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almostgold

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What?? No. If there is a good game I want, then I will buy it. Intentionally withholding products you want from yourself doesn't seem like a very good plan...
 

dWintermut3

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Dexter111 said:
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darksakul said:
I never was interested in Activision games to begin with.
Only Activision game I own, Guitar Hero Metallica was given to me as a gift because my friends knew I was a Metallica fan.
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dWintermut3 said:
If we have a problem with it we have only ourselves to blame for sucking up pablum. Boycotting activision would be shooting yourself in the foot to spite your leg if you enjoy the games they put out, if you don't, there's a massive indy community now thanks to new ways of publishing content and the magic that is the XBLA and Steam, buy indy if you want to see a change, but if you enjoy what the major studios are pushing out, and you know what, I often do, go for it.
There's a VERY large area between "Call of Duty 53" and "Experimental Indie Title". What Activision releases is shovelware pure and simple. They're milking all their franchaises literally to death, to make short term profits. And once (for example) call of duty is no longer profitable (Due to their own poor business decisions) they'll drop it like that. *Finger snap*

This is no way to run a business, and this is not a business I will support.

You have a point, of course, but on the other hand some surprisingly innovative-but-still mainstream titles have come out of activision, like Singularity.

I did simplify, of course, and other publishers are proving you can be judicious in your use of a license and make serious bank with it (bungee, bioware, both have been careful not to oversell a good thing with Halo:reach being the confirmed last Halo title and Mass Effect being confirmed at three titles in a trilogy and no direct sequels).
The guys that made Singularity were my favorite FPS developer of all time, they did Hexen/Heretic, Soldier of Fortune, Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force, Star Wars: Jedi Knight 2+3 (JK2 is still my fav FPS but it's dead) and also Quake4 and Wolfenstein lately...

What did Activision do? They fired almost half of the dev team: g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/698729/Activision-Confirms-Raven-Software-Layoffs.html

And now the rest is working on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Software

Call of Duty: Black Ops downloadable content (2011)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (in development)
Oh trust me I know.

I live in Madison, WI, I know quite a few of the Raven boys, I hang out with them on occasion. It's a crying shame what Activision did but their latest games just haven't sold well. I know the guys on both the Wolfenstein and Singularity teams and that's why I can't really ever boycott activision.

Hexen and Jedi Knight for the absolute win. I'm just sad that activision couldn't hand winners like that to my friends. Sometimes the developers get screwed by the company it's true.

But to boycott the publisher hurts the development corporation EVEN WORSE. and that's why I think boycotting activision is stupid. Sure, you'll hurt activision, you'll hurt companies like Raven even worse. And trust me if not hampered by corporate politics those guys can program like mad.
 

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The above message actually saddens me. I came in here to put a mediocre troll with the lines "Activision is boycottable? Eh." and only that, but to see Raven going downhill like that legitimately makes me want to cry.

Jedi Academy was a great game. PC-wise, it's STILL GOING on GameFront (No, I don't know why FileFront changed it's name). I used to work as staff there. It was, and still is, an easily modifiable game, yet had its own quirks to keep you interested.

Seeing them being forced to resort to the constant failure that I have always believed the CoD series is, makes me want to turn off the internet altogether.

That being said, I'm still not boycotting them. I can bet you Raven is being forced into this.
 

dWintermut3

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Denariax said:
The above message actually saddens me. I came in here to put a mediocre troll with the lines "Activision is boycottable? Eh." and only that, but to see Raven going downhill like that legitimately makes me want to cry.

Jedi Academy was a great game. PC-wise, it's STILL GOING on GameFront (No, I don't know why FileFront changed it's name). I used to work as staff there. It was, and still is, an easily modifiable game, yet had its own quirks to keep you interested.

Seeing them being forced to resort to the constant failure that I have always believed the CoD series is, makes me want to turn off the internet altogether.

That being said, I'm still not boycotting them. I can bet you Raven is being forced into this.
well said as well. And that's the problem. Activision won't feel a thing, they have the residuals from World of Warcraft, which makes more money than most third-world countries. But as you hurt Activision you gut companies like Raven, who are locally-owned, socially-responsible corporations that are trying desperately to make it in a recession entertainment economy.
 

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Things they've said and done (many through Bobby Kottick):
The whole [http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2010/03/05/activision-responds-to-infinity-ward-lawsui/1] Infinity Ward [http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/modern-warfare-2/news/kotick-infinity-ward-founders-may-never-be-productive-or-successful-again-feelings-are-hurt/a-20100927102253716065/g-20090326142018906090] debacle. [http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/12/activision-infinity-ward-lawsuit/]

Pushing for more titles which they can "exploit on an annual basis" [http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/12/5/]

"I would raise game prices higher if I could" [http://www.destructoid.com/kotick-i-would-raise-game-prices-higher-if-i-could-143049.phtml]

Hinting at franchises like Call of Duty becoming subscription-based [http://ps3.ign.com/articles/106/1068433p1.html]

