Texas Joker 52 said:
Then again, it's been years since I've seen Justice League, so I can't say if he was a particularly active member. Regardless, that version was hardly the ineffectual hero that most would make him out to be, and that was arguably his best character design.
Eh, even when
Justice League went Unlimited (when the show's name changed and the OFFICIAL Justice League roster expanded WAY beyond the seven founders) a lot of the focus, when not directed at the seven founders, seemed to shift to Black Canary, Green Arrow, The Question, Supergirl. Aquaman got a few standout episodes especially compared to the much larger roster of other heroes available, POSSIBLY putting him in the rank of the heroes I just listed (it's been a while since I watched the series), but I still don't think we saw enough of him really to gauge how active he was. I'd say a little bit above fairly active, but not super active like Superman.
Leemaster777 said:
Akiraking said:
So now that I know this is a spoof of something else I don't really know how to respond.
Same.
Well, just know that, in all seriousness, I pretty much agree with the sentiment you have Akiraring,
Overall I think the internet should just continue it's natural course.
I thought putting that disclaimer would kind of ruin the joke, that this is meant as a lightheared poke at a thread that discusses something far more serious, yet at the same time I didn't want to deal with any really nasty responses. And, some people responding seemed to have missed the joke anyway, though it's hard for me to gauge if they did miss the joke or if they're just being really straightforward.
Akiraking said:
I like Aquaman and think he definitely deserves his spot on the Justice League and should be given more respect so of course I promote Aquaman defenders but at the same time all super heroes get mocked at times. Batman and Superman would not be such universally popular characters if it was not for things like Hishe's Super Cafe series. Everyone loves the Dark Knight but all you have to do to mock Batman is put on his over the top growl voice.
CommanderL said:
considering everyone seems to think he is a joke I think he needs it
he is one of my favourite heros one of the most underated ones
[NOTE: I put your quote here, so I wouldn't have to awkwardly ask you to shift through all the quotes I responded to find how I feel about that belief]
At the same time, I think many diehard Aquaman fans, though I've seen a fair share of laid back ones, of course, get too easily offended. I don't really care that get so offended honestly. I just think it's a detriment to themselves, wasted energy. It's actually kind of funny to watch.
You see, I thought of this because I have a friend who is even less into comics to me, but he seems my comic related stuff get to the top of his news feed on Facebook. I like animated and live action adaptions, so I follow pages like Justice League Memes, Justice League? More Like Batman and his bitches, Texts From Superheroes, things like that. He noticed all the Aquaman defenders as a result of seeing my activity and commented how they should realize how they've already won. Heck, the Batman and his bitches page's URL ends with "AquamanIsNotUseless". It made me think of the "Are you tired of SJW?" thread I'm spoofing, which I think is illegitimate in a lot of ways in its premises, not that there wasn't some good points made. Like I said, I hope if the OP of that sees this, he doesn't assume his character is being attacked or something. Anyway, I joked in that thread that Aquaman defenders are a more legitimate thing to be tired of if we were to use the same level of assumptions and anecdotal evidence and it still wouldn't be all that legitimate (I meant this as a semi-joke in that thread as well, so I didn't mention how it wouldn't be legitimate to keep the illusion of the joke). Hence, this thread was born.
Anyway, it's just, the diehard fans seem rather oblivious to the drop in negative perspective of him. I'd say overall, for a majority of people, they either don't know he exists or they don't care one way or the other. I suppose some people may see him all glistening in that wet spandex suit or whatever it is he wears that you'll often see if you look him up in Google Images and think lame though. Maybe his name sounds silly to people. Maybe the general public does have this huge, tangible negative perception of him still and I don't see it because the reasons to perceive him negatively have changed. I don't know.
As for Batman and Superman's popularity, I love HISHE, but even without that the average person would either love or at least know who they are. They've cemented themselves in pop culture beyond simple comic fandom.
The_Blue_Rider said:
I really liked the Justice League cartoon version of Aquaman, he's my second favourite Aquaman. My first is from the cartoon Batman the Brave and the Bold where he's just the cheeriest ************ in town, always with a song and dance ready.
Leemaster777 said:
And if you want something more fun, then Brave and the Bold has you covered. Aquaman is AMAZING in that show:
And he's voiced by John Dimaggio. You can't beat that.
I've only seen like maybe 2 whole episodes of that show and some clips. Still, I know exactly what you mean. That show seems like modern tribute to a campy era done right. Bravo to those people!
Leemaster777 said:
Personally, I'll put myself in the camp of Aquaman defenders. Because frankly, he's awesome. If you want your badass fix, then there's always the DCAU version where he beats up Cthulu, wrestles a T-Rex underwater, takes down Wonder Woman, and cuts off his own hand to save his son. I don't care who you are, that's hardcore.
It's so hardcore it's OUTRAGEOUS!
Though, a lot of people thought the Wonder Woman fight was inaccurate. A lot of people believe she should have won even taking into account he got her into his territory, his home field advantage.
