Arkham Asylum Pirates Get a Gimpy Batman
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Well, Earthbound was released back in 1995. That's about 10 years before YouTube was invented. It's also an RPG, so not being able to see the ending after putting 20-30 hours into it would have been incredibly maddening back then.TheCheesy4 said:
This is hilarious. Could that make it so any subsequent updates will cause the bug to appear again to those who got rid of it? I'm not real smart when it comes to this sort of thing I was wondering if it's possible?
So I read the first three pages, and because (to my endless surprise) nobody has said it yet, I doubt I'll find it on the next five, so here we go:
This is NOT awesome. Again: ABSOLUTELY NOT AWESOME.
You know why? See, I've got a legit copy of Mass Effect for the PC sitting on my shelf. Apart from standard-issue SecuROM, this game also had that kind of "innovative" DRM. Among other things, it makes overheated weapons NOT cool down unless you reload your game if it thinks it's pirated. Which it DOES, although it's legit.
See my point? This kind of scheme is a million years old and it needs to die already, because this kind of crap happens more than the developers and publishers can want it to happen. It affects (and has affected) a small, but not unsignificant share of honest customers. Imagine buying a game for 50 bucks only to find out it doesn't work right because it THINKS you're a pirate. Just like any other kind of DRM, it hurts the honest customers and doesn't really affect pirates. So yeah, way to go, Eidos.
This is NOT awesome. Again: ABSOLUTELY NOT AWESOME.
You know why? See, I've got a legit copy of Mass Effect for the PC sitting on my shelf. Apart from standard-issue SecuROM, this game also had that kind of "innovative" DRM. Among other things, it makes overheated weapons NOT cool down unless you reload your game if it thinks it's pirated. Which it DOES, although it's legit.
See my point? This kind of scheme is a million years old and it needs to die already, because this kind of crap happens more than the developers and publishers can want it to happen. It affects (and has affected) a small, but not unsignificant share of honest customers. Imagine buying a game for 50 bucks only to find out it doesn't work right because it THINKS you're a pirate. Just like any other kind of DRM, it hurts the honest customers and doesn't really affect pirates. So yeah, way to go, Eidos.
EPIC WIN. I agree that devs that put in this kind of protection are genius. Can't wait to hear about the Chocobo stampedes.
I did download it, I did find the bug (Another one though) and now I'm going to buy it.
The idea is ingenius, it let me try the game long enough to get involved and hooked.
AND the game is actually fun.
So if a company can pull that off (Get you hooked) and toss in a DRM like this, they've got a winning concept.
First of all it gave them time to release the game before the crackers get around the whole thing and secondly they've provided a Demo for the world to talk about, spreading the word.
I'm truly amazed by how elegant this was.
Now let's hope other companies go at it too.
Making good games that is.
The idea is ingenius, it let me try the game long enough to get involved and hooked.
AND the game is actually fun.
So if a company can pull that off (Get you hooked) and toss in a DRM like this, they've got a winning concept.
First of all it gave them time to release the game before the crackers get around the whole thing and secondly they've provided a Demo for the world to talk about, spreading the word.
I'm truly amazed by how elegant this was.
Now let's hope other companies go at it too.
Making good games that is.
Lol. Interesting.
Though I remember a lot of old-school games did this.
One I know of had the 'space police' come out and attack you if you left the initial solar system.
You could fight, and even kill them, but new ships would enter the fight faster than you could pick them off, and you could even run away, but it would be equally hard to get anywhere without running into more 'police'. And that's a game from 1989...
But one measure is a bit weak.
I recall reading about one game that had about a dozen measures similar to this, that all acted in different spots in the game, and some where quite unpredictable, and the underlying verification methods (ie, checksums, validation codes, etc.) were also different.
Even finding them all would take a lot of work. So it made it that much harder for a pirate to actually know they'd cracked every form of protection within the game...
Of course, DRM is DRM. By definition, the reason it messes up legitimate users, is because there's no perfect way to tell a pirate and someone who's actually paid apart reliably.
It's a technical impossibility.
Though I remember a lot of old-school games did this.
One I know of had the 'space police' come out and attack you if you left the initial solar system.
You could fight, and even kill them, but new ships would enter the fight faster than you could pick them off, and you could even run away, but it would be equally hard to get anywhere without running into more 'police'. And that's a game from 1989...
But one measure is a bit weak.
I recall reading about one game that had about a dozen measures similar to this, that all acted in different spots in the game, and some where quite unpredictable, and the underlying verification methods (ie, checksums, validation codes, etc.) were also different.
Even finding them all would take a lot of work. So it made it that much harder for a pirate to actually know they'd cracked every form of protection within the game...
Of course, DRM is DRM. By definition, the reason it messes up legitimate users, is because there's no perfect way to tell a pirate and someone who's actually paid apart reliably.
It's a technical impossibility.
Here's another idea for creative piracy protection: What if, instead of rigging the game to become impossible to play, or finish, or win, whatever; you rig it to become ridiculously easy, unchallenging and impossible to lose, by making the enemies weak and oblivious to you and permanently enable god mode or noclip, for example. I'd like to see them complain then!
