just don't like the characters. I like 10, 12 and 13 very much, some hate them with a passion.
Final Fantasy IX was the best and VIII was pretty good.
No Final Fantasy fans will ever agree though. I personally consider IX the best, followed by XIII and then II.
No Final Fantasy fans will ever agree though. I personally consider IX the best, followed by XIII and then II.
It was less "fix" and more a few tweaks, but it was hardly "horrendous". I played the damn game when I was 12 without any help from a guide, and never abused the system and managed to beat the game and enjoyed it. It had sparks of brilliance in its stat growth system, but a few minor issues held it back. It was hard as hell, but hey, so was the first and third games.Austin Howe said:
Really, it's the one game I don't get why it receives a lot of hate. The story for its time was comprehensible and was probably deeper than most of what you'd find on other NES games. Simple smart usage of party members in battle made some of the design issues not so terrible.
Depends on what you like in a game. Here's my personal rundown:
FINAL FANTASY VIII
GOOD BITS:
*Rich, varied world to explore
*Deep, interesting story
BAD BITS:
*Junction system is needlessly complicated
*Magic system can get tedious and frustrating
*"Moody, Pessimistic Douchebag" - type protagonist
(Have to confess, I don't really like VIII that much.)
FINAL FANTASY IX
GOOD BITS:
*Varied, lovable main characters
*Cheerful, optimistic protagonist[small] (Yeah, this IS kind of important to me. After all, you see the game primarily through the eyes of the protagonist, so if they think everything sucks, you're bound to start agreeing with them eventually.)[/small]
*The last game in the series in which Hironobu Sakaguchi was involved - making it, in many ways, the FINAL Final Fantasy!
*Packed with references to earlier FF games
*Musical score is regarded by composer Nobuo Uematsu as the best he's ever written.
BAD BITS:
(Can't seem to think of any. Probably a bit of fanboy bias on my part - this IS my favorite FF game!)
FINAL FANTASY VIII
GOOD BITS:
*Rich, varied world to explore
*Deep, interesting story
BAD BITS:
*Junction system is needlessly complicated
*Magic system can get tedious and frustrating
*"Moody, Pessimistic Douchebag" - type protagonist
(Have to confess, I don't really like VIII that much.)
FINAL FANTASY IX
GOOD BITS:
*Varied, lovable main characters
*Cheerful, optimistic protagonist[small] (Yeah, this IS kind of important to me. After all, you see the game primarily through the eyes of the protagonist, so if they think everything sucks, you're bound to start agreeing with them eventually.)[/small]
*The last game in the series in which Hironobu Sakaguchi was involved - making it, in many ways, the FINAL Final Fantasy!
*Packed with references to earlier FF games
*Musical score is regarded by composer Nobuo Uematsu as the best he's ever written.
BAD BITS:
(Can't seem to think of any. Probably a bit of fanboy bias on my part - this IS my favorite FF game!)
Final Fantasy VIII had one of the best stories. Though the worst battle system for the Pre-SquareEnix Final Fantasy games.
And Final Fantasy 9..... IS THE BEST ONE EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT AND IT IS PERFECT IN EVERY ASPECT!!!!!1!11!!!one!!1ONE! Perfect cast of characters (Well... except for one who I wanted to put a gun to s/he's head every single time s/he talked. Or was on screen. Or was mentioned.) battle system was the closest to the 1-6 battle system since the PS1. Best music I have ever heard.
I also liked 7, good story (Though 2 of the main characters were angsty fucks), Really good battle system (Liked the Materia system alot) and over all just damn good.
I liked 10 because of many reasons. 1. Last game to have the classic battle system (Screw X-2, and put aside the 1-6 remakes that have come out for DS and PSP) 2. Last game from the SquareSoft era. 3. I like a lot of the characters except the protagonist.
And Final Fantasy 9..... IS THE BEST ONE EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT AND IT IS PERFECT IN EVERY ASPECT!!!!!1!11!!!one!!1ONE! Perfect cast of characters (Well... except for one who I wanted to put a gun to s/he's head every single time s/he talked. Or was on screen. Or was mentioned.) battle system was the closest to the 1-6 battle system since the PS1. Best music I have ever heard.
I also liked 7, good story (Though 2 of the main characters were angsty fucks), Really good battle system (Liked the Materia system alot) and over all just damn good.
I liked 10 because of many reasons. 1. Last game to have the classic battle system (Screw X-2, and put aside the 1-6 remakes that have come out for DS and PSP) 2. Last game from the SquareSoft era. 3. I like a lot of the characters except the protagonist.
I couldn't get into 8, 10 or 13. I can't comment particularly on 8, but 10 and 13 felt kinda... like they were falling into a pattern, a pattern which I wasn't really into. The characters weren't really likeable and the story was kinda blah.
I don't have too many memories of generation 1 ff games (1-6).
7 was alright, though honestly I never felt the immense awe that everyone else who plays it seems to feel.
