Time travel hasn't been proven... yet. If it ever is, it would mean you can't time travel back before the first time machine (because there has to be a recieving end for time travel).
Chamale said:Sewblon said:We experience decision making every day of our lives, if that isn't evidence for freewill, what is?.Your brain lies to you every second you open your eyes. It falsely creates the impression that you don't have a blind spot in each eye, but in fact, you do. Similarly, your brain fools you into thinking that you have free will. Studies have shown that people often do something, and then later decide that they consciously wanted to do something. In fact, they performed the action before they actually decided to do it. Free will is an illusion, although as a corollary, it should be pointed out that you'd behave the same way if you somehow managed to violate the laws of physics and have free will
I tend to take the Doctor Who approach to time travel and say that certain events in history are time locked and cannot be changed, even by a time traveler, thus making Hitler's rise to power inevitable.Sewblon said:Make sure you spoiler it, here is mine.Edit: Swollen Goat said I needed to edit my post, so I edited it.If time travel were possible someone would have stopped Hitler from coming to power. Also, time travel results in contradictions. If someone goes back in time to stop Hitler from rising to power, the time traveler would never have heard of Hitler so he would have never gone back in time to stop him from rising to power. So then Hitler would rise to power so the time traveler would go back in time to stop him. So Hitler both would and would not rise to power, and the time traveler both would and would not have prevented him from coming to power, which is absurd.
I think I would make sure autotuning never existed before I even thought about offing Hitler.Pirate Kitty said:Or everyone in the future likes Hitler. That is a terrible argument against time-travel.Sewblon said:Make sure you spoiler it, here is mine.Edit: Swollen Goat said I needed to edit my post, so I edited it.If time travel were possible someone would have stopped Hitler from coming to power.
Dango said:Ahlycks said:OT:
English is a stupid language. No second person plurals? What were they thinking?I am trying to learn ancient Greek right now, so tell me about it!( I don't mean "tell me about it" literally, I mean it as in "I wholeheartedly agree and sympathize.") I mean they had them back when Socrates was around, how did western civilization just plain forget something so important?
Dango said:... Yet another reason to keep you away from that girl!Ahlycks said:I have a 92 foot long shlong
Oh this is not about you? "whoops"
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English is a stupid language. No second person plurals? What were they thinking?
loc978 said:To those who have discussed the assassination of Hitler (thereby validating Godwin's law):
Your views on time travel are not the only ones out there. If you examine your own views on time travel, you'll find they're intrinsically linked to your views on fate.
Chamale said:Sewblon said:adakias said:Sewblon said:Make sure you spoiler it, here is mine.Edit: Swollen Goat said I needed to edit my post, so I edited it.If time travel were possible someone would have stopped Hitler from coming to power.Hitler's rise to power may have been ensured by a time-travelling Nazi.A time traveling Nazi would have installed a leader who would have lead Germany to victory in World War 2. Besides time travel results in contradictions. If someone goes back in time to stop Hitler from rising to power, the time traveler would never have heard of Hitler so he would have never gone back in time to stop him from rising to power. So then Hitler would rise to power so the time traveler would go back in time to stop him. So Hitler both would and would not rise to power, and the time traveler both would and would not have prevented him from coming to power, which is absurd.Another one:
There's no evidence that free will exists. It's an illusion, because everything in the Universe is bound by the laws of physics - even chemistry in your own brain.
I think I better let you answer that one.Dango said:But then what about highways?seekeroftruth86 said:You park on a driveway and drive on a parkway.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-Phlakes said:Everyone you know is a Freemason.
The Freemasons are controlled by the Illuminati.
You just lost the game.
This realization changed my life for the worst. Logically, we do not have free will. A twist worthy of Shyamalan!Chamale said:There's no evidence that free will exists. It's an illusion, because everything in the Universe is bound by the laws of physics - even chemistry in your own brain.