Are we, Star War fans, overreacting?

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Let me put it this way, is Jabba the Hutt fat?

Seriously people, if you don't like these alterations, don't buy the fucking blue-rays!
 

JWRosser

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Nooooooooooooooooooooo!


Sorry...
But I think people have a right to be pissed off - I just think the franchise is being milked a bit. But if you don't like it, don't buy it.
 

Arsen

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I'm not going to lie. Not at all...

I didn't care about the following details:

- Greedo shooting first
- The Sarlaac Pit being edited
- The Jabba CGI scene
- The Ewoks getting eyes (pains me, but still...not that big of a deal)

The majority of things Lucas has done has been to more or less edit the scenes to fit in a new flavor. By all means I PREFER the original, but for what it's worth I won't go crazy over the new edits.

However, the Vader scene bugs me. Why? Here is why?

- George Lucas does not care or even consider the fanbase's reaction to the movies
- He hasn't even responded to the controversy
- He doesn't acknowledge that the fans respectfully don't want this
- He is trying to hard to tie in a modern day, overly CGI ridden movie that feels like a clunky videogame with bad plotlines, bad acting, bad dialogue, dance movement choreography instead of actual fighting...to a classic series of movies that have inspired generations and is in a sense, something people will look back on us for in generations to come...by adding dialogue that completely and totally alters the context of the scene in such a way that it destroys all feeling and antiquity of the scene.

Do we overreact? Sometimes. Is it justified? Add CGI to Citizen Kane, Seven Samurai, or The Godfather and then get back with us on that one.
 

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karamazovnew said:
Thyunda said:
Slapping the Star Wars label on a load of generic shooters and shit? Fine. Universe expansion and all that. Star Wars has a big universe.
Whooow there, Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight was a revolutionary FPS in its time. X-Wing and Tie-Fighter were awesome space shooters (I can't really call them simulators). And Kotor 1 had a better story than all 6 movies put together.

Anyway, since this is bluray, I can't figure out why they couldn't mash together separate versions, you'd just choose from the menu which version (original unaltered & CG crap added versions) and the movie would just swap particular scenes.
I probably should have been more specific - I didn't actually mean every Star Wars game was bad. I just meant that I can excuse bad games that were created to milk the franchise.
 

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I have the old DVD's that don't have the "Noo..." So I'm good. It's annoying that he had to go back and redo it but it's what he wants. Honestly, if I were to alter the series I would remove Jar Jar.
 

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So this is just the blue-ray right? Not the regular DVD or HD-DVDs...as everyone said why over react when you can simply not buy it? Many people whom are getting angry about this may not even buy them in the end.
 

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Fiz_The_Toaster said:
lovestomooch said:
Doesn't bother me, I bought the unaltered Trilogy and have yet to see any of the altered versions all the way through. Why doesn't he alter the first 3? Maybe he could digitally remove Jar Jar Binks?
We would never be that lucky.

OT: Perhaps a little. At this point for me, it's just a sigh and silent plea for him to just stop. I think a lot of SW fans are getting way too pissed off about what Lucas is doing to their favorite series. Yeah they are terrible ideas, but not enough to cry for blood.

Why he feels the need to keep tampering with them is beyond me, other than a quite cash grab of course.
Did you see how old Harrison Ford looked in Indy 4? Spielberg thinks it's getting ridiculous but ol' George believes he could do it again. Harrison even said a 5th was being talked about! He's unstoppable! I agree, nothing but shameless cash grabbing. Make something new.
 

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You know, I was hesitant to cry foul, at first.

But then, by chance, I caught the end of Jedi the other night on Spike. And you know what? Vader being silent as he decides his course and throws the emperor around makes a stronger case for the character. It keeps him attached to the concept that he really wanted to help his children, rather than be some kind of cartoon villain suddenly gifted a change of heart given the sight of his child, and chief antagonist, being tortured. It reinforced the original teachings of his youth, no matter how much you despise those CGI horrorfests.

So no. I don't think so. There was amazing, once. But changing amazing ultimately makes it, well, not amazing. This is a lesson Lucas needs to learn.
 

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Whenever someone defends Lucas, they are only telling people to stop complaining. I've never heard anyone claim Greedo shooting first was a good thing, and I bet I'll never hear anyone saying that Darth Vader's "NOOO" in Jedi improved the movie. Only defense is "it's not that big of a deal".

Well, FUCK YOU, because it is. It's unnecessarily changing timeless classics for the worse. Maybe in subtle ways that don't destroy the movie as a whole, but in the end they only detract from the movie, they never improve it. They should not exist. So unless you think the movies are changed for the better, shut up. Don't stand in the way of the fans completely justified outcry.
 

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Istvan said:
I recall hearing that Lucas was planning a Star Wars sitcom where we see the everyday lives of the characters, including Jar Jar Binks.

I stopped reading. piled up all of my Star Wars DVDs and videogames, walked to my little brothers room and told him. "Here you go, I give up."

Hopefully I'll regret this someday.
Actually, that is sort of the premise for an upcoming Seth Green Star Wars comedy show. Think the Robot Chicken sketches mixed with The Backyardigans. That's what the premise is supposed to be apparently.
 

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lovestomooch said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
lovestomooch said:
Doesn't bother me, I bought the unaltered Trilogy and have yet to see any of the altered versions all the way through. Why doesn't he alter the first 3? Maybe he could digitally remove Jar Jar Binks?
We would never be that lucky.

OT: Perhaps a little. At this point for me, it's just a sigh and silent plea for him to just stop. I think a lot of SW fans are getting way too pissed off about what Lucas is doing to their favorite series. Yeah they are terrible ideas, but not enough to cry for blood.

Why he feels the need to keep tampering with them is beyond me, other than a quite cash grab of course.
Did you see how old Harrison Ford looked in Indy 4? Spielberg thinks it's getting ridiculous but ol' George believes he could do it again. Harrison even said a 5th was being talked about! He's unstoppable! I agree, nothing but shameless cash grabbing. Make something new.
I was much happier forgetting that the 4th movie existed. Yeah, he was super old in that one and every action scene he was in looked weird and awkward. Make something new? Surely you jest, this is Lucas we're talking about, why would he ever do that?

Wait....there's a 5th being talked about? Why? Just, why? Is he trying to ruin every movie from my childhood that he's made? HAS HE NO SHAME!!!
 

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I have recently come to the conclusion that George Lucas is simply a troll. He does these things in order to get a rise out of us because he knows that's exactly what's going to happen. He simply likes to sit on his throne of cash and smile while we scream. Only explanation left that fits. Personally, I still defend him--without him, my favorite franchise would never exist and I will always be grateful--but it's getting a bit silly now.

That being said, I'm TOTALLY buying the original movies this Friday. Deleted scenes, people. REAL deleted scenes. With a B-WING PILOT!! HIZZAH!