Tactics was by far the best FF IMO, the storyline was incredible and the gameplay was awesome. Very few games come close to Tactics IMO.
I really enjoyed 9 as well, it wasn't as good as Tactics (little is), but I actually found myself liking most characters and enjoying myself as I played.
12 was pretty good, I honestly wasn't that concerned with the story, but the new combat system was pretty cool.
I don't have too many memories of generation 1 ff games (1-6).
7 was alright, though honestly I never felt the immense awe that everyone else who plays it seems to feel.
Tactics was by far the best FF IMO, the storyline was incredible and the gameplay was awesome. Very few games come close to Tactics IMO.
I really enjoyed 9 as well, it wasn't as good as Tactics (little is), but I actually found myself liking most characters and enjoying myself as I played.
12 was pretty good, I honestly wasn't that concerned with the story, but the new combat system was pretty cool.
Well... I tried playing 12. The game was too much drama(even though I like watching drama movies such as the Elephant Man, Freaks, and What Dreams Might Come).
I'm more of a Dragon Quest fan myself. Both 8 and 9 seem to be full of fun and puns. Even though 9 isn't as good as 8(other players say it's the other way around), both have been a enjoyable experience with mixed emotions gaining pathos from the viewer. Rather it be humor of a silly situation such as a elderly man wanting be in a French maid dress to the sadness of sacrifices made by the protagonists, villains, and side characters.
Though... People might think the same way with FF, I prefer DQ just a bit higher.
Just to add, I've never played FF9, but the visuals make me want to play it.
I'm more of a Dragon Quest fan myself. Both 8 and 9 seem to be full of fun and puns. Even though 9 isn't as good as 8(other players say it's the other way around), both have been a enjoyable experience with mixed emotions gaining pathos from the viewer. Rather it be humor of a silly situation such as a elderly man wanting be in a French maid dress to the sadness of sacrifices made by the protagonists, villains, and side characters.
Though... People might think the same way with FF, I prefer DQ just a bit higher.
Just to add, I've never played FF9, but the visuals make me want to play it.
FF love and hate is about two things.
1: Which game you started on, which game you first understood for what it actually was and took as a part of the genre of rpgs. Many people have that first game be their favorite, I do that, FFVIII was that for me. I did play VII a bit before it but I was too young and my being not a native English speaker prevented me from understanding anything about it, I did revisit it later though and I do like it a ton but not as much as VIII. I loved the story, was completely immersed into the world and it was what opened the window to the world of RPGs for me, thus is my favorite game of all time.
2: What game is the most different from #1. I loved VIII, X, XIII (in that order), I disliked XII and to a much lesser degree IX (i just really hated Trance as a system, way worse than drawing magic IMO). Common elements between those titles are obvious, i like the ones with heavy focus on stories, romance, animelike themes and really meaningful endings. XII was lost due to the gameplay being like XI but without the online interactions and dumbed down considerably and IX...like i said...i mostly liked it other than the trance system and the terrible ending which gave me zero closure, it was like a fairy tale lol. Even the retro theme was not all that much like FFI-III, it was like FFVI which was decent (i played it ages after it was first released so it didn't have the impact it would if i played it when it was new...but i was like 7 at the time and like i said i wouldn't have understood a word)
1: Which game you started on, which game you first understood for what it actually was and took as a part of the genre of rpgs. Many people have that first game be their favorite, I do that, FFVIII was that for me. I did play VII a bit before it but I was too young and my being not a native English speaker prevented me from understanding anything about it, I did revisit it later though and I do like it a ton but not as much as VIII. I loved the story, was completely immersed into the world and it was what opened the window to the world of RPGs for me, thus is my favorite game of all time.
2: What game is the most different from #1. I loved VIII, X, XIII (in that order), I disliked XII and to a much lesser degree IX (i just really hated Trance as a system, way worse than drawing magic IMO). Common elements between those titles are obvious, i like the ones with heavy focus on stories, romance, animelike themes and really meaningful endings. XII was lost due to the gameplay being like XI but without the online interactions and dumbed down considerably and IX...like i said...i mostly liked it other than the trance system and the terrible ending which gave me zero closure, it was like a fairy tale lol. Even the retro theme was not all that much like FFI-III, it was like FFVI which was decent (i played it ages after it was first released so it didn't have the impact it would if i played it when it was new...but i was like 7 at the time and like i said i wouldn't have understood a word)
The only complaint I've ever heard against IX (besides a completely unsupported two-sentence pinch on some websites "Top 10 Overrated" list0, is that Spoony really hated the cartoon/anime character design and art style, which is part of it's throwback appeal. In truth, one of the few true risks the game takes, as graphics were a big deal back in the PS1 days (wait, that never changed), and making a game that wasn't hard to make look good was not common. See VIII for comparison, it has by far the most realistic character and world design, and possibly the best Realist graphics on the Playstation.
