Are Torrents and Free Downloads Illegal?
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Torrents are legal.
The content on them has been a matter of international dispute for several years, and is still ongoing.
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The content on them has been a matter of international dispute for several years, and is still ongoing.
This picture may be of slight interest to you:
Saw it on a black background where "www.freemoviesonline.com" once stood.
individual distribution is illegal however it would depend how many people we are talking about even so this is considered small time crime and would rather petty to enforce harsh laws partly because the amount of evidence that would be needed would be unsubstantial even for the court of law unless you had a full written statement with your confession in which case the punishment is likely to be the destruction of the evidence and a slap on the wrist
doing this via internet is different, when you post/upload information you are publishing this which can be accessed to hundreds of people (this may depend on the server's location country laws~) thus begins the argument of sale losses
mortality is a completely different argument, first one would have to define mortality and mostly then its an opinion
doing this via internet is different, when you post/upload information you are publishing this which can be accessed to hundreds of people (this may depend on the server's location country laws~) thus begins the argument of sale losses
mortality is a completely different argument, first one would have to define mortality and mostly then its an opinion
as I said before, I learned that from a really lazy teacher and I didnt really trust what he was saying.soapyshooter said:
but thats the desrpition im goingwith, too lazy to change it
Yeah, big surprise that when 90% of PC gamers are pirating that the majority of people are telling you go ahead and give them free software. Of course, if you get prosecuted for distribution, like people do all the time [http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2005-03-07-az-teen-downloader-convicted_x.htm], it's you who suffer and not they. Contrary to popular belief, "legal" is not the same as "the FBI hasn't got around to identifying and convicting me yet."
Fair Use does not protect distribution of a copyrighted work due to effect upon the work's value [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Effect_upon_work.27s_value]. Even in the event that you can find fair use in one particular (e.g. the "purpose and character" is distinctly non-profit) any violation of any of the other major parts of fair use law will prevent something from being fair use. Furthermore, even in the event that something looks like it complies in fair use in every way, the specifics of a case may prevent something from being considered under fair use.
I learned my understanding of Fair Use on a university level. You'll want to contact your teacher for clarification, because I think you're a bit confused on the specifics.
Fair Use does not protect distribution of a copyrighted work due to effect upon the work's value [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Effect_upon_work.27s_value]. Even in the event that you can find fair use in one particular (e.g. the "purpose and character" is distinctly non-profit) any violation of any of the other major parts of fair use law will prevent something from being fair use. Furthermore, even in the event that something looks like it complies in fair use in every way, the specifics of a case may prevent something from being considered under fair use.
I learned my understanding of Fair Use on a university level. You'll want to contact your teacher for clarification, because I think you're a bit confused on the specifics.
Never heard of distribution being legal if you buy something. I know fair use is legal, but it has to prove a political, social or scientific point. The distribution thing sounds like a technicality that really doesn't mean anything, because it's really up to interpretation.NoblePhilistineFox said:
But how, exactly, is distributing things immoral? So is burning a CD for a friend is bad? Sure, it's not on the same scale as throwing it on the internet, but I fail to see how terrible piracy is when there isn't even much evidence that it's negatively impacting the media industry. In fact, there's even evidence that shows that piracy can be good for the industry.
Top 10 Most Pirated TV Shows of 2009 [http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-most-pirated-tv-shows-of-2008-081223/]
Oh man, shows like Lost and Heroes are losing money right and left due to all this damn piracy!
And it's not just about free stuff, here's a quote from the article:
"Perhaps even more importantly, the rise of unauthorized downloading of TV-shows is a signal that customers want something that is not available through other channels. Availability seems to be the key issue why people turn to BitTorrent."
I want to watch my shit whenever I want, wherever I want, and piracy allows that. No limitations, no DRM. It's my shit. I fucking downloaded all three seasons of Breaking Bad because my dad was getting sick of missing episodes of Breaking Bad because he couldn't always watch it at specific times it aired, and then having no way to catch up. Oh but there's that pay for On Demand shit! Woah! My Dad couldn't catch Breaking Bad when it aired, therefore he deserves to pay extra money to watch a show we are already paying monthly fees for.
And check this shit out! [http://moreintelligentlife.com/story/internet-piracy-is-good-for-films-1] Piracy helped a low-budget film reach a bigger audience. It sold well and made more money then expected.
"In the case of "The Man from Earth", 2,000 people who downloaded it encouraged 20,000 more to go and check it out in cinemas and WalMarts by giving it a top IMDB rating. By losing money on 2,000 viewers, the film made money on 20,000 more.
not always because torrents are just ways of transporting data so sure transporting a game to someone is illegal unless the person made it, but sending a family picture or something isnt,
is that intelligent thought on the internet backed by fact and logic?TheLaofKazi said:
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it bothers me most how arbitrary the crackdowns on piracy is. its so pathetic they might as well not bother. busting a couple hundred college students for downloading death magnetic is just pointless. if they were going to enforce their piracy laws in a meaningful fashion, they should go after the people who actually make this stuff happen. the people who put together cracked copies of games. obviously, its nearly impossible to stop piracy, and their pathetic charade attempts to stop it do nothing but encourage it simply out of annoyance. most people who illegally download games plan on buying them legally if they like them, so it ends up being more like an expanded demo then anything else. and who really gives a crap about the music industry's profit margin? madonna made 125 million last year no one should care if a few people download her songs without paying for them
Are torrents legal? Technically yes it is the content they distribute that is illegal. Is it moral to steal songs on them? not really but it is even less moral to sue someone $250,000 for every song they downloaded in or to "Make an example of them." Thats not going to stop piracy or even slow it down and the guys who initiate the lawsuit know that. What it will do is make the RIAA a shitload of money along with the tears of a thousand children that they can use in their rituals to summon the chosen one.
That is so wrong. First sale doctrine applies to everything. Well everything it seems except software. Which is ridiculous, and only that was because they have convinced everyone that it shouldn't - but that's another point. Think about a book. That is a piece of intellectual property as well. Think about what you are allowed to do with a book. Without a question you should be allowed to do that with a piece of software as well. Resale, lend (but never more then one install), give, use, modify, etc.teh_pwning_dude said:
However distributing copies would be like scanning and printing out the pages. Just because you don't make any money off it does not make it right. You have to have permission from the copyright holder to copy any part of their text in any way not covered under fair use (like taking quotes from it).
Now maybe software does need some special restrictions against modifications, but you have to ask yourself why it should have the other restrictions. I can't think of any good reason.