Arrogance

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When polite behaviour is rooted in social awkwardness, I don't call it politeness, I call it compensating for social awkwardness. When one is not compensating for a lack of social skills, politeness can become condescending and patronising.

With arrogance and confidence I feel it's generally one or the other. Sometimes you just know, y'know? Like, the facts are right there in front of you, or you have tons of evidence. Then you can sympathise with the person, even if they made the wrong call "You had every reason to think..." etc or "You couldn't have predicted that". But when somebody's full of themselves with no reason to be, it's without question arrogance. Tony Stark is understandable. He's got it good, we're all jealous and he knows it.

In short, confidence comes when the evidence merits it, arrogance comes when the evidence doesn't. Tony Stark can be arrogant when he thinks he's good at something without actually being so, just because he's done well in his specialities. Arrogance=Overconfidence. And it stems from some kind of success, normally.

Zhukov said:
Personally I'm kinda jealous of arrogant people.

Sure, they can be a pain to deal with, but they always strike me as being happier for their self assurance. Even the ones who are just plain full o' shit.
I agree. Last year, I wronged someone pretty badly, and I found myself wanting the arrogance of people I have known before, only to protect myself from my own sense of guilt. I could try and say "Well they're wrong." or "Pffff. They don't know me." but because of my nature it just smashed right through those defences and hit me where it hurt. But isn't that a good thing? Even so, it'd be nice to be up my ass and swivelling for once.

My, my. You do all know what I mean by that, right?
 

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Zhukov said:
Personally I'm kinda jealous of arrogant people.

Sure, they can be a pain to deal with, but they always strike me as being happier for their self assurance. Even the ones who are just plain full o' shit.
Some may be like that, but I assure you that's not the case with all of them. Many people put on a front, when in reality, they suffer from crippling social anxiety. Some people just have straight-up superiority complexes while others use an arrogant attitude to hide their sense of inferiority.

I am a pretty self-deprecating person at times, but I don't think I could ever be jealous of truly arrogant people. I think humility is underrated.
 

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IceStar100 said:
FalloutJack said:
IceStar100 said:
FalloutJack said:
I am arrogant, but I feel that I have good enough reason to be, and I'm not an asshole about it. So...yeah.
I don't know if this is a joke or not but I admit I started laughing hard when I notice your avatar is the Enclave

A little of Column A, a little of Column B. Taking the piss out of myself is generally one of my more redeaming qualities on this front.
This is why I think there should be a sarcastica font since true sarcasm is 80% tone of voice and body language.
What would sarcastic font look like, I wonder?
 

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FalloutJack said:
IceStar100 said:
FalloutJack said:
IceStar100 said:
FalloutJack said:
I am arrogant, but I feel that I have good enough reason to be, and I'm not an asshole about it. So...yeah.
I don't know if this is a joke or not but I admit I started laughing hard when I notice your avatar is the Enclave

A little of Column A, a little of Column B. Taking the piss out of myself is generally one of my more redeaming qualities on this front.
This is why I think there should be a sarcastica font since true sarcasm is 80% tone of voice and body language.
What would sarcastic font look like, I wonder?
Wingdings
 

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The whole concept of arrogance is a subjective/perceptive element of a person's character where confidence is seen to stem too far. Therefore it is hard to categorise those who are confident away from those who are arrogant, but you normally could get a general consensus or agreement on which side the person would more fall into.

It is negative in conception, so I cannot see how you could say arrogance is a plus, as, by its definition, it is used to identify confidence that goes beyond justification.
 

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Sometimes, being arrogant can be a battle strategy.
I'm a bboy (or breakdancer, according to the mainstream media) and I've been entering competitions since 2002.
You have no idea how many dance battles I've won simply by being overly confident. Mocking and taunting your opponent can lead to him messing up, which in turn leads to an easier win.

Fappy said:
I think humility is underrated.
In theory maybe, but in practice it's the opposite.

When going out with a woman, being arrogant made it a lot easier for me to get a 2nd date. Most women just don't seem to go for the quiet humble ones.
Same thing with job interviews. Make sure that your potential employer knows that you know that you're good and you'll be more likely to get the job.

If you're good at something and you know you're good at it then show it, don't hide it.
 

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HardkorSB said:
Sometimes, being arrogant can be a battle strategy.
I'm a bboy (or breakdancer, according to the mainstream media) and I've been entering competitions since 2002.
You have no idea how many dance battles I've won simply by being overly confident. Mocking and taunting your opponent can lead to him messing up, which in turn leads to an easier win.

Fappy said:
I think humility is underrated.
In theory maybe, but in practice it's the opposite.

When going out with a woman, being arrogant made it a lot easier for me to get a 2nd date. Most women just don't seem to go for the quiet humble ones.
Same thing with job interviews. Make sure that your potential employer knows that you know that you're good at what you do and you'll be more likely to get the job.

If you're good at something and you know you're good at it then show it, don't hide ito
You're absolutely right about job interviews. As for dating, well, it really just depends on the person. I was primarily saying that humility is a far more appealing personality trait than arrogance and that the people you spend most your time with will probably appreciate you a lot more (or at least, not resent you) if you're aware of and not afraid to point out your shortcomings. Confidence is something that attracts people, but too much of it will tire them out.
 

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Arrogance eh? I have something worse. Pride. And not the good kind. The stubborn variety. Often I refuse help from people. I know it's not healthy. That said, I'm looking into getting a trade apprenticeship. I have a friend that could help me out, but I won't ask. I even have relatives that could probably point in me in the right direction. Once again, I won't ask. I feel that my problems are just that, my problems. And I should find the solutions on my own.