9 was AWESOMEmegaman24681012 said:
it was like 1-4 in 3D
8, well I liked it but everyone else seems to hate it because "UGH! JUNCTIONING IS TOO CONFUSING AND DRAWING IS STUPID! WHY DID THEY CHANGE IT?!"
...despite that materia was also different from learning spells and using mana, which was also different from the classic buying spells
EDIT: oh the only "down-side" to 9
pretty much everyone is a kid... weather that's good or bad is up to you, but only one character is older then 18 (last I checked)
I liked 1-7 8 is good as long as its not considered a "Final Fantasy" title. 9 was good. Tactics was awesome. 10 wasn't awful, but it certainly began Square's plummet to suckage.
11 had a lot of features I liked in an MMO that I wish other MMO's would adopt. Sadly, those features didn't keep it from making its way onto my bad list. X-2 was waaaay too over the top for me. It had a decent concept but I didn't like the thought of playing with Barbies. Also I didn't think 10 was a sequel worthy title. (for those of you chomping at the bit, to hear which title(s) I think should get a sequel, they'd have to be 6,7, and Tactics.) 12 didn't interest me at all, so I can't officially say that I think it sucks. I haven't played it. 13.....everyone says "you gotta play it for 20 or so hours before it gets good." That's exactly where I lost any and all interest to keep playing. As for 14. A. I've kinda grown out of MMO's B. It got such bad reviews that I didn't even pick up it's game box to give it a look.
11 had a lot of features I liked in an MMO that I wish other MMO's would adopt. Sadly, those features didn't keep it from making its way onto my bad list. X-2 was waaaay too over the top for me. It had a decent concept but I didn't like the thought of playing with Barbies. Also I didn't think 10 was a sequel worthy title. (for those of you chomping at the bit, to hear which title(s) I think should get a sequel, they'd have to be 6,7, and Tactics.) 12 didn't interest me at all, so I can't officially say that I think it sucks. I haven't played it. 13.....everyone says "you gotta play it for 20 or so hours before it gets good." That's exactly where I lost any and all interest to keep playing. As for 14. A. I've kinda grown out of MMO's B. It got such bad reviews that I didn't even pick up it's game box to give it a look.
Nine was spectacular. I loved it from start to finish.
Eight had it's moments too but again it kinda walks that edge of serious Sci-fi elements in some cases which fantasy does override but not as obviously as Nine which is a giant nostalgia trip but is quite blatantly a Final FANTASY. Rather than a Final Story with strange universe elements.
And the villain in nine. I'll not spoil it but he's awesome. Just...everything about him is just so ...is there a word for Cool but Flamboyant?
I dunno he's a walking contradiction.
I think I regard nine so highly because ten put the series to death for me. It was just not my cup of tea. And seem to take all the negative elements I saw in 7 and 8 and mesh them with even more elements I was tired of.
So alas no more FF games for me.
Eight had it's moments too but again it kinda walks that edge of serious Sci-fi elements in some cases which fantasy does override but not as obviously as Nine which is a giant nostalgia trip but is quite blatantly a Final FANTASY. Rather than a Final Story with strange universe elements.
And the villain in nine. I'll not spoil it but he's awesome. Just...everything about him is just so ...is there a word for Cool but Flamboyant?
I dunno he's a walking contradiction.
I think I regard nine so highly because ten put the series to death for me. It was just not my cup of tea. And seem to take all the negative elements I saw in 7 and 8 and mesh them with even more elements I was tired of.
So alas no more FF games for me.
Final Fanatasy 7 is the ALPHA and the OMEGA, the Creator and the Destroyer. Yeah, that kind of thing does get old fast. FFX was the first Final Fantasy game I completed. I bought FF7 a little while after that. It wasnt a bad game, and it wasnt particulary impressive. Yet when I tell people that, they act like I just slapped their motherAlizee Serenity said:
Just tell them Aeris deserved to die and make enemies for life
I'd call it hideously low utility. The GFs hit harder and provide defense and Junctioning actively encourages you not to cast spells because it affects your stats.busterkeatonrules said:
I think in all my playthroughs, my only non-draw-cast spells were against Diablos.
8 is a little emo for my tastes. Though the cutscenes-as-pre-rendered backgrounds is pretty gob-smacking when you first see it. And it was very good at plotting 'missions'. I'm thinking of the parade.
9, on the other hand, is about as goddamn charming as fantasy--particularly in gaming--gets. The characters are well-drawn and RIDICULOUSLY likable. The setting is fantastic. The story flows right along. It's an extremely well-made game. Perhaps not the best, but it is without a doubt my favorite JRPG ever.
9, on the other hand, is about as goddamn charming as fantasy--particularly in gaming--gets. The characters are well-drawn and RIDICULOUSLY likable. The setting is fantastic. The story flows right along. It's an extremely well-made game. Perhaps not the best, but it is without a doubt my favorite JRPG ever.