And the Escapists' own Shamus Young wrote a fine article on Kotick's failure as a CEO [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/8169-Experienced-Points-Age-of-Kotick.2]
Now, I can see Bobby Kotick as a dick here, but the CEO being a some sort of money grubbing corporate psycho should't really be a game breaker. It's one thing when the CEO of a company acts like you would expect a CEO to act, namely as a money grubbing corporate psycho, but to boycott an entire company, a collective of thousands of people, working hard to make the best products they can, simply because the guy waving the cattle prod is annoying? That's like refusing to tip the slaves that make your clothes because you hate the guy that whips them. Now the hate for EA, for the grievous atrocities their marketing department has perpetrated in the name of profit? The horrible crimes they have committed against all the artists in the medium, both working for them, and for other people, to say nothing of the ones to come in the future, that have rippling effects across the entire gaming medium and in the way the world views such a new and budding art form? THAT is more than enough reason to boycott a company.

P.S. I have been watching a LOT of Extra Credits tonight, so this might be a little exaggerated, but still, EA is starting to get on my nerves with their infuriatingly juvenile marketing tactics.
 

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I don't agree personally with Activision, they killed two great series. Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk. Why? Because they decide to cash-cow all our beloved games by releasing new unfinished titles and expansions every 6-12 months.

I'm glad that Blizzard is telling Activision to take a hike and stay out of their business, I don't want to see an expansion for Starcraft 2 coming out every single year to kill the franchise.
Dude, we're dealing with Activision here. If they had it their way they'd assign three different companies to the StarCraft franchise and release full sequels every 3 months!


OT: After that abortion that was Modern Warfare 2 and the recent canning of the True Crime reboot that was one of the games I was looking forward to the most in the next year or so (behind Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, Skyrim, Red Faction Armageddon and possibly Saints Row 3), I'm not buying another Activision title ever. Even if they somehow manage to acquire Bioware, Rockstar and Bethesda.

They run every awesome franchise into the ground by over stimulating the market with it until people lose all interest. Guitar Hero was awesome up until Guitar Hero 3, then it just started to turn into a nightmare. Tony Hawk was awesome and American Wasteland maintains to be one of my favorite games on the PS2, but then they just utterly destroyed it. Now they are murdering Call of Duty, which up to Call of Duty 4 was one of my favorite shooters ever, then they just slowly started to torture it by releasing World at War, Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops. Activision literally killed my childhood.
 

tthor

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I would say I'm boycotting them, but i can't remember the last time i've even purchased an activision game
 

Jonny1188

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Now, because I think boycotting a company means that you would otherwise buy their product if it weren't for moral objections, I am not boycotting Activision - I just don't like Activision products. I just checked my physical game library, and the companies I have on my shelf are Konami (2), EA (1), Take-Two (2), Valve (2), Ubisoft (3), Zenimax (1) and THQ (1). For the most part, the only companies I like are Take-Two, Valve and Ubisoft, because they produce blockbuster games, but they offer great, unique experiences. Activision provides the blockbusters, but with no artistic depth to make a game an experience - there just isn't any soul there, which showed most famously with the Guitar Hero franchise.

It's not that their a big company. It's not that Bobby Kotick can't shut his god damn mouth. It's that they're not good at making games, except for Call of Duty's multiplayer, although I attribute that to other parties - they just stole the formula and are going to ride that pony with their $15 add-ons and annual releases until it's ground up into a fine pony powder between their fat, smug, unoriginal, untalented legs.
 

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I'm glad that Blizzard is telling Activision to take a hike and stay out of their business, I don't want to see an expansion for Starcraft 2 coming out every single year to kill the franchise.
You mean the other 2/3 of the campaign that are each going to be released and likely priced as a full retail game?
 

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I'd like to say that I'd boycott Activision for their actions, but I'm willing to admit now that if they publish a game that I really want I'd cave and buy it. Luckily, it looks like I'm sort of boycotting Activision by the sole fact that they're no longer releasing any games I want to play, and have killed off pretty much every franchise that I used to enjoy.
 

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If It isn't Gran Turismo, fly super-awesome aircraft, or drive really fast, I don't care who makes it. Anyone heard the latest on Ace Combat 7?
 
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Mikeyfell said:
I've been boycotting Activision since before I knew they were evil.
I've been boycotting them because they're games suck
This would have been my vote if there were vote buttons.
churning out sequel after sequel does not get my pants as wet as it does for the CoD and guitar hero fans
 

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My two least favorite companies are EA and Activision. They're both huge corporations, and they both employ asshole tactics to get their money. The difference between the two is that EA actually makes a good game every so often.


And lets face it: Activision would be dead without COD.
They screwed up D3 and SC2 by deciding to make them in the first place. The stories were closed sufficiently and the story of SC2 is just... Woefully, woefully inadequate and disappointing.
 

Yuno Gasai

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I don't generally pay much attention to which game developers/publishers are which; what I look at is what their games have to offer, and whether it's anything I'm interested in.

If it is, fantastic - I'll think of buying that title. If not, too bad - I won't buy it.