Leonardo Huizar said:
Nope, he deserves his time in the sun where as Im just really gotten sick of Batman and all these darp brooding totally not emo "realistic" heroes. And its not like hed have nothing to do:hes got a big super ability set and hes taken the likes of Poseidon so he can maybe take on the old Gods on his own or with his souped up armies of merbeast & merpeople
I like Batman. Still, agree here. I'm so tired of the approach to superheroes nowadays. Keep in mind this thread is kind of a joke. I do really think Aquaman defense goes overboard; it's not that it's hurting anybody rather than it just seeming like wasted energy on a battle that doesn't really exist anymore. But, hey, if they want to keep doing what they're doing, I'm fine with that.
Super Cyborg said:
Let them do what they want. Aquaman isn't that popular so having defenders is good. Those who need to step back are Superman and Batman defenders. Both of them are not as great as you think, but they are popular enough so you don't need to defend them from everybody.
I don't see that many Superman defenders unless it's another discussion about Superman vs Goku. Batman defenders are ridiculous though and I say that as a Batman fan. Aquaman is indeed not that well known or popular, but the defenses are all about how he's looked down upon and minus trolls I just don't see any outright tangible movement around that anymore, maybe a few legit people here and there. They're just wasting unnecessary energy on a battle, that if they didn't win, at least isn't that significant anymore. I don't have a problem if they want to do it believe it or not; I actually find it kind of funny. Regardless, even if there still is a big tangible negative perception of Aquaman, do keep in mind that I said this in my original post
P.S.: For those who may have realized it: Yes, this is a spoof of [the "Are you tired of SJW"] discussion. I even paraphrased some of the OT's OP as well as one of my own posts in that thread!
For those who may not know, well now you know. If the OP of that thread sees this, I mean no ill will nor subtle mockery. I just wanted to do a lighthearted thing that resembles that discussion though admittedly it is partially intended as a joke at that discussion's expense.
thaluikhain said:
Well, for me, you kind of summed it up. The stereotypes and tropes really take me out of any pleasure I might have gotten. I don't find the humor clever or funny even when that stuff is toned down, if it ever is toned down. It goes for cheap laughs and I find the laugh track really outdated, unnecessary, and kind of sad when I heard that was real people in real time watching that as part of a studio audience. My sister leaned more towards the latter type of fan who loved it and when she got me to watch an episode (despite me telling her how I guarantee I wouldn't like it) it lead to me describing how it was kind of insulting and petty and a whole bunch of other stuff. She said something along the lines of it just being a TV show, a silly sitcom. That doesn't matter; that doesn't excuse that because after all entertainment can have important messages and it presents itself as somewhat resembling reality, if a goofy portion of it. It doesn't help that I don't think I've ever found a live action sitcom I liked. I like some animated sitcoms, but they've gone stale in my opinion. I don't have a problem with people who like BBT. I did sort of take a cheap shot at it there, but it's all meant as part of the joke this thread is anyway.
DaWaffledude said:
I suggest we come up with snappy names for both sides that let us reduce people into caricatures without considering them as individuals.
I'm thinking "AquaFriends" vs "TBBTers"
Queen Michael said:
I love Aquaman and will not stop definding my moist hero.
Little Woodsman said:
Aquaman
Defenders???
That really riles me up because people don't even know what they are talking about!!
Aquaman was
*never* in the Defenders, that was Namor!!
Namor is a completely different character! He can fly! And he has black hair and pointy ears! Totally different!
Come on people,
Defenders was a Marvel comics publication, Aquaman is a DC comics property!
Everyone really needs to take a look at what they are reading before they weigh in on topics like these!
ElMinotoro said:
This thread's premise is OUTRAGEOUS
You people. I think you get this. Actually, with Queen Michael, I'm more unsure. That comment is soooo...easy to be unsure about.
Majinash said:
DC animated universe did a LOT of things right. Slightly off topic but DCA universe did the best Flash I've ever seen. By far I think the Flash was the best member of the league, and whenever the show gave him screen time it showed how human he was. No one else in the show seemed like as real a person as Wally.
Yep, they did a lot of things right: Loved Flash in
Justice League. I did find it bizarre how they had trouble ending shows properly. A lot of people complain they saw an ending and got hyped for the next episode and it never came just to cite one of the many DCAU endings complaints. Then, there's the character continuity problems. There were quite a few discrepancies between one hero in
Justice League and his counterpart in say,
Superman: The Animated Series
Superman Aquaman
Justice League Aquaman
There's also what a lot of comic fans say is clearly more of a Barry Allen Flash depicted in Superman's series vs the more Wally West one we see in
Justice League and word of god says they're the same Flash. I'd link images like I just did with Aquaman, but they don't look visually different enough.
shrekfan246 said:
OT: I dunno, Aquaman has always seemed a little too stuffy for me. I don't care about his powers or anything, because he's every bit as "worthy" of being on the Justice League as someone like Batman, but his personality has never really been all that appealing in the few different portrayals I've seen.
Stepping out of the joking nature I intended for this discussion, I personally have liked the adaptions I've seen of Aquaman though he is a bit of a bland character, at least in a lot of adapted appearances.
Majinash said:
Of course: Clark Kent, Wally West, Bruce Wayne. What a great scene and yet I still mixed up the names.
Shame on you
